GingerrrFox Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 we only have 2 CB's 3 iff you count Moore but I'm sure bert or someone else said he saw himself/the club saw him as a right back so Taft has a big chance this season with FFP coming in given Whitbread's injury record Plus Whitbread is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 Taft has some way to go if he's going to play regularly at Championship level. I watched him a lot when he was loaned to Kettering season before last and though he was better than most he wasn't outstanding. Needs a season playing in League 1 before he's a realistic option IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 No suprise there. Wellens would be made into a coach for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatness_Since_1884 Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 we only have 2 CB's 3 iff you count Moore but I'm sure bert or someone else said he saw himself/the club saw him as a right back so Taft has a big chance this season with FFP coming in given Whitbread's injury record St Ledger as well or the replacement we'll get when we get rid of him. I was also gonna say that Taft's played for England youths at LB as well but these days that's nothing to brag about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 St Ledger as well or the replacement we'll get when we get rid of him. I was also gonna say that Taft's played for England youths as well but these days that's nothing to brag about I don't think SSL will be here and unless we shift that list of 7 I'm not sure how many new faces we will see, still I'd like 4 cb's at the club if we're playing 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 bet that still turns quicker than wellens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatness_Since_1884 Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 I don't think SSL will be here and unless we shift that list of 7 I'm not sure how many new faces we will see, still I'd like 4 cb's at the club if we're playing 4-4-2 If Toffee Fox was right and we are currently just within the FFP guidelines, then I'd assume that we're going to add players based on the ones that leave i.e. if SSL leaves we replace him with a CB, Danns with a CM etc. The wages we'd shed from SSL would pay for a decent replacement plus cash to spare. Having said that I have a feeling that this squad will be the one we go into the Middlesbrough game with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 I'd missed that Toffee Fox post tbh, if that's the case then great, still leaves Taft and Cain (plus others) with a big chance to break through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 13 July 2013 Share Posted 13 July 2013 bet that still turns quicker than wellens! Scania Irizar, I doubt it. Favourite model though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorlcfc Posted 14 July 2013 Share Posted 14 July 2013 caine is a very good player seen him in the academy many times was n amazing last season did very well , great composure and good eye for goal and his vision is outstanding , wanted him and blyth to be in the squad last season but hopefully tey'll break through this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 Apparently he's done his ACL vs Corby? Bad news if so although Nige hasn't shown any signs he thinks he's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 Apparently he's done his ACL vs Corby? Bad news if so although Nige hasn't shown any signs he thinks he's ready.They know he is. The stakes were too high last season at the time he would've been involved. Devastating blow for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 he may still have a chance at this season but definitely for next pre season, the speed at which people are coming back from these injuries is decreasing rapidly just look at Robert Griffin III and Adrian Peterson in the NFL. Terrible blow for him and maybe for us too given the FFP situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callabinho Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 Personally I've not been that impressed, he does the simple stuff well but he certainly hasn't got enough in his locker to give us that special something we so desperately crave, I've left every youth game I've seen scratching my head wondering what all the fuss was about..... I have only seen him once anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 Apparently it's his MCL rather than his ACL which is good news. Anterior cruciate ligament injuries are generally much harder and time consuming to recover from than any other type of knee injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Cash Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 he may still have a chance at this season but definitely for next pre season, the speed at which people are coming back from these injuries is decreasing rapidly just look at Robert Griffin III and Adrian Peterson in the NFL. Terrible blow for him and maybe for us too given the FFP situation RG3 could run now but they're saving him. Cain can be back for Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 RG3 could run now but they're saving him. Cain can be back for Jan. he's been cleared but won't play in pre season games, what is it 7 months since he got injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 I've left every youth game I've seen scratching my head wondering what all the fuss was about..... I have only seen him once anyway. Perhaps he just had a bad game Either way, hope the lad recovers quickly, I'm certain that had Danns or Drinkwater been offloaded then Cain would have been more involved with the first team this pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC FOX Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 McCourt looks alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheFox07 Posted 29 July 2013 Share Posted 29 July 2013 what was his injury?