Should WAGS and Families be on the pitch?

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Stupid question.

 

Did you not see how fit some of them were?

Boring hell. Did it 'ruin' your ickle day out?

No but it may ruin your next season - your profile photo has been sent to the club.....

[fleckneymike]

can i just ask those who invaded the pitch... Why? Valid reasons please. I am just trying to enter the mindset of those who did to try to understand what I have overlooked and why I don't get the urge to do it. Honestly chaps I am really struggling to understand why.

 

What did you gain from it? You would know players would have to run off. You would know it would impact on the celebrations. You should know that if all 30,000k fans did it, people would get injured and there could be deaths. Your view of the celebrations is not as good as being higher up. Someone please give me something tangible to help me get my head around it. 

 

NB I suppose I should answer the question -  in 40 years time when we are all dead or dying, it will be the kids of today keeping football alive, Footballers earn stupid money doing something they enjoy and I am jealous! But they are just people deep down like you and me that got lucky (with a lot of hard work still) this lot just got us to the promised land -  heck yes they should celebrate with people close to them, in the place where they need to be - on the pitch -  the same way we should celebrate with people close to us...... In the stands. 

 

I think you are being slightly hysterical with that statement. The chance of injuries I'd think we'd all agree with (fan hospitalised at Huddersfield, steward injured yesterday, woman injured) but claiming a death is likely is unfair on those who went on the pitch 

[MGLCFC]

This subject bores me now, ok the day was all about the players, their families and the clubs way of celebrating.

The modern fan, sorry fan stands for fanatics, should say supporters, are so liberal all enjoyment from the lowly supporters shouldn't matter, unless it's planned by the powers that be.

Ok it's was nice to bounce back from a league that we had never been in before, but not quite the achievement of making it back to the premier league.

This forum makes me laugh, all this being made out to be an invasion by thousands of hooligans, not excited football fans, glad none of you attended the Italian cup final, the health and safety, let's do it nicely brigade wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

And if seeing the trophy at a distance is what you want, they are parading around leicester today, that comment has been used as a reason the fun was spoilt, you will get a closer look today.

If people are so liberal, then that infers they would allow pitch invasions - liberal minded people are less inclined to agree with the establishment

 

Don't suppose you've thought that some people, i.e disabled, elderly and infirm a) can't physically get on the pitch b) why should they have to wait until today. Those who invaded the pitch did it after they had seen the players pass them. Again a selfish response - I've seen what I want to see, sod everyone else.

 

No one is suggesting people are hooligans, more than showing a lack of consideration for fellow fans. If you wanted to go on the pitch, why not wait until the players and their families had completed the full lap?

[fleckneymike]

No but it may ruin your next season - your profile photo has been sent to the club.....

 

****, Danny Drinkwater will get a ban!

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

All comes down to modern selfishness

[Bagworthblue]

I think you are being slightly hysterical with that statement. The chance of injuries I'd think we'd all agree with (fan hospitalised at Huddersfield, Steward injured yesterday, woman injured) but claiming a death is likely is unfair on those who went on the pitch 

Yeah I suppose people getting injured is fine - apologies

[Monsell1976]

I don't see the pitch invasion as some political statement of reclaiming what it means to be a 'fan'. The pitch invasion is a much of a cliche as goal music, the mexican wave and kissing the badge.

The comparison you make with the Italian game misses the point, the 'complaint' from many is simply that the timing of the 'invasion' meant that many supporters didn't get the opportunity to see the trophy (albeit at some considerable distance) and applaud the players as they passed by with their wives and families. The second issue is that although no 'hooligan' intent was meant by those 'invading' the pitch, the small children who were on the pitch (whether we feel they should have been or not is irrelevant, the fact is they were) were put at risk just because of the potential for an accident as people ran across the field of play.

Wasn't a political statement, just a comment on the liberal attitude around at the moment, and health and safety attitude of supporters, or some.

I agreed it would have been scary for the little ones, some think they should have been there, some don't, but that was a choice of the parent, to decide what the risks was.

Also this thing about seeing the trophy, as has been stated by others, the players walked around talking to their families, and not lifting the trophy to the crowd, so wasn't a lot to see anyway.

[MGLCFC]

Who gives a shit about Dean Hammonds kids? Or anybody else's for that matter?

 

What sort of statement is this - I would ask ' As a parent is the safety of children not the most important thing in life'. If not, there's something wrong with you. So Master Fox, perhaps that infers you are a juvenile, start growing up a little quickly and have a bit of respect for fellow human beings.

