Time for a formation/ tactics change?

[FoxesBoyChris]

Anyone agree that Leicester should try a formation change while FFP changes wreak havock?

Watford were very successful with a 3-5-2 last year and Swansea have became a great team with a change to a more possession keeping style.

I think Pearson should use a 3-5-2 and work to adapt his team to this. We could utilise the wide players by playing RDL and Schlupp/Dyer on the wings. Knockaert could also play as a more central player with King and James CDM's.

Kasper

Moore - Morgan - Konch

RDL - James - King - Schlupp

Knockaert

Nugent - Wood

[lgfualol]

As long as they stop hoofing to their players then I'm open to any changes. 

[Fox92]

In 352 though you have to be very good at keeping the ball, and good at winning it back. Even NP said we gave it away to much against Leamington wile playing 352. Players like Knockaert lose it to easy for me, which would have to stop.

[l444ry]

Dream on! Speculate as much as you like but Nigel Pearson is stuck in his boring, old fashioned, out of date 4-4-2. Granted ,he has flirted with 3-5-2 and versions of 4-3-3/4-5-1. But at the end of the day his tried and tested plan B, when he thinks things need changing, is simply belt the bloody ball longer. 

[XLM]

Get the feeling Nigel would have learnt his lesson from playing such an ancient formation. One can only hope he has in fact - Although I reckon the likelihood is that

he might decide to give Knockaert a roaming attacking midfield position rather than keep him in one place. I seriously hope he decides to put Jeff up front as opposed to LB - reckon he could get a few goals this season. 

[theessexfox]

Dream on! Speculate as much as you like but Nigel Pearson is stuck in his boring, old fashioned, out of date 4-4-2. Granted ,he has flirted with 3-5-2 and versions of 4-3-3/4-5-1. But at the end of the day his tried and tested plan B, when he thinks things need changing, is simply belt the bloody ball longer. 

Contradiction of the year? 

[FoxesBoyChris]

Knockaert can will lose the ball because that's the sort of player he is. As long as he is up the other end then that kind of risk is fine. We just need the two CDM's to be chasing the ball down more often, I vote loan Chalobah as he was excellent for Watford.

[Mack]

If you want a permanent change of system you'll need a change of Manager.

[l444ry]

Contradiction of the year? 

 

 

Try to understand the post without being silly mate.

[Wymsey]

We should try to use the 3-5-2 formation away from home more often.

[Guest Col city fan]

My concern of going to a 3-5-2 is actually Pearson.

IF he tries it and it doesn't work for a few weeks, I think he'll revert back to type and go 4-4-2.

I just don't think Pearson has the courage to make the change and stick with it, over a longer term period.

In the same way that Pearson only appears to like a certain type of player, I think it's the same with his football tactics. Basically, I don't think he's mentally flexible enough to stray too far from his tried and trusted. For success this season, I would suggest, we have to hope his tried and trusted works.

[Saxondale]

[Narborough_fox]

"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who who barely know how to win at dominoes." - Brian Clough. 

[cc_star]

Formations & tactics are overrated

Pearson played quite a few last season, under 442 we played some of the best football I've ever seen us play. We then changed to 433 in an effort to reverse our form, 451 too, we played 4411 to great effect Vs Watford in home leg too.

Pearson tactically knows his stuff... Helping players handle pressure etc... Obviously a development area for him IMO

Anyone who bleats on about formations & tactics as a primary way to win games knows **** all about managing & even less about actual real football away from fake world of Football Manager & boring people to death in a pub

It's about effort, motivation, tempo, player ability & confidence first & foremost.

Without hardwork you get **** all, modern game is about tempo too, which we had in buckets in 442 on our rise to the top of the table.

442 is soooo baaaad Brazil ripped Spain a new one playing it.

NP is obviously having a look at 352 & we've played 4411, 433, 451 & of course 442 last season.

I'm sure we'll play what will serve us best, but I'm far more interested in player's effort, passing tempo & other stuff than formation alone

[Harry - LCFC]

"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who who barely know how to win at dominoes." - Brian Clough. 

 

Dead right.

 

Players, players, players. The indomitable number one when it comes to the question of the biggest factor affecting the outcome of a match. Other things have an influence but there's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the people who kick the ball around the pitch outweigh everything else. We can get promoted with 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 this season, we can't if we don't have the right players.

