Corners

[The Year Of The Fox]

We've always been poor at them for as long as I can remember. Our deliveries are pretty crap-assuming its beaten the first man on the post.

Waghorns corners were the most dangerous I've seen for a while. There were a couple of games last season where he whipped them ij really ferociously

[Iwan is a Welshman]

"The range is anywhere from 1 goal for every 36 to 70 corners attempted. Or, slightly less than 2% of corner kicks result in a goal."

http://www.scienceofsocceronline.com/2010/12/corner-kicks-by-numbers.html

Thought so. Good post.

[Bayfox]

If you watch Liam Moore he will always start his run on the edge of the box and if he does head the ball it will be with power.

Wes is usually pretty static when the ball is delivered which makes it very difficult to get any power behind the header.

This.

We used to have walsh, elliott and taggart. Even prior etc all starting runs from the edge of the box and meeting the ball with pace and power.

Now we stick wes in the six yard box and don't really have that much other height. Moore and delaet are really the only other players you'f fancy to win a header.

[foxfanazer]

You know the team is doing well when all we can moan about his our inability to convert corners into goals

[Bert]

wasnt it Moore v wigan

Almost certain off the top of my head the Huddersfield game was after that.

[shailen]

you can pick out individual things like this, but the only stat we need to care about is the number of wins. other teams may score more goals from corners, but that stat alone isnt important. Our overall play has been better then any other team this season, this is all that matters

[dayday]

I mentioned this last season and got shot down for it ,nothing's changed we are still predictable at corners....it makes me laugh when we get a corner, the fans cream in there pants when we get one knowing f.all comes from it .

When we was good at corners the Elliott's,Walshies and Taggarts would stand outside the box then run on on delivery,amazed we don't do that anymore.

[Bettsj2]

If you look at the stats, its very rare that any team scores straight from a corner.

We're no worse than anyone else.

[dayday]

If you look at the stats, its very rare that any team scores straight from a corner.

We're no worse than anyone else.

Even so it would be nice to look a threat from them,movement is key for me,defenders hate that ... Being static is easy for defenders.

[foxes_rule1978]

I think we should be taking more short corners, it is obvious we don't get much success just directly pumping it into the box.

[Stadt]

Wasn't there a game,Huddersfield maybe, where we scored from 2 corners?

[jammie82uk]

Think we should go with the short corners more and Instead of any time spelt practicing attacking corners think we should have shooting practice from just outside and around the 18 yard box instead

Gotta have a better chance of 1 in 70 surely

[The Year Of The Fox]

I think we should be taking more short corners, it is obvious we don't get much success just directly pumping it into the box.

No. Short corners are shit. Our players dilly dally on them too much and end up giving the ball away.

Its really really not hard to put a good ball into the box direct from a corner. Knockys are too easily defended IMO

[Iwan is a Welshman]

To be honest, if you read all of the posts on this thread, it's been shown that people expect too much of corners.

If someone had the ratio for how many we've scored from corners this season I bet we wouldn't be far off the statistical average.

[XLM]

We're pretty rubbish from all set-pieces really. Not an issue if we find other ways to score mind.. But it's something I hope we figure out over summer

[Bettsj2]

Even so it would be nice to look a threat from them,movement is key for me,defenders hate that ... Being static is easy for defenders.

In fairness, the last few games Was has missed a couple of sitters from corners as has Nuge, Liam Moore hit the bar a few games back and Matty James nearly scored directly from a corner. We're certainly not static. To me this is another 'Drinkwater only passes backwards' type critisism in that there really isnt anything to be critical of. People just remember the MON days when set pieces were actually our main threat. Back then we did have an unusually tall team though.

[foxfanazer]

In fairness, the last few games Was has missed a couple of sitters from corners as has Nuge, Liam Moore hit the bar a few games back and Matty James nearly scored directly from a corner. We're certainly not static. To me this is another 'Drinkwater only passes backwards' type critisism in that there really isnt anything to be critical of. People just remember the MON days when set pieces were actually our main threat. Back then we did have an unusually tall team though.

Agreed

[Bagworthblue]

Have Wes, Waz and De Laet all make a run in a diagonal from edge of the box towards 6 yard box Aka Tony James / Walsh etc. Have the 2 strikers in the box for drop downs and have 2 good shooters just outside box for headed clearances to have a crack - Drinky / Knocky. Konch and Dyer on half way for when it invariably goes tits up and opponent breaks :-)

nb having Konch on halfway also assures the safety of those fans sat high up behind the goal

[Captain...]

We're pretty rubbish from all set-pieces really. Not an issue if we find other ways to score mind.. But it's something I hope we figure out over summer

 

Agree, apart from Waghorn's spell last season when every delivery looked dangerous, I just don't feel we threaten from set pieces, unless Knocky is having a pop. The fact we did with Waghorn suggests the problem is the delivery, I think it is just too floated and predictable where it is going. Whip it in lower and with more pace, the more time it is in the air the easier it is for the defenders to judge where it is going, and more importantly who it is going to.

[Number 6]

Given they aren't a great source of goals, would we be better served playing it short and trying to work it into a better position?

[Captain...]

Given they aren't a great source of goals, would we be better served playing it short and trying to work it into a better position?

 

Depends on how the game is going and whether they are creating any pressure, or just meat and drink for the defenders. If we are 1-0 up, and up against big buggers at the back, then sticking one in the box will probably just hand possession back to them and leave us exposed to the counter. Keep it short, keep our defenders back and try and work an opening makes more sense in those circumstances. But we should still be working on scoring from corners in training as we will score from them, best thing to do is vary it up, make them think about what we might do and they may make a mistake.

[Vicki Vixen]

Agree, apart from Waghorn's spell last season when every delivery looked dangerous, I just don't feel we threaten from set pieces, unless Knocky is having a pop. The fact we did with Waghorn suggests the problem is the delivery, I think it is just too floated and predictable where it is going. Whip it in lower and with more pace, the more time it is in the air the easier it is for the defenders to judge where it is going, and more importantly who it is going to.

Totally agree

[Number 6]

Depends on how the game is going and whether they are creating any pressure, or just meat and drink for the defenders. If we are 1-0 up, and up against big buggers at the back, then sticking one in the box will probably just hand possession back to them and leave us exposed to the counter. Keep it short, keep our defenders back and try and work an opening makes more sense in those circumstances. But we should still be working on scoring from corners in training as we will score from them, best thing to do is vary it up, make them think about what we might do and they may make a mistake.

Agree, and think this may partly be the issue. We need some variety and often to me it seems a bit "chuck it in and hope".