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Post Match - Birmingham 2-2...Let it begin...

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2-2 Disappointing not to take all three points, but an exciting game with an cracking atmosphere. Some positives but too many negatives Nugent for me at the moment looks out of place in this squad, Wood didn't have enough shots on target or at all, we didn't close them down enough allowed them too much possession.

Also off the field did anyone notice the trouble in the bar in Burnmoor Street, smoke coming out of the pub? any news on that.

I hate to be pedantic but he had a shot on target...
Posted

Errrrrr...ich don't think so.

You basically took good corners, and well done on that. The only other chance was when Paul Robinson tried a kamikaze header back to Butland and your man nipped in. But apart from that we restricted you to long range shooting which were dragged wide of the post.

Very comfortable I was with Leicester's rare attacking excursions, so comfortable I watched the game in the bath.

I genuinely must've been watching a different game. Even your acne infested manager thought you were world beaters tonight. Along with your deluded fans singing their hearts out enjoying their away DRAW. I'd be buzzing to be fair if I knew I would be sitting on that fvcking awful spaghetti junction hours after, mind.

Posted

Did you watch the game? Did you not see Schlupp through on goal? King run onto his own header and have a 1-on-1? Nugent miss a clear cut chance?

Oh there were a couple of half chances yes. When you unparked the bus and hit us on the counter. The big BOOF down the pitch to Schlupp for the one on one, but the ball was never going to sit down for him so I was comfortable.

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I'll take a go at that.

NFP has created a team that no longer has a viable gameplan, skill, flair and any kind of proper, attacking football has been ruthlessly expunged from the side so that all that is left is hard work and effort.

Nugent was required, by the very ethos that NFP has created, to show willing and effort and chase back to the edge of our area even though there was (originally) no threat to our goal.

He made an ill judged 'center forward's tackle' on the edge of our box, no excuses but the reason he was in that position is firmly down to the manager.

....Sad to see you write this as your assessments are normally founded in something even if I don't agree with them.

I'm a Dave Nugent fan but he practically dribbled the ball from the half way line into a danger area before giving away the penalty. Ridiculous comment.

Posted

Oh there were a couple of half chances yes. When you unparked the bus and hit us on the counter. The big BOOF down the pitch to Schlupp for the one on one, but the ball was never going to sit down for him so I was comfortable.

Didn't realise one-on-ones were half chances :blush:
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I genuinely must've been watching a different game. Even your acne infested manager thought you were world beaters tonight. Along with your deluded fans singing their hearts out enjoying their away DRAW. I'd be buzzing to be fair if I knew I would be sitting on that fvcking awful spaghetti junction hours after, mind.

Hey, i'm disappointed with the result. On paper, of course, we're a better team than Leicester and you'd be hard pressed to find a Leicester player in a Blues/Leicester hybrid team. And the way we dominated the possession, had Leicester camped on the edge of their box so they resorted to hoofing counter attacks and relying on the pace of Schupp and then Dyer.

But the beautiful tiki taka of Birmingham was summarised in our first goal. The only legitimate goal in the game.

Had we been able to defend corners, we'd be looking at a comfortable 0-2 victory tonight and i'm sure the most ardent of Leicestershire supporters wouldn't have begrudged us that.

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I genuinely must've been watching a different game. Even your acne infested manager thought you were world beaters tonight. Along with your deluded fans singing their hearts out enjoying their away DRAW. I'd be buzzing to be fair if I knew I would be sitting on that fvcking awful spaghetti junction hours after, mind.

Bit harsh!

Posted

Schlupp is a natural striker AND he scored, you absolute disabled.

He scored a simple header but apart from that he was absolutely wank. He misses numerous chances. Created nothing. Constantly gave the ball away.

He scored one, a good striker would have scored a hat trick.

I know he's a product if our academy and we're supposed to like him and everything but the guy is not a good footballer. You can jeep deluding yourself that he is all you want, but at the end of the day playing him up front on his own with real strikers playing on the wings is a ****ing tactical abomination and proof that our manager has completely lost the plot.

Birmingham were woeful, we were no better. Shameful. We wouldn't look out if place in mid table league one and that's exactly where we're headed if we don't make some serious changes.

Deny it all you like. Thirteen games representing what is one if, if not the worst run of form in the entire history of the football club is all any sane person needs to know about how good our manager and players are.

Posted

How is what he did the managers fault. He had a rush of blood and messed up. You are a sensible poster and one I take the time to read but you can at no point blame Pearson for what Nugent did tonight. We may as well blame NP for Schlupp hitting the bar as he put him in the team and where he made him play meant he was going to be in that position. It is alright to be down about the result but it still doesn't make it NP's fault. If Nugent had just twatted the ball in to the stand rather than trying to be clever then there would not even be a debate now. He was near the centre circle when he first touched the ball.

He's pointed out why a manager can affect a player's actions in a situation like that. But the wider point is that the result wasn't defined by a single moment, even if it was a vital one, and Pearson still has to take responsibility for the result.

Why don't you come back with proof that HE(me) is an apologist for NP. You said it. Prove it. If not shut the **** up and think before you type...

There's that line again! Well, you are sort of being an apologist for him tonight. And you've already told us that you've not been in the past. So what's to be proven? Calm down people...

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This is torture, every time your hopes build up a little they are stuck right up your arse in the last few minutes.

I need to stop going to matches I'm turning into a nervous wreck, I'll be rocking back and forth in my seat before too long.

