casablancas Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 OD'd makes it sound like she was a junky who was taking recreational drugs and over did it.. .she might of been depressed and committed suicide by sleeping pills etc.. they are still drugs.. any kind injury on the body and the police would not of committed to "no suspicious circumstances" till after the post mortem. Od'd makes it sound like she over dosed. Whether it be; heroin, pracetamol, fluoxetine, diazepam or zopiclone it's still an overdose. I don't know the circumstances but it's tragic circumstances and left two young children without the love of a mother.
Bert Posted 8 April 2014 Author Posted 8 April 2014 5 posters assuming it's drugs related - based on what? Her mum was a drug addict, so she must be as well? ****ing hell. If my mum died of a drug overdose, then I can guarentee I wouldn't even ****ing touch them.She's had previous though.... Either way wouldn't say I was assuming as such just hoping that it wasn't drugs.
Soup Posted 11 April 2014 Posted 11 April 2014 I wonder how many other people died that day.A complete nobody really,didn't deserve any air time.A shame for her family that's it,think I flicked over to you've been framed when on the news.
Guest MattP Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 Died of a Heroin overdose according to the Times tomorrow.
Strokes Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 Died of a Heroin overdose according to the Times tomorrow.Hardly a suprise if true, a nice thing to do in front of children.
Guest MattP Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 Hardly a suprise if true, a nice thing to do in front of children. Terrible stuff really.
Alf Bentley Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 Died of a Heroin overdose according to the Times tomorrow. This is being reported across all media from Mail to Indie via NME now, so I assume there's been a credible leak from the inquest (itself rather sordid - presumably someone got a few quid for that leak). The NME is suggesting that she'd developed some sort of obsession with her dead mother, Paula Yates (what grounds they have for claiming this, aside from Twitter photos, I don't know). If there's any truth in that, it's tragic, desperate stuff. So, someone with 2 very young, dependent children and everything to live for couldn't escape those sort of negative thoughts and that sort of downward spiral. Shockingly awful, if true.
MikeyT Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/peaches-geldof-died-of-heroin-overdose-9309048.html
Fox92 Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 5 posters assuming it's drugs related - based on what? Her mum was a drug addict, so she must be as well? ****ing hell. If my mum died of a drug overdose, then I can guarentee I wouldn't even ****ing touch them. Our assumptions were correct http://news.sky.com/story/1252837/peaches-geldof-died-of-a-heroin-overdose Peaches Geldof 'Died Of A Heroin Overdose' Today's inquest will reportedly be told the 25-year-old died of a drug overdose - just like her mother Paula Yates.
broughtonblue Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 I was quick to think at the time it had to be drugs and how stupid she was, but on reflection, I have no idea how seeing my mum die from an overdose would affect me mentally! I know there are numerous councellors and support groups out there but in the end it's the individual who has to get their head round it, perhaps even after all this time that wasn't possible? Feel for the people left behind, they probably thinking 'why didn't I see this coming?'
Buce Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 Drug addiction is usually another facet of mental health issues. Who knows what went on in the privacy of her mind? Tragic for all concerned.
Guest MattP Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 I think we are getting into a dangerous game blaming everything people do on mental health issues. How about some personal responsibility? She had kids and she's jacking up heroin? She should be ashamed. So selfish.
Dan Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 Well if that's true then shame on her. No sympathy. Why should there be? I think we are getting into a dangerous game blaming everything people do on mental health issues.How about some personal responsibility? She had kids and she's jacking up heroin? She should be ashamed. So selfish. I'm convinced you could do literally anything nowadays and some people will make excuses for you. I don't get it.
kingcarr21 Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 if it does turn out it was a heroin overdose then shame on her. 2 young kids that depend on her and she still takes drugs. Disgraceful.
Fox92 Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 I think we are getting into a dangerous game blaming everything people do on mental health issues. How about some personal responsibility? She had kids and she's jacking up heroin? She should be ashamed. So selfish. Totally agree there, it seems to be quite regular these days.
maynefox Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 I don't really have any sympathy for her death; sympathy for her children and partner! I understand losing your mum would be horrible. However, to excuse that for drug abuse is not going to buy it with me. One chooses the path of drug abuses and of their own accord. I was talking to someone about it last night, who said I should be more sympathetic towards her as people "act in different ways" - that's true, we all act differently to the death of our loved ones/parents divorce - but we are talking about a responsible adult who (correct me if wrong) was having heroin the day before her kids birthday?! WTF.We all have tough times in life, some more than others, but people who are on this sympathetic media-bandwagon need to see that she had RESPONSIBILITY as a parent etc.Others say she couldn't handle the fame. I don't buy that as an excuse to overdose on heroin too! Half these lot have more money than sense.Last point, makes me question society when people my age (late teens) care more about a crackhead celeb dying than, say a little girl in Iraq getting blown up by an IED.It's a tad sad but hey, regardless of her manic depression, we all face shiTT times in life; she (no one esle) chose the path of doing drugs to a point she killed herself. We all have a responsibility to others and to ourselves - she did not!
Captain... Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 I'm convinced you could do literally anything nowadays and some people will make excuses for you. I don't get it. Why is it necessarily an excuse, we are constantly trying to find a cause for things like this, no normal person would take smack in front of their kids, so does that mean they have a mental deficiency, they deviate from the norm. Is this something caused by trauma or drug use from a younger age. To try an find reasons and cause behind irrational and abnormal behaviour is not excusing it, but it may help us understand, identify it and help people who are troubled and likely to harm themselves or other people. If there is a link between mental health and drugs we should explore it and not just dismiss it as looking for an excuse for someone doing something. It is not excusing her for dying in a stupid and selfish way, leaving her small kids motherless, by saying her OD was because she had mental health problems, it is trying to find reason and cause and better understand the fragile human psyche, and specifically our relationship with drugs. Cause and effect, she had mental health problems, not surprising considering her family history, and started taking drugs or she took drugs and that caused her mental health problems, or most likely some grey area in between. It is not going to advance anyone's understanding to just dismiss it as a stupid junkie OD.
pSinatra Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 Why has it taken 4 weeks to establish that she died of a heroin overdose? Is that a normal time period? Seems to me she has been given special attention & I can't understand why? If your average smackhead had died, would it have taken 4 weeks?
Buce Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. We have no idea of what may have tormented her so, that she could only find release in drug abuse. @MattP: Excuse me if I'm wrong, Matt, but I'm sure you have admitted to using cocaine; how does that sit with your moral high-handedness?
MPH Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 Why has it taken 4 weeks to establish that she died of a heroin overdose? Is that a normal time period? Seems to me she has been given special attention & I can't understand why? If your average smackhead had died, would it have taken 4 weeks? It can take longer than 4 weeks to get a toxicology report. Mainly because the clinics that can test on congealed blood ( people who are dead) are small and have a backlog of work. Can often take twice as long...
MPH Posted 1 May 2014 Posted 1 May 2014 Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. We have no idea of what may have tormented her so, that she could only find release in drug abuse. @MattP: Excuse me if I'm wrong, Matt, but I'm sure you have admitted to using cocaine; how does that sit with your moral high-handedness? There are many people who lost parents at a young age- probably a few on here. My friend did too- he hasnt turned to drugs.She had money, relative fame, kids, a husband who doted on her... a large house fully paid for...you're right, there are many who would LOVE TO of walked in that...
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