Guest ttfn Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 He can cup his ****ing ears as much as he likes provided he carries on scoring That's just it though. He's fluctuated between average and very poor for the last six months. You can't go around cupping your ears for perfectly understandable stick. If he'd been getting abuse after six months of whole-hearted, ballsy performances then I'd understand. But he's been too poor and too timid to go around playing the big man. Why don't you make your point by actually playing well Danny? You know, doing your fvcking job, rather than giving it large every time you do something good?
JohnnyFox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Mate you called him a dreadful player then have gone back on yourself, do you admit your first post was a bit harsh then? if you think drinkwater is a dreadful player then you obviously don't remember some of the shite we have had in centre midfield since O'Neil. He has been dreadful recently, I personally believe he shouldn't be starting. Whether as a whole he has been shit, maybe not. My first post may have been more harsh than I intended it to be. Doesn't mean I go back on the fact that he has been pretty dreadful when it comes to pushing and on the break. He has been poor the past few months and should be doing better! Overall, yes he has scored goals but I don't believe he has benefitted us on the break. Don't want to confuse anyone.
Guest ttfn Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 waving your arms in a "come on" gesture would be better then cupping your ears if that was the case Exactly. It is a clear message. And it reflects very, very badly on him. Symptomatic of how distant the players are from the fans these days. 30 years ago he'd be in touch with enough of the fans to know that not everybody is giving him dog's abuse. To know that people spend thousands of pounds of their hard earned money and take days and weeks off work to watch him carry out his profession. But now that human relationship between player and fan has disintegrated.
Matt Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 He needs to get over himself, dig in, admit when he's poor, prove people wrong, if he hears people slagging him off make it push him further. The goes for any other player aswell. Our fans need to stop crying about menial things. People (Players and fans alike) need to toughen up.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Its an insult to the fans that slag him off. It shouldnt annoy you if you dont. It should make you say to those that do, 'You see? The players hear what you say and take it to heart' Drinkwater is not who your annoyance should be aimed at. I'm also not saying that fans are not entitled to their opinion. Only that if you want to slag off and abuse a player fine. But if he bangs one in and wants to shove it down your throat, dont fvcking whine about it. That's a valid point Betts, personally I think he ought to grow up and get on with his fvcking job! Fans moaning has gone on since football began and it's not new to the social network age. If he's that upset about some negative comments then think why and try harder etc etc. I like Drinky as a player and he has been pivotal to some of our good performances, but if he keeps popping at fans who spend £1000 s following our team then get your coat and fvck off son is my view.
ADK Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 I'm still not convinced it's a deliberate pop at the fans but that's just me. Someone would have to ask him. If it's really the case then I just think it's abit unprofessional.
Bettsj2 Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 It's just a bit petulant to me. I like him, when he plays well so do we. Even though like you say it's aimed at the boo boys, it's still not something I like to see. If he's gonna do it when he scored, why's he not Doing it when missing the target from 10 yards (birmingham) out, or missing a 1 on 1? (Yesterday) Because thats not the point he's making? What he's saying is 'look, i'm not the useless cvnt you say I am'. It is petulant there is no doubt about it. But put yourself in his shoes and imagine the amount of shit he's been on the end of, without justification I may add and this really is nothing. Its not like Marshall at Barnsley.
Bettsj2 Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 That's a valid point Betts, personally I think he ought to grow up and get on with his fvcking job! Fans moaning has gone on since football began and it's not new to the social network age. If he's that upset about some negative comments then think why and try harder etc etc. I like Drinky as a player and he has been pivotal to some of our good performances, but if he keeps popping at fans who spend £1000 s following our team then get your coat and fvck off son is my view. I agree that if he really doesnt like it, ask for a transfer but what I dont agree with is the thought that because you'v paid your money, you can say whatever you like without any recourse. That doesnt happen anywhere else in the world so why in football?
Corky Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 It is surprising because at matches I haven't heard too much criticism of Drinkwater. If anything, he's quite popular.
Jaspa Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 If hes got something to say he should say it I dont know the entire reason behind it but if its simply about a few boo boys then its a bad sign of attitude and pretty stupid. Maybe hes just learnt form Wellens and doesnt want to be next
JohnnyFox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Precisely, we pay the money so we can have our say. Doesn't like it then he can go or sort it out.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 I agree that if he really doesnt like it, ask for a transfer but what I dont agree with is the thought that because you'v paid your money, you can say whatever you like without any recourse. That doesnt happen anywhere else in the world so why in football? The passion in football makes it a sounding board for every degree of opinion from the heated to down right ridiculous, just look at this forum A professional footballer is supposed to be just that! As previously stated I've always liked Drinky and have posted many positives when he's rightly deserved it, this petulant behaviour, if indeed that's what it is, needs leaving on the playground.
dayday Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Needs to grow some bollocks,keep performing fans will back off and support him,if he does not his career will take a downward spiral and become another has been.
