foxfanazer Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 He isn't the best goalkeeper in the division.Who do u think is out of interest?
Fox92 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Then I guess the PFA team of the year is bobbins? Well, Jordan Rhodes didn't get in it having scored 27 goals. Says it all.
Ric Flair Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Well, Jordan Rhodes didn't get in it. Says it all. Perhaps because there were 2 strikers that performed better than him last season? There wasn't a keeper that performed better than Kasper last season. Look at clean sheets, goals conceded colelctively and penalty saves etc and he's top boy. Having said that, i'd have sold him without question this summer.
Fox92 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 I thought Marshall saved Cardiff more times than Kasper saved us.
Ric Flair Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 I thought Marshall saved Cardiff more times than Kasper saved us. I can only speak on behalf of what I watched and I obviously saw Kasper more times than any other keeper but Schmeichel was a man mountain at times last season. He then got the hype from the media and it's easy to see why he's classed as the divisions best. Happens all the time.
Babylon Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 We've got worse, not better! How exactly are we worse?
Guest MattP Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 I actually can't believe what he has said here. "Right now we are into pre-season and this isn't the time to start talking about that," Believe me as a club in our financial situation their isn't a better or more important time to be talking about this. That's what clubs do when players have a year left on a contract.
Shauno45 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Surely signing a new contract will help you concentrate and settle on the full season ahead and avoid unnecessary media spotlight. Balls in his court and he, like most of today's footballers, its just a game of who can make the most money in there short careers. The table can change alot from Christmas onwards but i feel if we dont make a good start, Kasper and Morgan will be eyeing up January moves and the club wont be too keen on buying good replacements if anything making temporary loan signings imo. Lets just hope it doesn't come to that. Big season!
Guest Col city fan Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 It's a gamble. Nothing more, nothing less. Do we keep the best keeper in the division and go for promotion? Or do we cash in when we have the chance? Personally, if Hobbs was a part of the deal, I'd have sold Kasper. The problem with keeping Kasper, with a view to being a good side, capable of challenging, is that we aren't IMO. The players around him, by and large, aren't good enough. Given this, I'd have sold, got in another solid keeper and solved the centre back problem. I have no idea what is going on currently at City. Some of the decisions made since the Thais took over have been confusing.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Agree we should have sold Kasper for a few mil plus Hobbs, but struggle to see why posters are writing us off before pre-season is even over.
Bayfox Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Not the most encouraging article I've ever read. I think if it comes to January and he hasn't signed one then I'd consider selling. If it comes to Jan and we aren't challenging then I think he will be signing a pre-contract somewhere else, so I don''t think we will be selling him. We have gone shit or bust on getting up with him.
Ric Flair Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 How exactly are we worse? Our form from February onwards suggests we've got worse, it was alarming. We've lost a central defender who played every game for us albeit during that poor run. We've not strengthened our squad, except for a back up left back. Every team in the league has made efforts to strengthen, now that doesn't guarantee success but it puts us in a vulnerable position. Taking everything in to equation it would be fair to predict we'll find it harder to get top 6 than last season. We've missed the boat. Please take in to consideration you think St Ledger is an absolute shit house and Whitbread has struggled massively at Leicester, you cannot think we look in good nick at the back going in to the new season?
LCFC1991 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 This squad finished 6th last season, so they themselves should expect a minimum of 6th again or higher. I don't think that we are necessarily weaker for not adding to the squad. Obviously everyone wants to sign new players each season but look where that's got us in the last few season where the expectations have been promotion with a high turnover of players. As this pre season has been quiet and our expectations are lower, I think we could surprise ourselves and end up 5th or 4th. And for people to say we have got worse before we've even kicked a ball this new season is beyond me. Keeping kasper could turn out to be one of the best things we have done this pre season, if we end up having a successful season. If not, he leaves on a free but it's surely worth the gamble? Gain one or two million now or potentially 100 or whatever it is now for getting promoted. I know what I would choose.
