davieG Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 would we be hearing more about it? £1000 fine and 15 point deduction is a bit harsh on the club or is it? Rugby club slapped with £1,000 fine as match referees have their underpants torn off in 'ritual' By Leicester Mercury | Posted: February 28, 2014 By Adrian Troughton Aylestone St James RFC, in Scraptoft Comments (2)A rugby club has been disciplined after three referees had their underpants ripped off by players and members following a game. The officials were surrounded and had their underwear forcibly removed – while they were still wearing their trousers – at the Aylestone St James RFC clubhouse, in Scraptoft. One victim told the Rugby Football Union, which investigated the incident, that he found the experience "humiliating and embarrassing," and felt "ashamed" about what had happened. The RFU carried out a disciplinary hearing and found the club guilty of misconduct. It ordered Aylestone St James, which is nicknamed Jimmies and plays in the Midlands Three East (North) league, to pay £1,000 to a charity and £150 compensation to each official. It also ruled that the club will be docked 15 points next season. The RFU held the disciplinary hearing after the referees complained about the incident, which happened after Jimmies played Grimsby on November 3 last year. The hearing in Coventry on December 4 heard how the referees, from the Durham and Northumberland society, had travelled in one car to officiate at separate games. A statement of the facts from the hearing read: "The Aylestone St James game passed without incident but after the game the referee had a few drinks with the team. "He described the post-game happenings as fairly normal and had no problem engaging in banter and a few drinks with the players. He then had his boxer shorts removed without his consent by numerous players." The disciplinary hearing was told the club had a "tradition of people not wearing underwear" after a particular time of day. The referee then sent a text to the other two referees who arrived at the clubhouse in Covert Lane, Scraptoft. "They were welcomed and drink was purchased for them," the statement read. "Then, after approximately five minutes or so, they were surrounded and informed about the rule of no underwear. "They then had their underwear removed despite them not wishing to partake or consent to such action." The referees left the clubhouse and immediately reported the matter to the Durham and Northumberland referees' society. The report added: "One referee stated in an e-mail to the RFU that he endured 12 hours of some discomfort and pain and some shock. He also felt humiliated. He was in a state of disbelief to an extent that he felt ashamed and found the experience humiliating and embarrassing. The day after the incident he even considered whether or not he wished to continue as a referee." Jimmies treasurer Richard Hickson told the hearing the club had a long-standing tradition of people not wearing underwear after a specific time of the day. He said the club, which admitted the allegations, deeply regretted that the referees were subjected to discomfort and humiliation. The report stated that the club was "known for its hospitality and friendliness towards visiting clubs and officials", was "highly regarded in the community" and "known for its fair play and sportsmanship". "The club had never been before the constituent body for any non-playing disciplinary conduct," it added. Finding the club guilty of misconduct, the RFU said: "The visiting referees had been subjected to a humiliating and degrading act, namely the forcible removal of their underwear without their trousers being removed. "They had their underwear/boxer shorts ripped off. This was physical assault. They all felt humiliated and degraded. The panel accepted the club was contrite and had taken the matter very seriously. "The panel was mindful of the RFU's core values, which include respect and discipline, and, while some horseplay and barroom activities do take place, there is a line beyond which clubs and players should not cross. "On this occasion, the players crossed the line, and subjected the referees to a humiliating experience which showed a lack of respect and self-discipline." The act of removing a person's underwear while they are still wearing trousers is often called "debagging" or giving a "flying wedgie". Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/red-card-Rugby-club-slapped-pound-1-000-fine/story-20724907-detail/story.html#ixzz2ubtwtX7R
Langston Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Not at all surprised - they're a dense bunch, the rugby lot.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 lol I'm sorry but that's just funny as anything. Imagine being informed of a "no underwear rule" Rugby Clubs are just different, the refs will have been through this in the past, I doubt they are really that bothered despite it saying so. I only ever did two rugby tours and that was enough for me, all first timers were marched on stage bollock naked to be bid for by the rest of the team to carry drinks for the whole tour, nightmare. I won;t even go into the games played, wickets, skittles, freckles, all would disgust any normal person.
ealingfox Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 The sooner men involved in rugby feel they can be comfortable enough with their homosexuality to stop using rugby as an outlet and a barrier to hide behind the better, and then we can just get rid of rugby once and for all.
StanSP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 That's just weird. There was one rugby initiation test at the uni I went to which was just fvcked up, too. Swim down the shallow river running through it and then get pissed on by the senior members of the team while you're fully naked. So glad I wasn't part of that. Just disgusting, whether it's the norm or not!
davieG Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 lol I'm sorry but that's just funny as anything. Imagine being informed of a "no underwear rule" Rugby Clubs are just different, the refs will have been through this in the past, I doubt they are really that bothered despite it saying so. I only ever did two rugby tours and that was enough for me, all first timers were marched on stage bollock naked to be bid for by the rest of the team to carry drinks for the whole tour, nightmare. I won;t even go into the games played, wickets, skittles, freckles, all would disgust any normal person. I nearly posted it in the amusing news topic but the refs seem to be more than annoyed as surely it was them that complained "The RFU held the disciplinary hearing after the referees complained about the incident" It does smack of typical rugby shenanigans but i still reckon if it was football players it would be all over the national media.
