JohnnyFox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Mate you started out in this thread calling him dreadful then said he's not dreadful you just get annoyed because he isn't playing as well as he could do. now your telling people to stop slagging people off minutes after telling some lad he talks 'utter tripe'. Maybe if your points were a bit more coherent and a little less conflicting you would get the proper disagreement you are after. After his comments about me?
cityfanlee23 Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 I've been at every game this season so far and he has been below average. Credit he has scored goals, but I think he struggles to get the ball through and making runs. I think you are a bit deluded if you think he was fantastic, did you clap them at the end too? He's not an attacking midfielder and he's not really played as that? Do you want 30 a season from him? Watch his build up play, his movement, his mouth (He is vocal) He's better than you think, promise.
cityfanlee23 Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Another sign we have some of the worst supporters going around ( we do have a few thousand amazing supporters too) but the Leicester way seems to be abuse your own until they have no confidence left and then when they get frustrated with the constant abuse Marshall, Konchesky Drinkwater and snap back, try are abused even further. We have heard quite a bit over the last couple of years about players being unhappy and wanting to leave, I think it was mentioned again this weekend. Everyone jumps up and blames a fall out with Pearson, but listen to the moan in, go on any social media site or the KP when it's 0 0 at half time and listen to the abuse these players get its no wonder they're unhappy. Just because you get paid x amount of pounds doesn't mean you should be immune from feeling the effects of abuse from your own supporters. Last week I was lucky enough to attend a conference on social media and is use in the work place, schools and the wider community one of the key speakers who I had a long chat with after was an AFL footballer who had been his teams to goal scorer for the last 3 seasons, won 2 pemierships and been one of the best forwards in the competition sine he burst on the scene. This year he has struggled with a back injury and hasn't found the form he has in previous years, he spoke about the abuse he gets on Twitter and the clubs Facebook page as well as a couple of weeks ago being booed at home by 25,000 of his own supporters this lead to him being so unhappy he considered retiring or asking for a trade away from the club. We spoke afterwards about the effect this has on players and he said he doesn't know of a player the abuse can have a positive impact on. I think we all as Leicester City supporters want to see our team do well, get into the premier league and challenge for trophies. At the minute though we are not Barcelona we are not Real Madrid we are not even Fulham we have championship players who are going to have bad games and make mistakes, if they didn't they would be playing premier league football. Lets get behind the lads and realise we do impact the team it's your choice if you want your support to be positive or negative. Don't join my ship... I tried to set the ship sail and got bombarded by our shite fans on the foxestalk forum... Went down like the titanic, its a long trek, but we can get there together
svensson Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 You talk utter tripe, yes he does play it simple. He is only able to pass it 5 feet in front of him. Who makes you the God of all knowledge? Go back and crawl into your corner pal. Ring up BBC Leicester and enlighten them with your almighty knowledge. I am able to say what I wish, formulate a decent point before you get personal. He hasn't been playing well at all on a whole and because he's scored a couple of goals it means we should kiss his arse and forget everything. Don't be naive. He isn't very consistent like I've been saying, yes I was a tad harsh at the start but he certainly hasn't been brilliant that you're making him out to be. You aren't worthy of a discussion as you have changed your mind over numerous posts. You also aren't factually correct, where have i insinuated that we should kiss his arse? Don't bother replying, you will just make yourself look even more foolish. Another sign we have some of the worst supporters going around ( we do have a few thousand amazing supporters too) but the Leicester way seems to be abuse your own until they have no confidence left and then when they get frustrated with the constant abuse Marshall, Konchesky Drinkwater and snap back, try are abused even further. We have heard quite a bit over the last couple of years about players being unhappy and wanting to leave, I think it was mentioned again this weekend. Everyone jumps up and blames a fall out with Pearson, but listen to the moan in, go on any social media site or the KP when it's 0 0 at half time and listen to the abuse these players get its no wonder they're unhappy. Just because you get paid x amount of pounds doesn't mean you should be immune from feeling the effects of abuse from your own supporters. Last week I was lucky enough to attend a conference on social media and is use in the work place, schools and the wider community one of the key speakers who I had a long chat with after was an AFL footballer who had been his teams to goal scorer for the last 3 seasons, won 2 pemierships and been one of the best forwards in the competition sine he burst on the scene. This year he has struggled with a back injury and hasn't found the form he has in previous years, he spoke about the abuse he gets on Twitter and the clubs Facebook page as well as a couple of weeks ago being booed at home by 25,000 of his own supporters this lead to him being so unhappy he considered retiring or asking for a trade away from the club. We spoke afterwards about the effect this has on players and he said he doesn't know of a player the abuse can have a positive impact on. I think we all as Leicester City supporters want to see our team do well, get into the premier league and challenge for trophies. At the minute though we are not Barcelona we are not Real Madrid we are not even Fulham we have championship players who are going to have bad games and make mistakes, if they didn't they would be playing premier league football. Lets get behind the lads and realise we do impact the team it's your choice if you want your support to be positive or negative. Excellent post!
