Corky Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 I don't drink as I don't like the taste and don't feel it's worth forcing myself to drink it to fit in, it might seem boring but there's little you can do if the taste of the stuff isn't to your liking. Soft drinks are absolutely fine. I could imagine it's very tough to give up so good on you for giving it a go.
Jimothy Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Remember alcohol is legal, so where is the problem? Have you even read any of the thread?
FoxesAreBlue Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 It's very hard to stop - I only binge drink at weekends but my whole week builds up to Friday night. It's even worse in the football season with pub on Fridays - City on Sat - Sunday League/post match pub on Sundays. I could do with cutting down a bit too to be honest as I have to train by bollocks off to keep in any sort of shape too.
Steven Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Don't be a pr1ck Just pointing out the evils of drink. Seemingly it went over your head. Have you even read any of the thread? Yes I have thank you. Malf needs to want to give up. Once he feels like that it will be relatively easy. If he has doubts then it will be difficult. I stopped drinking when I realised that a gallon wasn't having any effect. Maybe he needs a moment of realisation like that, not just intellectualisation about the problem.
Jimothy Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Just pointing out the evils of drink. Seemingly it went over your head. Yes I have thank you. Malf needs to want to give up. Once he feels like that it will be relatively easy. If he has doubts then it will be difficult. I stopped drinking when I realised that a gallon wasn't having any effect. Maybe he needs a moment of realisation like that, not just intellectualisation about the problem. I just don't get what point you're making about it being legal then. There's many things that can make you ill, especially if you've got a condition, that are perfectly legal. Smoking, spicy food, even bloody bread for some people. But if it's a huge part if your life, especially your social life, it could be a hard decision to let go. Seeing as you've read the thread, and you posted the comment I'm just quoting, I find the legality comment even stranger.
Nalis Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Good luck my friend. Hardest part for me is hanging around with drunk people when sober, could never work in a bar! Also, drinking can be a pain in the ass when you want to just be a bit tipsy/merry, ie, 3/4 pints. Shit thing is though you can only stay on that level for a short while - drink more beer and you head toward tired drunk territory, move onto shorts and you get into very drunk territory, stop drinking and you just get tired...
Guest MattP Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 What fine, disinterested advice! Has he paid off his debts to you from the last time?! lol I wish I was his bookie judging by the stories he has told me! In all seriousness I hope he can do it, when you need to for health reasons its got to be done. Not being a able to have that release though of going to sink a few will be hard and I'm sure he'll need something to fill the void.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 I'm knocking it on the head too now for one reason or other. I'm not a regular drinker- I don't touch a drop during the week cos I like feeling fresh for work, but from memory my sober weekends are brilliant. You get tonnes of stuff around the house done and there is none of this feeling like crap on a Monday morning business either. Embrace it n don't think about it
Stadt Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Reminded me of this, even reading it for a third time had me close to tears http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/78383-fao-ric-flair-or-any-other-suitable-candidates/?hl=scratto#entry2077798
Strokes Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Good luck ric, I don't think there is a formula that covers everyone, you have to do what is right for you. I had to knock boozing on the head after my lad was born, a bit like you I would get so wellied I would end up in a whole world of bother. It was a decision I made without telling anyone and I just used my lad as an excuse to not come out, after about six months I got the itch to drink again. Since then I have found I can control it, I know my limits and I can enjoy a night out without ruining everyone elses. I avoid rounds, drink at a slower rate and have a soft drink every so often but enjoy the night as much, if not more than I used too. I just need to give up smoking now
Ric Flair Posted 24 June 2014 Author Posted 24 June 2014 If last nights dream is anything to go by, this will be a piece of piss. I dreamt i'd knocked it on the head and my mates kidnapped me, took me in to this boozer that I had free reign in and I refused to touch a drop. I did eat 35 bags of crisps though.
Ric Flair Posted 24 June 2014 Author Posted 24 June 2014 Cheers for the advice, i'll be doing a lot of self development in the coming weeks and i'll report back on how i'm getting on. I've just realised i've got The Libertines gig in Hyde Park next weekend, can't a geezer catch a break? I guarantee you I won't booze at that and if I can crack that then I can crack anything. Doherty would be disgusted with me. My focus is on the fact that I run the risk of seriously damaging/killing myself when I get larrupsed. I am getting worse, my behaviour in the last few years is staggering. I don't see how that will change unless I make the change. You can grow out of things or make what looks like a natural change but most of the time you have to work very, very hard at something like that. I can claim i'm going to take it easy and just have a few and not go wild, rather than completely abstaining but that would make me a coward and would completely miss the point of my problem. My guard will be let down at some point and i'll end up steaming again and 9 times out of 10 that'll be fine, i'll just wake up with sick in my eyebrows and a thick head but there's still that odd occasion where i'll absolutely devastate myself and there can't be too many more chances before it's another serious injury or death. I have been close, trust me. I once had 6 double absinthes one after the other and didn't wake up for 2 days. There may come a time when I can acknowledge that i've changed for the better and i've created a life that doesn't revolve around getting garried and I can enjoy a few ice cold ales like they should be enjoyed but until then I don't even deserve a tin of warm skol. I'm getting in to the tea game, pint of darjeeling please love.
