Muslims allow to REFUSE to sell Pork and Alcohol in M&S Stores

[cambridgefox]

There's no need to get cross.

Well it's a thorny issue.

[StanSP]

My mate works at Jewsons,he is refusing to sell nails and wood!

Should be in the joke section,but trying to lighten the mood and it is a joke about my religion .

On a more serious note you could go around in circles on this one.See both sides,I haven't read it all but do you not think the way around it would be to have a large sign on the tills saying" no pork or Alcohol at this till"when a Muslim employee is serving who feels strongly about it.problem solved.no waiting,everyone is happy.

 

 

There's no need to get cross.

 

 

Well it's a thorny issue.

 

Jesus Christ, you have taken this too far.

[C-man]

As long as they're not sorting someone elses problem out. It's poor service and paying customers are entitled to be annoyed about it.

 

Again, at what point does this grievance become so severe in someone's mind that they have to inform a fvcking newspaper about it? If the guy is an under 18 rather than a Muslim and tells this holier-than-thou individual that he cannot sell him alcohol, does he write to a newspaper? Absolutely no chance.

 

The fact is people have this utterly paranoid and lunatic idea that we are all going to give into Sharia Law at some stage and we must protect our 'Christian values' as a country. I would say that the ignorance is astounding but it really isn't, is it?

[Charl91]

Jesus christ. The amount of people being outraged by "poor customer service" in this thread is ridiculous. If that's your biggest problem, then I think you can say you have nothing to complain about.

 

This is such a non-story.

[MC Prussian]

UK right-wing media in Muslim denunciation shocker.

 

Stories like this have an eerie resemblance to the religious media hunts in the US.

 

They can't even stop during the Christmas period which, surprisingly enough, is meant to be a special period of the year dedicated to joy, togetherness, forgiveness and reflection.

[Vlad the Fox]

Next we'll have Catholics refusing to sell dobbers.

Yes, but once they've stuck a pin through all the packets they're not effectively selling contraception.

[James.]

Again, at what point does this grievance become so severe in someone's mind that they have to inform a fvcking newspaper about it? If the guy is an under 18 rather than a Muslim and tells this holier-than-thou individual that he cannot sell him alcohol, does he write to a newspaper? Absolutely no chance.

 

The fact is people have this utterly paranoid and lunatic idea that we are all going to give into Sharia Law at some stage and we must protect our 'Christian values' as a country. I would say that the ignorance is astounding but it really isn't, is it?

 

It's amazing people are still banging on about this.

 

One employee on one till in one branch of one shop. One small error subsequently rectified and apologised for. Listening to some of you lot you would have thought there were thousands of tills across the country refusing to serve you your fúcking sausage rolls.

 

One employee, one till, one store. One small error, one apology.

 

Move on.

[StanSP]

It's amazing people are still banging on about this.

 

One employee on one till in one branch of one shop. One small error subsequently rectified and apologised for. Listening to some of you lot you would have thought there were thousands of tills across the country refusing to serve you your fúcking sausage rolls.

 

One employee, one till, one store. One small error, one apology.

 

Move on.

 

Well said.

[Vlad the Fox]

When I used to work in a bar I would make a couple of forest fans that came in wait longer to get served.

[Zingari]

[Rincewind]

What James said.

This was my point when I said there were other issues that could be addressed and reported.

[Guest MattP]

The only people complaining now are the people complaining about people complaining

[MC Prussian]

The only people complaining now are the people complaining about people complaining

And rightfully so.

 

Because there are more people falling for this kind of non-story than there are actually people affected by it.

[Zingari]

The only people complaining now are the people complaining about people complaining

Well i'm not happy unless  I've got something to be miserable  about.

[MC Prussian]

Next story you'll see the Daily Fail dish out after crimbo is going to be along the lines of

 

"Muslim Santa refused to hand prezzies over to my 93-year old nan".

 

Or, to quote a FOX News classic:

 

"It's a war on Christmas!"

[Webbo]

Again, at what point does this grievance become so severe in someone's mind that they have to inform a fvcking newspaper about it? If the guy is an under 18 rather than a Muslim and tells this holier-than-thou individual that he cannot sell him alcohol, does he write to a newspaper? Absolutely no chance.

 

The fact is people have this utterly paranoid and lunatic idea that we are all going to give into Sharia Law at some stage and we must protect our 'Christian values' as a country. I would say that the ignorance is astounding but it really isn't, is it?

I've not mentioned Muslims, sharia law or any of that other crap. While some people in this thread have previous derided religion talking about fairies at the bottom of the garden and flying spaghetti monsters I've defended religion and religious freedom.

