European Election Results

[purpleronnie]

Fantastic seeing the country turning purple

I've always been a trendsetter.

[ADK]

If you were happy with the status quo then why wouldn't you vote against the widely predicted UKIP victory?

 

Most likely because people knew it wouldn't matter too much and couldn't be bothered.

[l444ry]

The truth is that people who are happy with the status quo probably couldn't be bothered to go to the polling station.

Think this is probably right. People with extreme views or an axe to grind tend to turn out for polls like this. That said, contrary to BBC UKIP TV, it's hardly the earthquake they keep endlessly harping on about. UKIP got 2% more votes than  an "unelectable" Labour Party (whose share of the vote rose 9%). It's Cameron that should be facing the flack.

[Guest MattP]

Think this is probably right. People with extreme views or an axe to grind tend to turn out for polls like this. That said, contrary to BBC UKIP TV, it's hardly the earthquake they keep endlessly harping on about. UKIP got 2% more votes than  an "unelectable" Labour Party (whose share of the vote rose 9%). It's Cameron that should be facing the flack.

 

You tell them mate.

 

Red Ed is doing a blinding job, the country is flocking to vote for him and it's Cameron who should be worried.

 

Miliband has to be given the time to see through the whole five year term until 2015, I think he is playing an absolute blinder, in fact, even if he doesn't win next year, I think he's shown enough along with Ed Balls to be given another five years until the 2020 election.

[Strokes]

Think this is probably right. People with extreme views or an axe to grind tend to turn out for polls like this. That said, contrary to BBC UKIP TV, it's hardly the earthquake they keep endlessly harping on about. UKIP got 2% more votes than an "unelectable" Labour Party (whose share of the vote rose 9%). It's Cameron that should be facing the flack.

, who are you trying to con?

[Guest MattP]

If the main parties engaged in smear campaigns this time, then they clearly didn't work, so they'd be stupid to so in future without clear evidence and relevant accusations.

 

Likewise, UKIP would be shooting itself in the foot if it started smearing politicians in other parties. For now, whatever I might think of their politics, they are perceived to have quite a clean "brand" in the eyes of many voters. Those voters see them as a breath of fresh air after the cynicism and corruption of the old parties. Robust defence from the high ground is one thing, but UKIP would be exceptionally stupid to choose to fight dirty. They'll be under greater media scrutiny from now on, so would soon be exposed if they did, and would risk alienating voters that they'd attracted or might attract.

 

It'll be interesting to see what policies they promote on the economy, tax, public services, living standards etc. They'll certainly have to come up with something popular and credible on those subjects, as banging on about Europe and immigration alone won't hack it at the general election. They'll have to give a bit more prominence to spokespeople other than Farage, too, or will risk looking like a 1-man team...though they do have at least 3 or 4 other spokespeople who come across as fairly intelligent and reasonable....they'll just need to keep their more bonkers old buffers safely locked in a saloon bar somewhere chuntering on about Bongo-Bongoland and gay floods to their hearts' content without anyone noticing. 

 

Maybe, but they won't stop, they should have realised ages ago shouting 'racist' over and over does no good. That isn't going to wash when it's clearly a party that seems to attract a lot of ethnic support.

 

Coming away from the one man band might be the hardest thing, in Diane James and Suzanne Jones though they have two fantastic spokespeople who are both capable of taking over from Farage and have made numerous impressive public appearances.

 

I hope they don't hide away all the nutters, the public like a little bit of someone saying something outrgaeous or saying something you don't expect a politician to say, Boris has got elected in liberal London on that, the public don't want to see robots.

The Lib Dems polled so badly because they are the Lib Dems and have committed political suicide over the last few years, not because they are the party of "in", this was a chance to send a clear message that we want out of Europe, two thirds of people didn't bother to vote and of those that did only one third voted for the party of out, despite all the rumoured discontent and huge amounts of publicity UKIP got, even though the majority of it was negative.

 

I do think this and the other votes across Europe will be significant and be a catalyst for change within the EU, but I think the majority of the people in the UK still want us to be part of a united Europe.

 

I think this is a bit of a cop out, the Lib Dems have done badly but it's clearly Clegg that is the problem and thats partly because of the stance he has taken on the EU, I'll bet another thing is that loads of these votes the Lib Dems picked up over the last twenty years in protest they didn't realise just how pro-EU they were as well, hes made sure the whole country knows exactly what they stand for now and they have paid for it.

[l444ry]

You tell them mate.

 

Red Ed is doing a blinding job, the country is flocking to vote for him and it's Cameron who should be worried.

 

Miliband has to be given the time to see through the whole five year term until 2015, I think he is playing an absolute blinder, in fact, even if he doesn't win next year, I think he's shown enough along with Ed Balls to be given another five years until the 2020 election.

Ha ha. Nice wind up attempt. Obviously Miliband should be concerned about UKIP as should all the other Party Leaders. My point is that the BBC have been silent on Cameron and the Tories, the real losers, yet keep up the nonsense that Labour should have done much better as if this is the Holy Grail. Might I remind you that Tony Blair's government polled 22% and the Tories 26% in the last EC Election before his last General Election victory. 

[l444ry]

, who are you trying to con?

Probably the ones you seem to have been conned by Strokes.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

That equates to roughly 0.33% of an increase in population which is quite frankly **** all, even with your claim that it would be much higher it wouldn't be hitting more then 0.5% of an increase due to immigration. Lets just ignore the fact that the vast majority of these would be working and being taxed either taking the shitty jobs most people in this country feel too high and mighty to do or even doing the high profile jobs such as surgeons.