[FoxesBoyChris]

I don't disagree that players are the most important part of a winning team and that their effort and mentality is vital also.

I just suggested that we try something new as Swansea and Watford did in a way to cause a shake up in the league. I find 4-4-2 a boring system that, in some but not all cases, often sees us playing 4-4-0-0-0-2 at times as the space between the midfielders and strikers is far too big. This often results in what people call "Hoofing" it up the field because to put it simply, out players get too tired chasing 70yards up and down the pitch to try and do two job (King and James mainly).

A 3-5-2 allows players to have a deep CDM (or 2) and an attacker that holds in the space that is often found between the midfield and the strikers.

PS: Sorry for the large post

[foxfanazer]

In 352 though you have to be very good at keeping the ball, and good at winning it back. Even NP said we gave it away to much against Leamington wile playing 352. Players like Knockaert lose it to easy for me, which would have to stop.

very true

[foxfanazer]

I can see Nige adopting the Spanish/Barca formation of playing 4-2-4 with no designated striker

King = Xavi

Knocky = Messi

James = Iniesta

[l444ry]

"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who who barely know how to win at dominoes." - Brian Clough. 

 

Mind you, Forest didn't have better players than a lot of the sides they beat to win two European Cups. Cloughie always seemed at his best when taking the p*** out of people with this sort of coded language!

[Fox92]

Knockaert can will lose the ball because that's the sort of player he is. As long as he is up the other end then that kind of risk is fine. We just need the two CDM's to be chasing the ball down more often, I vote loan Chalobah as he was excellent for Watford.

 

He scored against us, but was he 'excellent'? Half of the Watford fans don't seem to rate him that much.

[Dan]

My concern of going to a 3-5-2 is actually Pearson.

IF he tries it and it doesn't work for a few weeks, I think he'll revert back to type and go 4-4-2.

I just don't think Pearson has the courage to make the change and stick with it, over a longer term period.

In the same way that Pearson only appears to like a certain type of player, I think it's the same with his football tactics. Basically, I don't think he's mentally flexible enough to stray too far from his tried and trusted. For success this season, I would suggest, we have to hope his tried and trusted works.

 

This is a fair post and it's my biggest criticism of the bloke to be honest. Think he's far too glued to 4-4-2 and it's simply wasteful.

[RowZ]

Anyone agree that Leicester should try a formation change while FFP changes wreak havock?

Watford were very successful with a 3-5-2 last year and Swansea have became a great team with a change to a more possession keeping style.

I think Pearson should use a 3-5-2 and work to adapt his team to this. We could utilise the wide players by playing RDL and Schlupp/Dyer on the wings. Knockaert could also play as a more central player with King and James CDM's.

Kasper

Moore - Morgan - Konch

RDL - James - King - Schlupp

Knockaert

Nugent - Wood

Why change things?

Worked brilliantly last season with the the same players - more of the same exciting hoo4-hoo4-2 please 

Vardy was unlucky last season - will get his 20+ this time and the youngsters are now 'experienced enough' to win promotion  in the toughest championship yet 

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Dream on! Speculate as much as you like but Nigel Pearson is stuck in his boring, old fashioned, out of date 4-4-2. Granted ,he has flirted with 3-5-2 and versions of 4-3-3/4-5-1. But at the end of the day his tried and tested plan B, when he thinks things need changing, is simply belt the bloody ball longer. 

This. The only formation Pearson knows.

[beryllind]

My concern of going to a 3-5-2 is actually Pearson.

IF he tries it and it doesn't work for a few weeks, I think he'll revert back to type and go 4-4-2.

I just don't think Pearson has the courage to make the change and stick with it, over a longer term period.

In the same way that Pearson only appears to like a certain type of player, I think it's the same with his football tactics. Basically, I don't think he's mentally flexible enough to stray too far from his tried and trusted. For success this season, I would suggest, we have to hope his tried and trusted works.

 

 

Absolutely right,  sat in is seat today in the dug out closed my eyes and saw the same 4-4-2 as always, boring.

[Stadt]

People saying tactics aren't important is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard on Foxestalk ever.