 

My main gripe in this thread are the people  who decide what others are allowed to be offended by as if they're the sole arbiters of right and wrong. "So what if you have to stand around for 10 minutes while you're being served, you should be grateful you're getting served at all". I'm sorry but I don't need anyone's permission to be annoyed so if you don't like you're just going to have to suck it up.

[Bettsj2]

I would be amazed if this ever actually happened. In fact, I would actually love it to happen. Not just this though. Any of the islamist persecution forced upon us. This, a nurse in a burka etc. Never encountered any of it!

Whilst I dont want to get into a religion argument, there aren't many religions that aren't ridiculous are there?

[Rodders]

Has anyone actually read the story?!?!  "Marks & Spencer said the advice had been given in error and was not consistent with its national policy [...] in the case highlighted today [they] were not following [their] own policy."

A local store made an incorrect decision against company policy and there's uproar both on her and on the Mail website.  Crazy!  Nowhere do M&S condone the employee's action.  And people are criticising M&S policy which the action contravened. 

 

People, read before you react.

[ADK]

I don't think anyone has really reacted.

[Rodders]

I don't think anyone has really reacted.

A skim read of the last 6 1/2 pages suggests otherwise.

 

Also all the Mail comments aiming vitriol at M&S.

[Harry - LCFC]

Again, at what point does this grievance become so severe in someone's mind that they have to inform a fvcking newspaper about it? If the guy is an under 18 rather than a Muslim and tells this holier-than-thou individual that he cannot sell him alcohol, does he write to a newspaper? Absolutely no chance.

 

The fact is people have this utterly paranoid and lunatic idea that we are all going to give into Sharia Law at some stage and we must protect our 'Christian values' as a country. I would say that the ignorance is astounding but it really isn't, is it?

 

Very much agree with this.

 

As much I think it's a bit of a ridiculous incident it really isn't much of one to be honest. I disagree with the people who refuse to sell certain products as most others seem to but at the same time I realise it's a pretty minor problem. An irritation rather than an outrage.

[hejammy]

I really cannot believe the ignorance of some people on here. I'm actually ashamed to call them fellow Leicester supporters. Learn about the religion which you so frequently jump on the bandwagon about and have ludicrous comments about. 'Muslims are ridiculous' wow... You must be the apple of your parents eyes. If someone isn't capable of doing a job for whatever reason, they shouldn't do it. If they don't feel comfortable handling things which are forbidden in their religion then so be it. There are plenty of other jobs out there (perhaps not for the person who made that previous quote). I'm also very glad that we do have a fair number of people posting on here with an intellect of more than a slug (no offense to slugs)

[Strokes]

A skim read of the last 6 1/2 pages suggests otherwise.

Also all the Mail comments aiming vitriol at M&S.

Hahaha, skim read. Your words read before you react.

[Thracian]

Exactly. This is a small, unimportant matter that allows Muslims to take on a job without worrying about their religious conscience. It's not like setting up Shariah Courts is it?

 

Sharia courts are old news.... 

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3682/uk-sharia-courts

 

Sounds as if this locally-taken M&S decision was against national policy but it seems to me that In applying for any job in a shop it should be a given that the applicant shows willing to serve the items on offer.

 

If you're against meat/alcohol/cigarettes etc, more important, unwilling to help sell them, then don't apply for a job where the selling of such products  is a known part of the duties.

 

Similarly if you don't like making people miserable don't ask to become a traffic warden or, if the sight of blood makes you faint, don't apply to become a surgeon.

 

In applying for any job you should be accepting the requirements that go with it or, at the very least, pre-negotiating any special consideration you may require. In other words you should be taking responsibility for your actions. 

[Zingari]

Sharia courts are old news.... 

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3682/uk-sharia-courts

 

Sounds as if this locally-taken M&S decision was against national policy but it seems to me that In applying for any job in a shop it should be a given that the applicant shows willing to serve the items on offer.

 

If you're against meat/alcohol/cigarettes etc, more important, unwilling to help sell them, then don't apply for a job where the selling of such products  is a known part of the duties.

 

Similarly if you don't like making people miserable don't ask to become a traffic warden or, if the sight of blood makes you faint, don't apply to become a surgeon.

 

In applying for any job you should be accepting the requirements that go with it or, at the very least, pre-negotiating any special consideration you may require. In other words you should be taking responsibility for your actions. 

i think i'd broadly go along with you there. it does seem odd if you apply for a job to be excused boots for certain parts of it .it's bound to cause unnecessary problems in the workplace.