svensson Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 I think some of these players need to take a long look at themselves. Players like Gallagher and Drinkwater hold all the cards, and they will get out of their relationship with their employer and it's fans whatever they chose to invest into it. Just look at Matty James. When he joined along with Drinkwater from Man Ure it was the latter who looked to be the one who would make the most impact, but with quiet hard work and dedication James has proven to be the player with most to offer. I fear that the issues with some of these lads lie much closer to home than they realise. What has gally got to do with it?? Does DD ever give less than 100%? He gets his head down and works hard. He's not an attacking midfielder and he's not really played as that? Do you want 30 a season from him? Watch his build up play, his movement, his mouth (He is vocal) He's better than you think, promise. 100% agree
brockmyster Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Strikes me as up himself, done this numerous times and on a couple of times he has just ****ed off down the tunnel at full time when the others have come over and applauded the fans etc
JohnnyFox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 You aren't worthy of a discussion as you have changed your mind over numerous posts. You also aren't factually correct, where have i insinuated that we should kiss his arse? Don't bother replying, you will just make yourself look even more foolish. Excellent post! ok pal you are right. I did get myself into a mix up. I have tried to clarify what my point, you are the biggest fan about and I don't have a clue. Happy? I did say I was wrong but you have missed that, haven't you? I said I was harsh and I shouldn't have said what I originally put. You have no point to prove?
5waller5 Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 Originally I wasn't very impressed with him doing this .... it's petulant, unnecessary and seems to be creating a rift between him and the fans that actually doesn't exist. But then I considered .... maybe he's listening to the celebration??? I'm loving the noise you're making, let's celebrate!!!! It's not necessarily the derisory action it's assumed to be?
Mack Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 What has gally got to do with it?? Does DD ever give less than 100%? He gets his head down and works hard. 100% agree I was likening his attitude to Gallagher's, not his output.
hackneyfox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 It's like a scene from Father Ted, some of you seem incapable of realising that the world on here isn't what happens in reality. The players and manager get both praise and abuse on here, they get very little at games and should they do something above the norm will have thousands of fans cheering them. When has Drinkwater ever had a sizable section of fans give him grief, I don't remember hearing it?
Guest Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 It's like a scene from Father Ted, some of you seem incapable of realising that the world on here isn't what happens in reality. The players and manager get both praise and abuse on here, they get very little at games and should they do something above the norm will have thousands of fans cheering them. When has Drinkwater ever had a sizable section of fans give him grief, I don't remember hearing it? He's never been the target of any grief from our fans. Which is why to most of us it seems like a gesture completely out of left field
ian the fox Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 An honest player who obviously has been offended at some point ................. He needs to kick on now & forget .it ...........he's better than that
Ozwin Posted 1 September 2013 Posted 1 September 2013 I think people are looking into this a bit much. Probably nothing. Chill.
Jakemoore Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Not surprised he did that tbh. Sitting in the away end on Saturday I realised just how many of our fans are complete idiots who just want to shout abuse at our players! This one guy behind me called Dyer a C**T for not having the pace to get the ball before the keeper could. He then shouted abuse at Iggy for clearing the ball instead of passing it out from the back when he had absolutely nothing on! He also shouted "how about you score us a goal Chrissy Powell you f*****g p***k" - Powell is a legend, is he not? And okay, granted our players aren't always great and in fact some times they can be individually or collectively astonishingly awful but it's no wonder DD reacted the way he has done when you look at some of our fans!
Dan Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 The whole scenario is an absolute farce and both 'sides' (even though we're all part of the same club, apparently) are at fault for me. A lot of our fans are complete idiots and I seriously question why a lot bother at all, but Drinkwater needs to pack this in too, childish and embarrassing. Players vs fans and we're in the play-offs, football is so backwards it's unreal.