Finnegan Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 lol lol!!!!! Oh rugby. I actually know a bloke who actually plays and refs out that way, I'm going to have to ask.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 I nearly posted it in the amusing news topic but the refs seem to be more than annoyed as surely it was them that complained "The RFU held the disciplinary hearing after the referees complained about the incident" It does smack of typical rugby shenanigans but i still reckon if it was football players it would be all over the national media. Wouldn't disagree. Cricketers are often just as and and both get portrayed as angels in the media. I remember one tour and if you got a golden duck when you went to bed you know something in your bedroom would have been shat in by various members of the team, not pleasant when you put your head down after 12 pints and it's your pillow.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 I actually can't stop giggling here, the thought of a couple of referees having a few pints being confronted with a no underwear rule, then being wrestled to the ground and having their boxers removed is just too funny.
DennisNedry Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 I actually can't stop giggling here, the thought of a couple of referees having a few pints being confronted with a no underwear rule, then being wrestled to the ground and having their boxers removed is just too funny. Sounds a bit gay to me.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Sounds a bit gay to me. Rugby is very gay.
davieG Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 Comment on the Merc page Mr---B | February 28 2014, 10:08AM I think The Mercury needs to get the facts right before publishing this on the front page. The club will not be docked points next season. Also maybe they should publish the photo of the drunk referee taking part in destroying another players coat at the club. Oh and MrBud you ain't got a clue. Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/red-card-Rugby-club-slapped-pound-1-000-fine/story-20724907-detail/story.html#comments#ixzz2ucJdaMVP
Soar Fox Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Most rugby lads are dickheads. I had a bit of trouble with 2 Belgrave rugby players a couple weeks ago in Fan Club who thought they were being funny. I've now got the whole team after me apparently after what happened
Foxhateram Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 The worlds gone bloody soft! Things like this happen all the time at football and rugby! It's just a joke FFS! Why are people so quick to take themselves so seriously nowadays and complain. Get the feck on with it! "Ooh you called me a name and pulled my pants down ooh you ashamed me" pansies! Having reffed football many times, many decision against the opposition at their home grounds would lead to the fans trying to pull your shorts down. It's a joke FFS! Don't become a ref if you can't take a bit of banter and be with the spirit of the game. Grow up.
Donut Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Rugby is a shit minority sport played by, and watched by twats.
Finnegan Posted 1 March 2014 Posted 1 March 2014 Rugby is a shit minority sport played by, and watched by twats.
Filbert_Ross Posted 1 March 2014 Posted 1 March 2014 Rugby is a shit minority sport played by, and watched by twats. Nail on the head.
Fox92 Posted 1 March 2014 Posted 1 March 2014 I hate the standard "Rugby players are real men" comment. If I had £1 for everytime I heard that.
MooseBreath Posted 1 March 2014 Posted 1 March 2014 I understand rugby players and fans only like the sport for the opportunity to engage in clandestine homosexuality and referees must be complicit, but when you're assaulting people to get your fix of cock action it's surely time to come out of the closet.
Kitchandro Posted 1 March 2014 Posted 1 March 2014 The worlds gone bloody soft! Things like this happen all the time at football and rugby! It's just a joke FFS! Why are people so quick to take themselves so seriously nowadays and complain. Get the feck on with it! "Ooh you called me a name and pulled my pants down ooh you ashamed me" pansies! Having reffed football many times, many decision against the opposition at their home grounds would lead to the fans trying to pull your shorts down. It's a joke FFS! Don't become a ref if you can't take a bit of banter and be with the spirit of the game. Grow up. Come off it. Imagine if they did this to a woman. Doing it to one of your mates is one thing, doing it to some poor unsuspecting bloke who doesn't know you is another. It's a funny story but if it happened to me I'd be a bit pissed off. It's borderline sexual assault.
Father Ted Posted 2 March 2014 Posted 2 March 2014 The majority of rugby players are utter helmets like this, not surprised in the slightest.
Ashley Posted 2 March 2014 Posted 2 March 2014 This is our home good for Sunday football they are a good bunch up jimmies.
Bert Posted 2 March 2014 Posted 2 March 2014 I hate the standard "Rugby players are real men" comment. If I had £1 for everytime I heard that.Does my head in too. There are some great athletes in the game and at the highest level some incredibly skillful individuals. But because they get stamped on, tackled hard and look tough, they're "real men".
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