Finnegan Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Get yourself on the loose leaf Russian Caravan. Honest to good, mind blowing.
Ric Flair Posted 24 June 2014 Author Posted 24 June 2014 Get yourself on the loose leaf Russian Caravan. Honest to good, mind blowing. I'll be on to this Finners, cheers.
Alf Bentley Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 If last nights dream is anything to go by, this will be a piece of piss. I dreamt i'd knocked it on the head and my mates kidnapped me, took me in to this boozer that I had free reign in and I refused to touch a drop. I did eat 35 bags of crisps though. Cheers for the advice, i'll be doing a lot of self development in the coming weeks and i'll report back on how i'm getting on. I've just realised i've got The Libertines gig in Hyde Park next weekend, can't a geezer catch a break? I guarantee you I won't booze at that and if I can crack that then I can crack anything. Doherty would be disgusted with me. My focus is on the fact that I run the risk of seriously damaging/killing myself when I get larrupsed. [...] I can claim i'm going to take it easy and just have a few and not go wild, rather than completely abstaining but that would make me a coward and would completely miss the point of my problem. My guard will be let down at some point and i'll end up steaming again and 9 times out of 10 that'll be fine, i'll just wake up with sick in my eyebrows and a thick head but there's still that odd occasion where i'll absolutely devastate myself and there can't be too many more chances before it's another serious injury or death. I have been close, trust me. I once had 6 double absinthes one after the other and didn't wake up for 2 days. There may come a time when I can acknowledge that i've changed for the better and i've created a life that doesn't revolve around getting garried and I can enjoy a few ice cold ales like they should be enjoyed but until then I don't even deserve a tin of warm skol. I'm getting in to the tea game, pint of darjeeling please love. From personal experience of stopping the booze in the past, I'd say that there's a hell of a lot that's right about your psychological approach here, at least in the short to medium-term. When I was really serious about stopping the booze, I used to get the odd nightmare about situations in which other people or situations were pressurising me to drink. Must be the subconscious strengthening your resolve, I'd say. Likewise, it's good that you're focusing on that Libertines gig (wish I was going to that myself, btw). So long as my mind was right, when I was off the hooch, I could've walked into a piss-up in a brewery and happily ordered a lime and soda. Publicizing your intentions on here is also a good move (at least, it would have been for me) - using others for self-reinforcement. Might not be a good idea to think too much about those "few ice-cold ales" in the distant future, though....if the distant future starts seeming not so distant in your mind, it might encourage temptation....but maybe you're mentally stronger than I am. Assuming you get through the first few weeks (which I'd expect you to do, judging by your comments), you might need to think a bit about how to tackle potential complacency after you've been off the grog for a few months....but probably no need to think of that for a while yet, if you're concentrating on getting through the early days and making some fundamental life changes. Hope you don't think I'm being patronising, Ric, coming on here as some old git you've never met, offering advice, but not only have I been through this a few times (with varying degrees of success) but it sounds as if your drinking style / motivation is very similar to mine (unpredictable binge drinking for excitement / to get out of it resulting in spectacular pratfalls as opposed to drinking every day or drinking to dull depression or stress, as some people do). If I ever bump into you around LCFC matches, I'll buy you a big pot of Earl Grey and a few sugar lumps - provided that you promise not to snort the tea and inject the sugar.
Ric Flair Posted 24 June 2014 Author Posted 24 June 2014 From personal experience of stopping the booze in the past, I'd say that there's a hell of a lot that's right about your psychological approach here, at least in the short to medium-term. When I was really serious about stopping the booze, I used to get the odd nightmare about situations in which other people or situations were pressurising me to drink. Must be the subconscious strengthening your resolve, I'd say. Likewise, it's good that you're focusing on that Libertines gig (wish I was going to that myself, btw). So long as my mind was right, when I was off the hooch, I could've walked into a piss-up in a brewery and happily ordered a lime and soda. Publicizing your intentions on here is also a good move (at least, it would have been for me) - using others for self-reinforcement. Might not be a good idea to think too much about those "few ice-cold ales" in the distant future, though....if the distant future starts seeming not so distant in your mind, it might encourage temptation....but maybe you're mentally stronger than I am. Assuming you get through the first few weeks (which I'd expect you to do, judging by your comments), you might need to think a bit about how to tackle potential complacency after you've been off the grog for a few months....but probably no need to think of that for a while yet, if you're concentrating on getting through the early days and making some fundamental life changes. Hope you don't think I'm being patronising, Ric, coming on here as some old git you've never met, offering advice, but not only have I been through this a few times (with varying degrees of success) but it sounds as if your drinking style / motivation is very similar to mine (unpredictable binge drinking for excitement / to get out of it resulting in spectacular pratfalls as opposed to drinking every day or drinking to dull depression or stress, as some people do). If I ever bump into you around LCFC matches, I'll buy you a big pot of Earl Grey and a few sugar lumps - provided that you promise not to snort the tea and inject the sugar. Quite the opposite mate, your comments have been reassuring and the exact type of stuff that will help me. I seem to be quite similar in the path you followed in your youth and the fact you've been open about how you've tackled it over the years is refreshing to read and gives me hope I can crack it. I'm a realist and everyone's different but I appreciate your advice. Hahahahaaa my old boy has bought me a season ticket for next season in an attempt to entice me to move back from London. It's actually worked as i'm in the early stages of planning to move back, completely change careers to what I should be doing and i'll be down the City every week that I can!
