Peaches Geldof.

[ozleicester]

So the family of a man who dies after falling off a ladder, for example, should have to pay for his inquest to get the answers and closure they need? Absolutely laughable idea.

 

Inquests aren't there to apportion blame to any party, they're there to find out what happened.

 

 

We can simply disagree.

 

The man fell off a ladder. If it is thought to be criminal the police can look into the matter, if not does it matter? the guy's dead. Seems closure as final as a family could need. To me it seems to be another case of the blame culture that we are sinking into. That however seems irrelevant when talking about who should pay for it. The family wants closure then pay for it. Why should someone who has no interest in finding out have to pay for something of no importance? If we, as a society believe they should then why shouldn't those who have money to pay for it, pay for it? Those that don't can continue to get state handouts in order to do so.

 

IMO completely pointless and a further sign of western society's slide into decadence, as I said we can simply disagree.

 

Inquests are essential.

 

Was he pushed?

was he drunk?

Was the ladder faulty?, 

 

We need to investigate to possibly prevent other ladder deaths,

[Voll Blau]

Besides, can you imagine if Peaches Geldof's family decided they didn't want an inquest because they wanted to keep the nature of her death secret? Same people moaning about the cost to the taxpayer would be moaning the details should be released in the public interest anyway.

[Guest]

Besides, can you imagine if Peaches Geldof's family decided they didn't want an inquest because they wanted to keep the nature of her death secret? Same people moaning about the cost to the taxpayer would be moaning the details should be released in the public interest anyway.

 

Surely we'd have to give a **** in order to "moan" about it.

 

p.s. I don't pay taxes in Britain.

[Fox92]

How I wish I could live in your perfect world.

 

I don't get this, really. Plenty of people die from drugs - and if it's someone on the street then they're just another "drug addict" - yet we should have sympathy for young Peaches? No chance. She had young children ffs, and it's them I have sympathy for. No mother.

[ADK]

I have sympathy for anyone who dies due to drug addiction. Rather than blaming the victims we ought to be more tough on the people who supply the drugs.

[Jon the Hat]

The baby was alone for up to 17 hours according to the Metro.  What was the dad doing?  He knew his wife was a Heroin addict, couldn't get hold of her, and waited till lunchtime the following day to go home and check on them.  He must feel like a right chump.

[Guest]

I have sympathy for anyone who dies due to drug addiction. Rather than blaming the victims we ought to be more tough on the people who supply the drugs.

 

Everyone's a victim.

 

People should take responsibility for their own actions.

 

She chose to take heroin and she was actually intelligent enough to know and understand the consequences. In fact she would be pretty sure that she would die from it.

 

Seems a better argument for sterilisation of morons to me.

[Tommy G]

Amazing how many people reacted to this death at the time with sympathy, she's a junkie and thats it. Only famous because of her dad. Feel sorry for the kids big time.

[Raj]

The baby was alone for up to 17 hours according to the Metro. What was the dad doing? He knew his wife was a Heroin addict, couldn't get hold of her, and waited till lunchtime the following day to go home and check on them. He must feel like a right chump.

True??

thats fooking disgrace.

i personally couldnt give a fook about her.

fook the pc brigade!

[Buce]

Seems a better argument for sterilisation of morons to me.

This forum would be gone in a generation, if that was the case.

[Rincewind]

If it had been a mother in a poorer area the kids may have been taken away by social services. Or at least a neighbour would be worried about them to call SS.  If no one picked up on her condition then they would not know why she took heroin.

I too have little sympathy but it is obvious she may have had problems no one knew about or ignored.

[Guest]

If it had been a mother in a poorer area the kids may have been taken away by social services. Or at least a neighbour would be worried about them to call SS.  If no one picked up on her condition then they would not know why she took heroin.

I too have little sympathy but it is obvious she may have had problems no one knew about or ignored.

 

This is Peaches Geldof - Everyone knew that she would have and did have problems.

 

Her parents were Bob and Paula.

[Fox92]

I have sympathy for anyone who dies due to drug addiction. Rather than blaming the victims we ought to be more tough on the people who supply the drugs.

 

I agree cutting out the people who supply the drugs, but I don't have sympathy. We all receive the same education about drugs and people know the circumstances of taking them/getting addicted, people know it's an addiction and we all know death can occur.

[Rincewind]

This is Peaches Geldof - Everyone knew that she would have and did have problems.

 

Her parents were Bob and Paula.

Maybe but the people she knew would not be the sort who would sit on the front step chatting about being unemployed. They may have indulged too

[Guest]

Maybe but the people she knew would not be the sort who would sit on the front step chatting about being unemployed. They may have indulged too

 

So? What's your point?

[Rincewind]

So? What's your point?

Never mind. I am agreeing that there was no need for her to be like she was. Money, agood circle of friends and as far as we can assertain no other worries; It is a lot easier to have self control when there are fewer barriers in your way.

[AoWW]

Never mind. I am agreeing that there was no need for her to be like she was. Money, agood circle of friends and as far as we can assertain no other worries; It is a lot easier to have self control when there are fewer barriers in your way.

 

Hmm, debatable.  

[davieG]

Considering her mother died of an heroin overdose and how badly she said it affected her what on earth made her take the stuff in the first place. i can only think there must have been an element of self destruction caused by her mother's death.

 

Maybe there's a similarity between this and people that are abused that then go on and abuse someone else.

 

One things for sure the mind/brain is an extremely complicated organ so trying to work out cause and effect of people's actions is nigh on impossible.

Never mind. I am agreeing that there was no need for her to be like she was. Money, agood circle of friends and as far as we can assertain no other worries; It is a lot easier to have self control when there are fewer barriers in your way.

Or harder if there are more temptations in your way.

[Rincewind]

Considering her mother died of an heroin overdose and how badly she said it affected her what on earth made her take the stuff in the first place. i can only think there must have been an element of self destruction caused by her mother's death.

 

Maybe there's a similarity between this and people that are abused that then go on and abuse someone else.

 

One things for sure the mind/brain is an extremely complicated organ so trying to work out cause and effect of people's actions is nigh on impossible.

Or harder if there are more temptations in your way.

Yes another way of putting it. Talking to a young lad the other day who refused to be put up at thr

e Dawn Centre. He said that you do not know who has the bed next to you and in the middle of the night they could stick a needle in you when asleep.

It works both ways. if your life is shit you take the eady way out and if you have most things and bored you experiment. But as a mother she should have put the kids first. The human mind is indeed a mystery still.