Babylon Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Our form from February onwards suggests we've got worse, it was alarming. We've lost a central defender who played every game for us albeit during that poor run. We've not strengthened our squad, except for a back up left back. Every team in the league has made efforts to strengthen, now that doesn't guarantee success but it puts us in a vulnerable position. Taking everything in to equation it would be fair to predict we'll find it harder to get top 6 than last season. We've missed the boat. Please take in to consideration you think St Ledger is an absolute shit house and Whitbread has struggled massively at Leicester, you cannot think we look in good nick at the back going in to the new season? Yes form got worse, but I don't believe you were really thinking of that when you wrote it. Anyway, form picked up a bit towards the end. I think St Ledger is average, similarly Whitbread... Keane may have had lots of potential but he also was just average really, we conceded at around the same rate for most of the season if not slightly more with him. Player wise we are about where we were last year, in fact slightly stronger is we are thinking of keeping Danns. Others may have strengthened, but whether we are weaker this year remains to be seen. It won't be from us going backwards though in what we have available, just that others have improved.
LCFC FOX Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Lets just hope we are in the top 6 in January. Then Kasper, Wes and Nugent will sign new contracts
Guest MattP Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Lets just hope we are in the top 6 in January. Then Kasper, Wes and Nugent will sign new contracts Why on earth would they do that? Surely they would either sign a pre contract with a PL club for huge money or wait until the end of the season?
Monsell1976 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 We need promotion to keep him, but would we want him in the premiership, solid championship keeper, great shot stopper but has he got the all round game to be a premier league keeper yet, the jury is out for me, he is still young for a keeper with lots to learn, but it looks as though we will lose him at the end of the season for nothing.
kingfox Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Ric is right in a lot of cases though. If we cashed in on Kasper it would of freed us up to buy players, buy the centre back we desperately need, buy maybe another midfielder, a winger, another goalkeeper to replace Kasper. Yes it would be sad to see Kasper leave, but he is replaceable, there's good enough goalkeepers in this league and League 1 to replace him. And like he said, next season him and Morgan could easily walk away for free, we are just gambling again, if we don't go up they won't sign a new contract and both will leave, I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan heads back to Forest, even if they are still in the Championship. I don't think the squad is good enough either, if we don't get in some quality in defence, we will have to rely on Whitbread for most of the season, a player who is capable of mistakes and is injury prone, St Ledger is like marmite, if we do keep him, we know he will have his good games, but he will also have bad games, then we might have to rely on Liam Moore as well, would fans actually want a young inexperienced player at centre back for most of the season, I certainly wouldn't, you could say Keane was inexperienced, but in terms of quality he is better than Moore. I rate Liam don't get me wrong, but I don't think he is capable yet, playing week in week out, opposition would target him as a weakness. The midfield will be exactly the same again, as will be the strikers. Fans have complained about these two positions before, we will more than likely let has-beens in Danns & Drinkwater back in the side. Two players who are nowhere near good enough to play regularly. While we have Nugent and Wood up front, what if they dip in form again like last season, then will more than likely be fooked for goals. Schlupp, Waghorn and Vardy as back up, was depressing last season, it could be just as depressing this season. Schlupp will do well, sometimes he won't, Waghorn and Vardy who knows but a lot of fans won't be confident if we have to start one of them this season. Pearson is just stubborn, I like him, but it's the stubborn aspect of his management that pisses me off. He always says he is happy with the squad, happy with how their fitness is and how they are bonding, don't expect anymore signings. With the squad the way it is at the minute, I'm not expecting a top six finish, this is a mid-table side at best at the minute, if we don't add to defence & if Nugent and Wood dip in form, we will be fooked, if those two major components don't come to the fore, we can kiss any chance of finishing in the play-offs goodbye.