[MGLCFC]

Wasn't a political statement, just a comment on the liberal attitude around at the moment, and health and safety attitude of supporters, or some.

I agreed it would have been scary for the little ones, some think they should have been there, some don't, but that was a choice of the parent, to decide what the risks was.

Also this thing about seeing the trophy, as has been stated by others, the players walked around talking to their families, and not lifting the trophy to the crowd, so wasn't a lot to see anyway.

 But Monsell, being liberal with a small l isn't a political statement, it's a reference to people who have liberal views that is more lenient and less establishment.

 

It's irrelevant whether there was a lot to see - why did a significant number of supporters not have the chance to witness what others had the chance to and applaud their team.

 

Was it the choice of the parents - the club will have agreed to this as it has been a tradition for years. Invading the pitch during the parade hasn't.

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

Wasn't a political statement, just a comment on the liberal attitude around at the moment, and health and safety attitude of supporters, or some.

I agreed it would have been scary for the little ones, some think they should have been there, some don't, but that was a choice of the parent, to decide what the risks was.

Also this thing about seeing the trophy, as has been stated by others, the players walked around talking to their families, and not lifting the trophy to the crowd, so wasn't a lot to see anyway.

You need to look up the definition of "liberal"

[Guest MattP]

Nope

I have no interest in seeing women and children with nothing to do with the club mooching along in a trophy parade.

Frankly I find it a bit weird. Another thing that can be blamed on Dennis Wise, he was the first one to do it.

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

Nope

I have no interest in seeing women and children with nothing to do with the club mooching along in a trophy parade.

Frankly I find it a bit weird. Another thing that can be blamed on Dennis Wise, he was the first one to do it.

I find peoples obsession with running on the pitch weird but hey ho

[NewburyFox]

Is it just me who actually enjoys seeing the players' families? It makes me feel like I know a little more about them, thus feel closer to them. Does anybody remember a couple of years back when Wellens' young kid got the ball and dribbled it into the goal? That was a great moment. Perhaps the trophy should've been paraded more, but the players want them there and that's enough for me.

[hackneyfox]

I don't care about the players families, I wanted to see the squad walk round together showing the trophy off to the fans, instead I saw a few players walk past with their families, then a few more then had to wait ages for the trophy to go past which was just being carried by Moore rather than being presented to the fans. The Club did everything else right on the day I just think they got this wrong by following what has become a tradition over the last few years.

I support Leicester, then the players and managers, the familes don't even come into it.

[Vlad the Fox]

can i just ask those who invaded the pitch... Why? Valid reasons please. I am just trying to enter the mindset of those who did to try to understand what I have overlooked and why I don't get the urge to do it. Honestly chaps I am really struggling to understand why.

 

What did you gain from it? You would know players would have to run off. You would know it would impact on the celebrations. You should know that if all 30,000k fans did it, people would get injured and there could be deaths. Your view of the celebrations is not as good as being higher up. Someone please give me something tangible to help me get my head around it. 

 

NB I suppose I should answer the question -  in 40 years time when we are all dead or dying, it will be the kids of today keeping football alive, Footballers earn stupid money doing something they enjoy and I am jealous! But they are just people deep down like you and me that got lucky (with a lot of hard work still) this lot just got us to the promised land -  heck yes they should celebrate with people close to them, in the place where they need to be - on the pitch -  the same way we should celebrate with people close to us...... In the stands.

I've been a huge fan for as long as I can remember. I've watched some great teams and some shit teams, seen great players and poor players, witnessed joy and heartbreak. That 'piece of grass' has given me some of the happiest and intense highs and some of the most shattering lows in my life. As you grow up and have a mortgage and family, priorities in life change but that passion never dies. I didn't go on for photos with the players, they were off by the time a ambled on anyway. I went on for a perspective, to see what it must feel like for those players to be surrounded by four stands with thousands of fans in, the feel of the pitch, the smell of the grass, to celebrate, an experience for my kids and because I was bloody happy.

[Harry - LCFC]

People moan about loyalty and players meaning nothing these days and that the fans and the club are the most important thing. So why do you think you have the right to have the players be at your service on a day like today that they have earned and worked for? It is just as much their time as it is ours whether you want to have a tantrum about it or not.

 

I'm having a tantrum am I? Or am I calmly criticising what I see? Maybe I should accuse you of doing the same?

 

I don't think I need to add anything to what I already said. A dinner would be a more appropriate way of celebrating with their families. I'm not taking that away from them.

 

 

Again I feel this misses the point.

 

What it is 'supposed' to be and what it was are two entirely separate things. As soon as wives and children are on the pitch then I feel you should and must change your behaviour accordingly.