It's not my claim buster, it's on BBC news, today.

 

The "they take shitty jobs" theme, is an old record, and a joke. More of them will be claiming benefit, at the expense of the tax payer.

 

I can sense you are gullible lefty. 

 

Anyway, stuff Europe, UKIP are here.       

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

You tell them mate.

 

Red Ed is doing a blinding job, the country is flocking to vote for him and it's Cameron who should be worried.

 

Miliband has to be given the time to see through the whole five year term until 2015, I think he is playing an absolute blinder, in fact, even if he doesn't win next year, I think he's shown enough along with Ed Balls to be given another five years until the 2020 election.

[Guest MattP]

Ha ha. Nice wind up attempt. Obviously Miliband should be concerned about UKIP as should all the other Party Leaders. My point is that the BBC have been silent on Cameron and the Tories, the real losers, yet keep up the nonsense that Labour should have done much better as if this is the Holy Grail. Might I remind you that Tony Blair's government polled 22% and the Tories 26% in the last EC Election before his last General Election victory. 

 

Bit different that to when you are trYing to gain power though.

 

Here is the result of 1994 when you took power the next time around in a GC.

 

Labour 6,753,863 62 +17 44  

Conservative 4,248,531 18 -13 28  

Liberal Democrat 2,552,730 2 +2

UKIP 150,251

[Strokes]

Ha ha. Nice wind up attempt. Obviously Miliband should be concerned about UKIP as should all the other Party Leaders. My point is that the BBC have been silent on Cameron and the Tories, the real losers, yet keep up the nonsense that Labour should have done much better as if this is the Holy Grail. Might I remind you that Tony Blair's government polled 22% and the Tories 26% in the last EC Election before his last General Election victory.

Do you mean this one when margeret Beckett was acting leader?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_1994_(United_Kingdom)

[Guest MattP]

Do you mean this one when margeret Beckett was acting leader?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_1994_(United_Kingdom)

 

No he means the European Eleection just before Blair won his last one.

 

So Larry is telling us that generally parties still hold onto power in General Elections even if they lose by a small vote in the Euros the year before.

 

Which doesn't bode well for him.

[Nalis]

Simply put, the protest vote has spoken.

Nothing to see here people, move along now...

[Strokes]

No he means the European Eleection just before Blair won his last one.

So Larry is telling us that generally parties still hold onto power in General Elections even if they lose by a small vote in the Euros the year before.

Which doesn't bode well for him.

That's the point I was trying to make but the links not working, damn phone.

It was a very bad night for the left, I'm not suprised they are clutching at straws now. I would be mortified if things were reversed.

[Guest MattP]

Simply put, the protest vote has spoken.

Nothing to see here people, move along now...

 

[Voll Blau]

One of the reasons why UKIP did so well. Morons like you shouting racist at anybody who isn't a Guardian reading socialist. 

 

Edit: The Danish People's Party did very well. I'm sure you think they are worse than Hitler from this statement: 

 

Not sure why anyone would be troubled about the idea of a "multi ethnic" society. "Mutli ethnic" and "multi cultural" are two very different entities.

 

It's not my claim buster, it's on BBC news, today.

 

The "they take shitty jobs" theme, is an old record, and a joke. More of them will be claiming benefit, at the expense of the tax payer.

 

I can sense you are gullible lefty. 

 

Anyway, stuff Europe, UKIP are here.       

 

As a former employee of a well known fast food establishment (pretty shitty job in most people's eyes), I can confirm all my Eastern European colleagues were unbelievably hard working, had a better grasp of English than a lot of their "native" colleagues and wouldn't dream of claiming benefits.

[Guest MattP]

That's the point I was trying to make but the links not working, damn phone.

It was a very bad night for the left, I'm not suprised they are clutching at straws now. I would be mortified if things were reversed.

 

Could be worse, they could be French.

 

The socialists might never get back into power there after what they have done to the nation over the last few years.

[Strokes]

Lets persecute socialists, delicious irony

[Webbo]

Most likely because people knew it wouldn't matter too much and couldn't be bothered.

If you'd have said couldn't be bothered to start with you'd probably be right but trying to say those that didn't vote are happy with Europe is a silly argument. If we get a 60% turnout in the general election can we count the 40% who didn't vote as tories?

[PAPA LAZAROU]

They will vote when it really counts . we shall be out of Europe .

[ADK]

If you'd have said couldn't be bothered to start with you'd probably be right but trying to say those that didn't vote are happy with Europe is a silly argument. If we get a 60% turnout in the general election can we count the 40% who didn't vote as tories?

 

I do believe that people who are anti EU were more likely to vote than those who were ambivalent to the EU. I don't think that is silly.

[benpicko]

Cheerio Griffin. How nice it is to not have you representing my country.

 

Now it's just the closet racists instead

Simply put, the protest vote has spoken.

Nothing to see here people, move along now...

 

Why would you protest vote in the European elections?

[Guest MattP]

Now it's just the closet racists instead

 

Aye, look at this bastard, he got elected last night, I'm sure he was in the NF and BNP before UKIP.

 

[Guest MattP]

Anyone got any thoughts on why no news agency has mentioned that UKIP's Scottish MEP who got elected is openly gay?

 

Just seems a bit weird that everytime I've seen UKIP mentioned the last month they have asked the person being interviewed if they are a homophobe and made umpteen references to a random councillor who made a comments about floods being caused by gays.

 

Just seems this should be far bigger news than it is?