Babylon Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 The midfield will be exactly the same again, as will be the strikers. Fans have complained about these two positions before, we will more than likely let has-beens in Danns & Drinkwater back in the side. Two players who are nowhere near good enough to play regularly They might not have to, we have King and James in front of them. While we have Nugent and Wood up front, what if they dip in form again like last season, then will more than likely be fooked for goals. How many teams have players that scored what those two did last year? Not many, and certainly there aren;t many that have three players like that, which is what people seem to expect half the time. Schlupp, Waghorn and Vardy as back up, was depressing last season, it could be just as depressing this season. Schlupp will do well, sometimes he won't, Waghorn and Vardy who knows but a lot of fans won't be confident if we have to start one of them this season. Pearson is just stubborn, I like him, but it's the stubborn aspect of his management that pisses me off. He always says he is happy with the squad, happy with how their fitness is and how they are bonding, don't expect anymore signings. With the squad the way it is at the minute, I'm not expecting a top six finish, this is a mid-table side at best at the minute, if we don't add to defence & if Nugent and Wood dip in form, we will be fooked, if those two major components don't come to the fore, we can kiss any chance of finishing in the play-offs goodbye. So the manager is stubborn for not buying players even though we all know exactly the reasons why.
Babylon Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Why on earth would they do that? Surely they would either sign a pre contract with a PL club for huge money or wait until the end of the season? Only Kasper would get a premier contract I think, the others would only be of interest to those in this league who have parachute money.
kingfox Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Put it this way Babs. Would you be confident with Whitbread and Moore in defence this season? What happens if Wood and Nugent's form dips again, where do our goals come from? Our defence could ship a lot of goals, with those two playing week in week out. Like last season, Nugent and Wood went off form, and that was part of our downward spiral which nearly cost us a play-off place, if that happens again, we won't score many. I know we can't go out and buy players willy nilly, but if we did sell Kasper we would of been able to. Even right now, free agents and loans are surely available. Says on the back of Mercury today, don't expect many more ins or outs, and he said himself the defence can do with improvements. There's a whole host of players we can get on loan, there's still a couple of good free agents about. If we don't improve defensively, we won't finish top six. 10-14th place is where I think we'll finish at the minute.
Jace Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Personally I think we have plenty of strength up front this season with Nugent, Wood, Waghorn and Schlupp who especially could really shine this season providing hes given enough opportunity
Babylon Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Would you be confident with Whitbread and Moore in defence this season? Not particularly, but they are backup. We are in the championship, we aren't going to have bench players as good as our starters. You'd have to have bad injuries or suspensions for that to happen, if if does then you always have the option of short term loans. Our defence could ship a lot of goals, with those two playing week in week out. And it's unlikely they will be playing week in week out. Like last season, Nugent and Wood went off form, and that was part of our downward spiral which nearly cost us a play-off place, if that happens again, we won't score many. We weren't creating many chances, that was more of a reason than them being off form. Most teams in this league have one main striker who can score a hatful. We have two who are capable of that, again, we aren't going to have backup as good as our starters. Not many teams have! I know we can't go out and buy players willy nilly, but if we did sell Kasper we would of been able to. And you know he actually wanted to go there? Even right now, free agents and loans are surely available. Says on the back of Mercury today, don't expect many more ins or outs, and he said himself the defence can do with improvements. There's a whole host of players we can get on loan, there's still a couple of good free agents about. If we don't improve defensively, we won't finish top six. 10-14th place is where I think we'll finish at the minute. You do realise that we have to pay people wages don't you, that they don't play for free?
emmo1987 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Put it this way Babs. Would you be confident with Whitbread and Moore in defence this season? What happens if Wood and Nugent's form dips again, where do our goals come from? Our defence ( COULD ) ship a lot of goals, with those two playing week in week out. OR THEY COULD BE SOLID WHO KNOWS? whitbread got promoted with Norwich didn't he? Moore looked solid when called upon. Like last season, Nugent and Wood went off form, and that was part of our downward spiral which nearly cost us a play-off place, if that happens again, we won't score many. I know we can't go out and buy players willy nilly, but if we did sell Kasper we would of been able to. Even right now, free agents and loans are surely available. Says on the back of Mercury today, don't expect many more ins or outs, and he said himself the defence can do with improvements. There's a whole host of players we can get on loan, there's still a couple of good free agents about. If we don't improve defensively, we won't finish top six. 10-14th place is where I think we'll finish at the minute.
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