Dan Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Not surprised he did that tbh. Sitting in the away end on Saturday I realised just how many of our fans are complete idiots who just want to shout abuse at our players! This one guy behind me called Dyer a C**T for not having the pace to get the ball before the keeper could. He then shouted abuse at Iggy for clearing the ball instead of passing it out from the back when he had absolutely nothing on! He also shouted "how about you score us a goal Chrissy Powell you f*****g p***k" - Powell is a legend, is he not? And okay, granted our players aren't always great and in fact some times they can be individually or collectively astonishingly awful but it's no wonder DD reacted the way he has done when you look at some of our fans! Not a 'legend' by any means but any LCFC fan giving him stick needs a word with themselves. I don't understand what a lot of our fans even go to football for, a lot of them seem hell bent on just picking a negative from literally anything possible and whilst there's nothing wrong with striving for better, so many are completely oblivious to reality. But is it fair on a lot of us who travel up and down the country, often watch us turn in hopeless displays in some shithole town 150 miles away, to be tarred with the same brush? I'd think not. I'm not offended or anything by what he did but it almost seems to me like it's players v fans at this club at times and it really is an embarrassment. It's a sad reflection on the state of English football, I'd say.
Strokes Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Seems to me being slagged off is having a positive impact on his game. Perhaps blowing smoke up his arse gave him a big head. I've seen him play well and ive seen him have shockers, he has to be able to take the boos if he wants to enjoy the plaudits. Its not a very smart move to engage with the fans in this way, he has to stay on top of his game now or the knives will be out. A certain section of our fans will be just waiting for him to fail now. I wont have much sympathy for him either.
Guest ttfn Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Originally I wasn't very impressed with him doing this .... it's petulant, unnecessary and seems to be creating a rift between him and the fans that actually doesn't exist. But then I considered .... maybe he's listening to the celebration??? I'm loving the noise you're making, let's celebrate!!!! It's not necessarily the derisory action it's assumed to be? lol
shade Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Its an insult to the fans that slag him off. It shouldnt annoy you if you dont. It should make you say to those that do, 'You see? The players hear what you say and take it to heart' Drinkwater is not who your annoyance should be aimed at. I'm also not saying that fans are not entitled to their opinion. Only that if you want to slag off and abuse a player fine. But if he bangs one in and wants to shove it down your throat, dont fvcking whine about it. yeah exactly, it's little more than banter against a few who slate him. personally I rate him.
sylofox Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Its an insult to the fans that slag him off. It shouldnt annoy you if you dont. It should make you say to those that do, 'You see? The players hear what you say and take it to heart' Drinkwater is not who your annoyance should be aimed at. I'm also not saying that fans are not entitled to their opinion. Only that if you want to slag off and abuse a player fine. But if he bangs one in and wants to shove it down your throat, dont fvcking whine about it. I don't agree with a lot you say but this is so spot on right. I do sometimes wonder how many of our fans would be hurt if someone stood in a room and said "All forest fans are wankers". You just know someone would come on here crying or the moan in.
shade Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 totally agree never heard anyone give him stick before personally do you not think players read/ hear about what the fickle foxestalk fanatics say, at all? if he did he would know that a decent percentage of people on here think he's slow, negative, can't pass forward etc etc. he would then extrapolate it out and assume a lot of our fans slate him, which isn't true, it's just a few negative internet football 'experts'.
sylofox Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 What gets me Is the fact he is being bullied. If all those who slag him off went to work and got slagged off they would claim bullying in the work place. But as a footballer he can't do that. So he puts a hand to his ear and people start crying over it. Also when you slagg him off he has gone through a selection process and made it as a pro footballer. Unlike all of them slagging him off who can't and never have played the game at the level he has. Some people need to grow up and stop running to mummy.
Fox92 Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 What gets me Is the fact he is being bullied. If all those who slag him off went to work and got slagged off they would claim bullying in the work place. But as a footballer he can't do that. So he puts a hand to his ear and people start crying over it. Also when you slagg him off he has gone through a selection process and made it as a pro footballer. Unlike all of them slagging him off who can't and never have played the game at the level he has. Some people need to grow up and stop running to mummy. The only difference is, he is doing it towards the people who pay his wages. When your boss critisizes you, how many times have you gone back up to him after doing something right, and the put your hand over your ear in front of him? I'm afraid footballers know what they are walking into. It's part and parcel of the game that he'll get slated by a minority of the fans.
Aus Fox Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 The only difference is, he is doing it towards the people who pay his wages. When your boss critisizes you, how many times have you gone back up to him after doing something right, and the put your hand over your ear in front of him? I'm afraid footballers know what they are walking into. It's part and parcel of the game that he'll get slated by a minority of the fans. That's not true, we as supporters are customers not his boss, I have in the past when a client has questioned how I operate showed them the finished product and said look I do know what I am doing.
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