Kitchandro Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 A very good player and people who say otherwise, clearly have no understanding of the game, yeh nobody's falling for your emperor's new clothes line. People are just ignorant if they can't see he's been crap more often than influential for quite a while. He's never bee anything special because he's always been a negative player. The few times he does play the ball forward or run forward with it often end in him giving it away. I'm always amazed at how much praise players get for doing the easiest things. Apparently standing in the middle and playing very basic 5 yard balls equates to 'being involved in everything we do'. All he's in fact doing is playing it safe. Anyone can do that. What I'd like to see from him is some genuine defence splitting passes and positive moves forward. That is what Drinkwater is expected to do. I've seen him in 3 games so far this season and he's looked poor in 2 of them, and ok in the other. Anyway, as for ear cupping, I don't really agree with it - I doubt he's been getting that much stick and even if he was he's not proved anything by scoring a consolation when we've been crap for an hour. If I was in the away end I'd probably be a bit pissed off.
MooseBreath Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Pearson is to blame for this. The manager sets such a terrible example with his relationship with the fans and the local media that's it's no surprise that some of the younger players are thinking it's fine to have a pop at the fans. Pearson is arrogant enough to forget that the fans have been here for decades and will be here for decades more. He's nothing but a blip in the history of this club and should show a bit more respect. We need Pearson to sort his attitude out first before we can expect it from the likes of Drinkwater.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Agreed. As I said in the post-match thread, if that's his attitude to our supporters then he can do one. It would appear that he's obviously quite a sensitive soul because he really hasn't had that much stick. totally agree never heard anyone give him stick before personally
svensson Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Precisely, we pay the money so we can have our say. Doesn't like it then he can go or sort it out. Wow thats embarrassing, double standards? You are making out that he is worse than Junior Lewis. He puts a shift in, plays some tidy passes and keeps it simple, he's not fvucking Messi. The lad is singling you out for being a moron that has no idea what you are talking about and long may he continue in my opinion. So its ok for you to slag him off, but when the shoe is on the other foot you cry like a child.. I really am embarrassed that you are a fan of my club
Kitchandro Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Pearson is to blame for this. The manager sets such a terrible example with his relationship with the fans and the local media that's it's no surprise that some of the younger players are thinking it's fine to have a pop at the fans. Pearson is arrogant enough to forget that the fans have been here for decades and will be here for decades more. He's nothing but a blip in the history of this club and should show a bit more respect. We need Pearson to sort his attitude out first before we can expect it from the likes of Drinkwater. No. Players were having a go under Sven too, even quicker than this season. Within 3 or 4 games of the 11/12 season Danns, Wellens and Mills (Sven's captain!) all had a pop at the fans. So it's nothing to do with Pearson, even under 'the gentleman' Eriksson we still had arsehole footballers who didn't respect the fans.
JohnnyFox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Wow thats embarrassing, double standards? You are making out that he is worse than Junior Lewis. He puts a shift in, plays some tidy passes and keeps it simple, he's not fvucking Messi. The lad is singling you out for being a moron that has no idea what you are talking about and long may he continue in my opinion. So its ok for you to slag him off, but when the shoe is on the other foot you cry like a child.. I really am embarrassed that you are a fan of my club You talk utter tripe, yes he does play it simple. He is only able to pass it 5 feet in front of him. Who makes you the God of all knowledge? Go back and crawl into your corner pal. Ring up BBC Leicester and enlighten them with your almighty knowledge. I am able to say what I wish, formulate a decent point before you get personal. He hasn't been playing well at all on a whole and because he's scored a couple of goals it means we should kiss his arse and forget everything. Don't be naive. He isn't very consistent like I've been saying, yes I was a tad harsh at the start but he certainly hasn't been brilliant that you're making him out to be.
Aus Fox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Another sign we have some of the worst supporters going around ( we do have a few thousand amazing supporters too) but the Leicester way seems to be abuse your own until they have no confidence left and then when they get frustrated with the constant abuse Marshall, Konchesky Drinkwater and snap back, try are abused even further. We have heard quite a bit over the last couple of years about players being unhappy and wanting to leave, I think it was mentioned again this weekend. Everyone jumps up and blames a fall out with Pearson, but listen to the moan in, go on any social media site or the KP when it's 0 0 at half time and listen to the abuse these players get its no wonder they're unhappy. Just because you get paid x amount of pounds doesn't mean you should be immune from feeling the effects of abuse from your own supporters. Last week I was lucky enough to attend a conference on social media and is use in the work place, schools and the wider community one of the key speakers who I had a long chat with after was an AFL footballer who had been his teams to goal scorer for the last 3 seasons, won 2 pemierships and been one of the best forwards in the competition sine he burst on the scene. This year he has struggled with a back injury and hasn't found the form he has in previous years, he spoke about the abuse he gets on Twitter and the clubs Facebook page as well as a couple of weeks ago being booed at home by 25,000 of his own supporters this lead to him being so unhappy he considered retiring or asking for a trade away from the club. We spoke afterwards about the effect this has on players and he said he doesn't know of a player the abuse can have a positive impact on. I think we all as Leicester City supporters want to see our team do well, get into the premier league and challenge for trophies. At the minute though we are not Barcelona we are not Real Madrid we are not even Fulham we have championship players who are going to have bad games and make mistakes, if they didn't they would be playing premier league football. Lets get behind the lads and realise we do impact the team it's your choice if you want your support to be positive or negative.