 

Meh, chicken and egg. I don't think the families should've been on the pitch but nor do I think the fans should've gone given that they were. (Hope that made sense).

 

It's perfectly ok to hold both opinions.

 

 

Are the players partners not supporters? Surely they are full time supporters of the players?

Any right thinking person tends to care about children ?

 

I don't think so. They have a very different relationship with the players.

 

I care when Leicester score because they're my club, they care when Leicester score because they want their brother, son etc. to succeed.

[Brizzle Fox]

Maybe it's a generational thing but I can't understand this relatively recent fad for families on the pitch. Were they the one's who achieved such a successful season on the pitch. No.

Actually maybe I'm missing out. I've just finished a highly successful year at work myself might take the wife and son in with me tomorrow and parade them around the office.

The older I get the less I understand about "modern football". Bah humbug etc

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

I don't care about the players families, I wanted to see the squad walk round together showing the trophy off to the fans, instead I saw a few players walk past with their families, then a few more then had to wait ages for the trophy to go past which was just being carried by Moore rather than being presented to the fans. The Club did everything else right on the day I just think they got this wrong by following what has become a tradition over the last few years.

I support Leicester, then the players and managers, the familes don't even come into it.

Why should the players bow to your selfish need?

There is a parade today where you can see the trophy being shown off

[gcah2013]

When my brother gets his promotion to manager at Ladbrokes, do I get to walk with him on a lap of honour around the shop? Get the betting public to all stand, clapping and cheering. It is times like this that I think football and it's fans need to get some perspective.

 

Many of us work more hours in a week than footballers. Most of us don't have the same amount of holidays they get. There are a high number on this forum that earn less in a year than, say, David Nugent does in a year. I appreciate what every player has done this season but they are no more special than my brother - he gets on with his job and won't send tweets if a lap of honour isn't arranged for him and his family.

[Soar Fox]

Who gives a shit about Dean Hammonds kids? Or anybody else's for that matter?

So kids are frightened, but at least you enjoyed yourself though right.

Some of the grown men I saw running on the pitch jumping up and down in that 1st pitch invasion was quite frankly embarrassing.

Also I think a lot of people are forgetting a steward got injured and required medical attention due to the 2nd pitch imvasion.

[fleckneymike]

Wasn't a political statement, just a comment on the liberal attitude around at the moment, and health and safety attitude of supporters, or some.

I agreed it would have been scary for the little ones, some think they should have been there, some don't, but that was a choice of the parent, to decide what the risks was.

Also this thing about seeing the trophy, as has been stated by others, the players walked around talking to their families, and not lifting the trophy to the crowd, so wasn't a lot to see anyway.

 

Once they had decided that taking their child on the pitch for a lap of honour was ok the 'choice' was then ours as to whether we still 'invaded' the pitch and potentially frighten very small children. 

 

If the choice the players had been given was 'would you like to to take your children onto the pitch with a few thousand fans?' then I'd agree that any risk the child faced would be entirely the fault of the parent, however the choice the players were given was to take their child onto the pitch whilst supporters applauded from the stands. The club attempted to minimise the risk of encroachment by asking us not to invade the pitch and also then placing stewards around the pitch.

[LCFC2429]

not its the fault of the morons that can't do 1 simple thing and stay off the pitch to let the players go around, having their family there for that lap after the final home game is a tradition, I would piss myself if all the season ticket holders that went on got banned, they'd never have the balls to do it though

Boring old sad man

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

So much jealousy from people

[Master Fox]

What sort of statement is this - I would ask ' As a parent is the safety of children not the most important thing in life'. If not, there's something wrong with you. So Master Fox, perhaps that infers you are a juvenile, start growing up a little quickly and have a bit of respect for fellow human beings.

 

A rational one. 

 

First all of, the parents decided to parade their families around the pitch for everyone to gawp at like some kind of rich fantasy world freak show where paupers 'the fans' aren't actually part of. 

 

I think the over reaction is hilarious. How many people got hurt? None. A few kids got a little bit frightened. So what? Kids are stupid and get frightened by the smallest of things. Maybe, just maybe, if your little twerp kid wasn't such a gaylord and scared of big crowds, you probably might have considered it a better option leaving it in the directors lounge with Mummy. 

[Clarkielcfc]

Everyone has there own opinions about all of this...but surely the fans that went on whilst the small children etc were on the pitch, how would they find it, if they are walking with there own small children and hundreds of people started charging towards them? Pretty sure, they would all grab the children and leg it and not be pleased about it one bit?