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 30 July 2013 Share Posted 30 July 2013 what was his injury?? ACL stands for anterior cruciate ligament and MCL is medial collateral ligament. It's one of the worst sports injuries, as it takes months to heal. It's a shame. I've heard a lot of good things about him, and he must be one of the youngsters closest to getting in the first team. Hope he has a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKD Posted 30 July 2013 Share Posted 30 July 2013 I'm sorry but how can we expect a manager to throw a young player in when we as fans are so unforgiving. Remember when max gradel got the go ahead the amount of fans on here who were oh he can't cross a ball. He was a kid under 20 with bags of potential. Young players are not the finished article and need time to improve on the skills they have and work on the skills they lack. This can only be achieved by game time and exposure to first team football and patience. They can't be greeted by oohs and ahhs by unforgiving fans every time they misplace a pass or choose a wrong option. I truly believe less young players will be given a chance at this level due to the pressure environment created around stadiums in this league. Remember the fledglings at united were not all superstars when they broke through and needed time to adapt. Is Cain/Taft/hopper etc good enough? Ofcourse not. Can they be? Maybe if given time, guidance and support. Unfortunately I doubt they ever will be here. Our last youth team had a number of players released who are now slowly working there ways up the leagues. As they have found less hostile playing environments to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheFox07 Posted 30 July 2013 Share Posted 30 July 2013 ACL stands for anterior cruciate ligament and MCL is medial collateral ligament. It's one of the worst sports injuries, as it takes months to heal. It's a shame. I've heard a lot of good things about him, and he must be one of the youngsters closest to getting in the first team. Hope he has a speedy recovery. I only asked what his injury was, didn't need an explination into ACL, I already know what that is! just to lazy to go back and look for injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 30 July 2013 Share Posted 30 July 2013 I'm sorry but how can we expect a manager to throw a young player in when we as fans are so unforgiving. Remember when max gradel got the go ahead the amount of fans on here who were oh he can't cross a ball. He was a kid under 20 with bags of potential. Young players are not the finished article and need time to improve on the skills they have and work on the skills they lack. This can only be achieved by game time and exposure to first team football and patience. They can't be greeted by oohs and ahhs by unforgiving fans every time they misplace a pass or choose a wrong option. I truly believe less young players will be given a chance at this level due to the pressure environment created around stadiums in this league. Remember the fledglings at united were not all superstars when they broke through and needed time to adapt. Is Cain/Taft/hopper etc good enough? Ofcourse not. Can they be? Maybe if given time, guidance and support. Unfortunately I doubt they ever will be here. Our last youth team had a number of players released who are now slowly working there ways up the leagues. As they have found less hostile playing environments to improve. I'm sorry but although I understand the point you're trying to make, it's a kop out for managers not to blood youngsters because of this reason. They have to be given a chance at some point and they often are at some clubs. Some would say the reason for Gradel's transformation from talented but raw youngster in to one of the best championship players within 2 seasons was because we gave him chances to make mistakes and learn and then he developed and got better, sadly for Leeds and not for us. How do they do that if they aren't given a chance? Loaning them out, fair enough but sometimes they are capable of developing at their parent club and do a good job whilst they learn. Pearson much prefers to borrow other clubs youngsters than put immediate faith in his own, perhaps that's because United and other Prem clubs youngsters are better but it's a bit shortsighted and he has made mistakes in the past with our academy prospects, Gradel and Schlupp being two of them. We've some serious talent in Cain, Dodoo, Panayiouto and a few others, I hope they get the recognition and their potential doesn't go to waste. If anyone wants to see Cain in action, the final of the Hong Kong tournament that we won vs Newcastle he was superb. I know it was a development squad, but their's contained Sammy Ameobi, Shane Ferguson and that Slovenian midfielder whose mustard but his name escapes me. See below. http://www.nufcblog.org/2013/05/newcastle-united-v-leicester-city-hong-kong-soccer-sevens-final-video/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 30 July 2013 Share Posted 30 July 2013 I went and watched the youth team a few months ago and none of them stood as players I would want near the first team yet. Hope I'm proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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