GingerrrFox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Pearson is to blame for this. The manager sets such a terrible example with his relationship with the fans and the local media that's it's no surprise that some of the younger players are thinking it's fine to have a pop at the fans. Pearson is arrogant enough to forget that the fans have been here for decades and will be here for decades more. He's nothing but a blip in the history of this club and should show a bit more respect. We need Pearson to sort his attitude out first before we can expect it from the likes of Drinkwater. You are so wrong it's unbelievable and this sort of thing really pisses me off. I've met Nigel plenty of times and had some great conversations with him and if you had been to any of the pre-season games where the low attendance allows you to get closer to the squad and management you would know that Nigel is one of the nicest blokes you could meet. He has time for all the fans, stopping to chat to them, have photos and generally be a top bloke and away from the media with a microphone shoved in his face he is the ideal sort of bloke to go out for a quiet drink with. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about and I think it's bang out of order that you are trying to make a great man sound like a **** basically.
Kitchandro Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Another sign we have some of the worst supporters going around ( we do have a few thousand amazing supporters too) but the Leicester way seems to be abuse your own until they have no confidence left and then when they get frustrated with the constant abuse Marshall, Konchesky Drinkwater and snap back, try are abused even further. We have heard quite a bit over the last couple of years about players being unhappy and wanting to leave, I think it was mentioned again this weekend. Everyone jumps up and blames a fall out with Pearson, but listen to the moan in, go on any social media site or the KP when it's 0 0 at half time and listen to the abuse these players get its no wonder they're unhappy. Just because you get paid x amount of pounds doesn't mean you should be immune from feeling the effects of abuse from your own supporters. Last week I was lucky enough to attend a conference on social media and is use in the work place, schools and the wider community one of the key speakers who I had a long chat with after was an AFL footballer who had been his teams to goal scorer for the last 3 seasons, won 2 pemierships and been one of the best forwards in the competition sine he burst on the scene. This year he has struggled with a back injury and hasn't found the form he has in previous years, he spoke about the abuse he gets on Twitter and the clubs Facebook page as well as a couple of weeks ago being booed at home by 25,000 of his own supporters this lead to him being so unhappy he considered retiring or asking for a trade away from the club. We spoke afterwards about the effect this has on players and he said he doesn't know of a player the abuse can have a positive impact on. I think we all as Leicester City supporters want to see our team do well, get into the premier league and challenge for trophies. At the minute though we are not Barcelona we are not Real Madrid we are not even Fulham we have championship players who are going to have bad games and make mistakes, if they didn't they would be playing premier league football. Lets get behind the lads and realise we do impact the team it's your choice if you want your support to be positive or negative. But as far as I know Drinkwater doesn't get heavy abuse from our fans.
JohnnyFox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 We all support the same club and others have different views than others but some of you can be quite pathetic when replying to posts. Have a proper disagreement and state why you disagree before you start slagging people off behind your screen! It's their job to play, we get stick if we don't perform at work. Why can't people say what they think without getting shit for it? Grow up.
The whole world smiles Posted 1 September 2013 Author Posted 1 September 2013 We all support the same club and others have different views than others but some of you can be quite pathetic when replying to posts. Have a proper disagreement and state why you disagree before you start slagging people off behind your screen! It's their job to play, we get stick if we don't perform at work. Why can't people say what they think without getting shit for it? Grow up. Mate you started out in this thread calling him dreadful then said he's not dreadful you just get annoyed because he isn't playing as well as he could do. now your telling people to stop slagging people off minutes after telling some lad he talks 'utter tripe'. Maybe if your points were a bit more coherent and a little less conflicting you would get the proper disagreement you are after.
Mack Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 I think some of these players need to take a long look at themselves. Players like Gallagher and Drinkwater hold all the cards, and they will get out of their relationship with their employer and it's fans whatever they chose to invest into it. Just look at Matty James. When he joined along with Drinkwater from Man Ure it was the latter who looked to be the one who would make the most impact, but with quiet hard work and dedication James has proven to be the player with most to offer. I fear that the issues with some of these lads lie much closer to home than they realise.
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