queensguardfox Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 Just read this article it believes Nigel Pearson has the highest win percentage of any of the clubs managers, is there any stat guru's who can shed light on this? is there a table with other managers win percentages out there? amazing feat right? Also quite a good analysis on how we are winning these games that last season we wouldn't. http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/3nLOLtsEGEOSHyWNYEKqHg
Xen Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/history/managerstats.php
John Munday Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair
Mark_w Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair I think that in his second spell at the club he has the second highest win percentage in the clubs history (behind his first run that included the League One season).
queensguardfox Posted 5 February 2014 Author Posted 5 February 2014 I think that in his second spell at the club he has the second highest win percentage in the clubs history (behind his first run that included the League One season). Fair play to the bloke, i hope we give him at least a crack of the whip in the premiership.
Ford Super Sunday Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair I honestly don't understand the 'oh but you've got to discount League One.' Would we be discounting it if we'd finished 9th and then gone up the season after? Just because we blitzed the league in a division we'd never been in before doesn't mean his stats don't count. Every win, draw and loss was played over exactly the same rules and regulations as every other manager in our history. We going to start discounting every players stats in League One on the same basis? Should anyone who keeps a record of the number of games they have attended discount League One as well? Utter nonsense.
Russell sprout Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair Whys that,was it to easy so shouldn't count.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair Probably the most ridiculous thing I've read on here and thats quite an achievement
Harry - LCFC Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 Whys that,was it to easy so shouldn't count. Yes.
Corky Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair Why? He didn't take us there.
MC Prussian Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair So, Leicester City FC would always win games in League One automatically, without even having to play?
LanguedocFox Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 I don't dispute the figures but the season in the "third tier" should be discounted to make it fair On what possible basis? Were all of the other teams in Division Three ordered to make it easy for us to win? The team that Pearson took over in June 2008 was utterly demoralised, AND it had lost key players like Gareth McAuley, Iain Hume and Richard Stearman. In similar circumstances, clubs like Wolves, Forest, Leeds and Villa all went down and stayed down. You may think that Pearson deserves little credit for his record during our only season in Division Three, but you are, I think, in a very small minority.
Finn Claw II Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 Let's see what we look like after 4 or 5 seasons in the top flight! If we can get to the Premiership and we stay then his spell ranks alongside MON. I'd take a win percentage of 35% in the Prem as opposed to 50% in the championship. If you had all the betting odds for that last 20 - 30 years worth of games you could calculate an expected vs. actual points haul....
Finn Claw II Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 On what possible basis? Were all of the other teams in Division Three ordered to make it easy for us to win? The team that Pearson took over in June 2008 was utterly demoralised, AND it had lost key players like Gareth McAuley, Iain Hume and Richard Stearman. In similar circumstances, clubs like Wolves, Forest, Leeds and Villa all went down and stayed down. You may think that Pearson deserves little credit for his record during our only season in Division Three, but you are, I think, in a very small minority. I think the point is that we were a big club in the third tier and were expected to win games hence a big win percentage, in the top tier we are a small club and hence the win percentage should be lower. Obviously NP did a great job in getting us out the league I don't think that is disputed.
Beliall Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 Fair play to the bloke, i hope we give him at least a crack of the whip in the premiership. i hope he gets much more, if we were to go straight back down again (if we get promoted) theres no-one else i would want to guide us up
LanguedocFox Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 i hope he gets much more, if we were to go straight back down again (if we get promoted) theres no-one else i would want to guide us up I agree - and hopefully our owners will be patient enough to see it that way. Whether they will or not is another matter.
Russell sprout Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 Yes. Il assume an intelligent person like you harry is being sarcastic
Harry - LCFC Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 Il assume an intelligent person like you harry is being sarcastic Kind of, I can see his point though. There's no doubt that games in League One are easier to win than games in the Championship so I'd say it is a little unfair when judging him against other managers. I don't agree that they should be entirely discounted though, he still did very well and you can't ignore that.
Russell sprout Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 Maybe we should take the coca cola cup from o Neil then as it was the Micky mouse cup, You can only beat whats in front of you, Regardless of opposition, To say pearsons win record should only be based on the championship is ridiculous,if we had came mid table that season you would be judging him on his failure,so why shouldn't he be judged in the same way on his success.
wight88 Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 The games that we won in the prem under O Neill against the likes of Bradford Barnsley and of course Cov also need to be discounted....
Russell sprout Posted 5 February 2014 Posted 5 February 2014 The games that we won in the prem under O Neill against the likes of Bradford Barnsley and of course Cov also need to be discounted.... Couldn't agree more,only wins against bigger and better opposition should count,easy games don't cuz anyone could win them.
Vlad the Fox Posted 6 February 2014 Posted 6 February 2014 Kind of, I can see his point though. There's no doubt that games in League One are easier to win than games in the Championship so I'd say it is a little unfair when judging him against other managers. I don't agree that they should be entirely discounted though, he still did very well and you can't ignore that. But the team relegated wasn't good enough for the league above. Pearson had to build a team good enough to get out of league 1. If those players that came were so much better then they would have been snapped up by teams playing at a higher level. So of course his league one record counts, or shall we discount his prem record when we get there because the players aren't good enough to win the league.
Kitchandro Posted 6 February 2014 Posted 6 February 2014 He has the 2 highest win percentages so you can not count his first spell if you want, he still has the highest.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 6 February 2014 Posted 6 February 2014 He has the 2 highest win percentages so you can not count his first spell if you want, he still has the highest. Yet you'll still get people wanting him out. "Bring back 2009 Pearson"
Captain... Posted 6 February 2014 Posted 6 February 2014 These are stats, they don't prove anything just represent data, having the best win percentage is just that, it doesn't make him the best manager in our history as he hasn't been successful with us in the top flight, yet. It would be interesting to see those stats split out by division, but you wouldn't do that with club goal scorers, you wouldn't say that King's goals in League One don't count, a goal is a goal and a win is a win.
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