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Quite the opposite mate, your comments have been reassuring and the exact type of stuff that will help me. I seem to be quite similar in the path you followed in your youth and the fact you've been open about how you've tackled it over the years is refreshing to read and gives me hope I can crack it. I'm a realist and everyone's different but I appreciate your advice. Hahahahaaa my old boy has bought me a season ticket for next season in an attempt to entice me to move back from London. It's actually worked as i'm in the early stages of planning to move back, completely change careers to what I should be doing and i'll be down the City every week that I can! Becks blue pal - its the future! Why are we all so damaged though mate? My missus had me last night "why do you have to drink cans every night?". The obvious answer being "to numb the f**king pain of living with you" but I just like an ale on the sofa watching the football. Obviously this means every night in the early stages of big tournaments!
leicsmac Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Becks blue pal - its the future! Why are we all so damaged though mate? My missus had me last night "why do you have to drink cans every night?". The obvious answer being "to numb the f**king pain of living with you" but I just like an ale on the sofa watching the football. Obviously this means every night in the early stages of big tournaments! Good question...I think the tradition of drinking until utterly shitfaced has been ingrained into British culture for so long that the idea of a drink or three when going out/watching the football/after work is second nature and difficult to shift.
Guest MattP Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Good question...I think the tradition of drinking until utterly shitfaced has been ingrained into British culture for so long that the idea of a drink or three when going out/watching the football/after work is second nature and difficult to shift. The culture is spreading as well. In Estapona last year and you've got young groups of German and Spanish lads always behaving in the 'British way' - ie standing on bars getting totally shitfaced downing jaegerbombs. They appear to have cottoned on just how enjoyable it actually is if you have a solid set of lads as mates.
lgfualol Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 I havent drank in a year, the amount of money I have saved is just beautiful.
leicsmac Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 The culture is spreading as well. In Estapona last year and you've got young groups of German and Spanish lads always behaving in the 'British way' - ie standing on bars getting totally shitfaced downing jaegerbombs. They appear to have cottoned on just how enjoyable it actually is if you have a solid set of lads as mates. Can lead to some epic times, that's for sure. Though I'm beginning to slow up a bit as I feel like shite the morning after more and more often these days. That being said, if for whatever reason I had to go teetotal I think I could do it and still have a pretty good time out with mates. One of the many vices that I have that I could give up if prompted.
Fox92 Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Just pointing out the evils of drink. Seemingly it went over your head. I think, if we got down to it, someone could point out the evils of everything.
BoneDog Posted 25 June 2014 Posted 25 June 2014 I quit for about a year once after I tried to steal a boat on the River Trent one night and thought sod this too much destruction. Mate fell off a bridge the same night and had to have metal plates in his legs/feet. Had no problem quitting, I think it's all in the head, but this was after years of going at it hard so I'd probably naturally worn out the drunken possibilities and the fun had worn off. Some past years are just a blur now and it's a slight regret, but the good times were outstanding at the time. Always suffered with that common problem of once you've had one you can't stop. Started again, but then quit again with no problem. Then started once again at my Grandad's funeral, but now only drink Shandy on the rare sessions out. Had 2 pints without lemonade in a few months back and felt like crap! GOOD LUCK
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 25 June 2014 Posted 25 June 2014 I go thru stages, were i'll not drink for a month or a couple of times 3 months.....it gets a bit boring sometimes you realise how annoying drunk people can be and waking up feeling fresh as a daisy at 6am on a Sunday morning with fook all to do is a strange experience so i started running a fair bit. I've cut back heaps the last few years don't head out much unless it's for a sporting event, gig, catch up with old school mates or someones B'day etc and even then especially during winter it might only be a few beers. Will never drink at home, only go out to have a drink and 99 times out of a 100 it's on the weekend. But it's generally bloody boring not having a drink with the lads, which is why i still do it but only when there is something on.
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