Guest Basildon Fox
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He's pointed out why a manager can affect a player's actions in a situation like that. But the wider point is that the result wasn't defined by a single moment, even if it was a vital one, and Pearson still has to take responsibility for the result.

There's that line again! Well, you are sort of being an apologist for him tonight. And you've already told us that you've not been in the past. So what's to be proven? Calm down people...

Do you honestly believe that playing him out wide made him act like a twat in the last minute? To be proven is that I am an NP apologist as he said. Prove it.

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I can't be bothered to read through 16 pages of opinion but having just read the last few posts it comes as no surprise to me that Nugent is getting a fair amount of stick for costing us dearly at the end.

I would just like to point out that the game was well and truly out of our control during the first 15 minutes of the second half. As it has been with us on many occasions this season we just cannot finish teams off when we have a hatful of chances. We should have been 2 up at half time at least. We lack that ruthless streak, a killer instinct, a desire to finish teams off quickly and efficiently. Instead, and particularly since the turn of the year, we huff and we puff, there's very little quality, just hard work and a limitation to the way in which we play, which has ultimately led to our demise this season and for that I hold Pearson responsible.

15 minutes in this second half tonight Pearson allowed Birmingham to take control of the game. Tactically he did nothing to change this course of play. He stood on his line and watched events unfold and did nothing to effect the game. Instead, he makes a customary reactional tactical switch once the opposition equalised. Control of the game is handed to the opposition up until this point. From then on, he gets lucky that Schlupp eventually finds the net after 5 decent chances throughout the game but then again he does nothing to tactically outplay the opposition and we are left with strikers running 30 yards towards our goal line for which ultimately the incident which cost us the game and the playoffs. (Although tbf the playoffs were a long shot before the game began imo).

We have the players. We have the quality in the squad. It's a pity we don't have the tactical nouse to take advantage of what we have. This is what is costing us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is blinkered to it.

Posted

....Sad to see you write this as your assessments are normally founded in something even if I don't agree with them.

I'm a Dave Nugent fan but he practically dribbled the ball from the half way line into a danger area before giving away the penalty. Ridiculous comment.

I agree he got it horribly wrong but it does seem to me that there is far too much pressure on our forward players to do their share (and more) defensively. As I have said elsewhere, we seem to have made a habit of turning good attacking players into poor defensive ones.

Posted

Do you honestly believe that playing him out wide made him act like a twat in the last minute? To be proven is that I am an NP apologist as he said. Prove it.

Well, I'm not trying to prove it and clearly it doesn't need to be proven. Tonight you are an NP apologist and in the past you haven't been. Nothing to get emotional about. I've often been labelled an NP apologist but tonight I'm a critic, so what? I won't start weeping or driving disentangled paper clips into the cat's eyes about it.

No I don't think playing him out wide caused that to happen. I think playing him caused it. And I think not raging him for having done a similar thing in the first half caused it. And I think him not substituting Nugent caused it. Nugent is to blame for his actions, but the manager always takes some credit for blinding thirty yard winner, just as he must take some responsibility for errors like that. And whether he was or wasn't partly responsible for the goal we conceded, it was one of a series of incidents which decided a result for which NP must take responsibility.

Posted

Did anyone see the trouble on burnmoor street after the final whistle?

Did some massive guy the size of the Big Show, have another fight again?

Posted

Sigh, another two points dropped on paper and our fortune comes round full circle after Davies' own goal but then the familiar feel of negativity again with the injury time pen. against us, resulting from the last moment of madness from Nugent at the end. It's clearly just the way things are going for us now and I'd be amazed now if we finished any higher than 7th, as nice as though that would be..

The fact that I haven't been able to afford to subscribe to Sky 1+2 this season (to make up for my not being able to get up to many games over a season) is perhaps a miniscule crumb of comfort now, being that we've not won any games that we've featured in of late on there! All we can hope for now is that the top six continue to stutter along but how long will this go on for? We keep getting away with it thanks to all the teams' above us indifferent form while continuing to drop unlikely points ourselves too. Ironically our raising our game and winning against Bolton, Palace, Watford and Forest would certainly shake the play off frame up and then some - but after tonight I can't see us winning any of those four remaining games, perhaps a couple of draws at best...... :(

Guest Basildon Fox
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Well, I'm not trying to prove it and clearly it doesn't need to be proven. Tonight you are an NP apologist and in the past you haven't been. Nothing to get emotional about. I've often been labelled an NP apologist but tonight I'm a critic, so what? I won't start weeping or driving disentangled paper clips into the cat's eyes about it.

No I don't think playing him out wide caused that to happen. I think playing him caused it. And I think not raging him for having done a similar thing in the first half caused it. And I think him not substituting Nugent caused it. Nugent is to blame for his actions, but the manager always takes some credit for blinding thirty yard winner, just as he must take some responsibility for errors like that. And whether he was or wasn't partly responsible for the goal we conceded, it was one of a series of incidents which decided a result for which NP must take responsibility.

I understand that the buck stops with the manager results wise but to blame him ultimately for 5 seconds of madness from Nugent is quite clearly ridiculous.
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Do you honestly believe that playing him out wide made him act like a twat in the last minute? To be proven is that I am an NP apologist as he said. Prove it.

No. What made him fook up is the way we play. NFP has created an ethos where hard work and effort are more highly regarded than anything else. Having had a poor first touch Nugent was required to put in the effort and redeem himself, it's what is required.

On this occasion everything he did simply made things worse, horrible play by Nugent on this occasion but it is the way he is required to play. would have done much better, if after his poor first touch, he had simply left it to our defence to tidy up.

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