Gubbins Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Sorry, I meant our first game in the FA cup. As if you would want to win the FA cup and get relegated. I'd prefer to establish ourselves in the Premiership more than anything else. Yes winning the FA cup would be good for a few weeks but then getting back out of the Championship would be tough. The idea that we should 'establish' ourselves before trying to win a cup is utterly ridiculous. There is unlikely ever to be a Premier league season where we are guaranteed not to be a few defeats away from entering a relegation scrap, so based on the 'established' theory we should always just opt out of the cups from the get go.
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Knocky as a CM now thats funny I know. Popular opinion on here for some reason though.
Simmo86 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Awkward when you slate James Pearson in a tweet without tagging him in it and he ends up favoriting it :whistle:
Captain... Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Knocky as a CM now thats funny Not as funny as GTF last Saturday. With James and DD injured, we have no other options at CM than King and Hammond an injury or even just cramp on Sunday would leave us with no option to bring on. Trying out Knocky at CM against Shrewsbury would have given us an idea if he had the discipline to play there. Or the Shrewsbury game was a chance for Watson or Cain to push for a place on the bench, but they should have been partnered with King and had more first teamers around them, someone more mobile than GTF dropping back and helping out. Give them a half each, see if either look ready for a place on the bench and looked comfortable in our team. A missed opportunity.
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Not as funny as GTF last Saturday. With James and DD injured, we have no other options at CM than King and Hammond an injury or even just cramp on Sunday would leave us with no option to bring on. Trying out Knocky at CM against Shrewsbury would have given us an idea if he had the discipline to play there. Or the Shrewsbury game was a chance for Watson or Cain to push for a place on the bench, but they should have been partnered with King and had more first teamers around them, someone more mobile than GTF dropping back and helping out. Give them a half each, see if either look ready for a place on the bench and looked comfortable in our team. A missed opportunity. Hold on You've been waxing lyrical about how we should either play the kids or the full side and not mix the two all bleeding day in an attempt to get an argument out of someone now you suggest this
Guest Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Awkward when you slate James Pearson in a tweet without tagging him in it and he ends up favoriting it :whistle: The perils of badmouthing someone on social meeja
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 The perils of badmouthing someone on social meeja Don't really see what you get out of slating people on Twitter. On a football forum fair enough if a player is stupid enough to come and see what people write about them after a bad performance they shouldn't be surprised if they read things they don't want to. To abuse them on Twitter where they are more than likely guaranteed to read it whether they want to or not is beyond me. Can only think people do it to get their attention.
Captain... Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Hold on You've been waxing lyrical about how we should either play the kids or the full side and not mix the two all bleeding day in an attempt to get an argument out of someone now you suggest this Not looking for an argument just frustrated by such a stupid line up from Pearson. Trying to make sense of his thought process. Mainly having 2 kids in the centre. Of course we are going to be ineffective if we have no drive in the middle. Having a more better side with 1 or even 2 kids who we may end up having to call upon might make sense, but playing Watson and Cain together gave neither of them a chance, cost us the game and we learnt nothing. Maybe Pearson was giving his son a chance at RB to see if he could be cover for RDL, a back line of Pearson, Moore, Was and Konch should have been good enough for Shrewsbury, and if we don't get any RB cover it is not unfeasible Pearson gets called upon. Just seen today we are looking at Cardiff RB. Should we get another injury in the midfield and don't get anyone in Cain or Watson could be called up, so giving them game time could have been sensible, but playing them together with GTF and Wood up front giving very little support, you are asking way to much from 2 very inexperienced players and probably destroyed their confidence should we need to call one of them up.
roger the dodger Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Which way to Nottingham? I want to watch a winning team now your just being silly
roger the dodger Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Stoke 2-1 Leicester, last seasons FA cup Next 16 games - WWWWWDDWWWWDDWDW well that Ain.t going to happen in this league is it
Lionheart Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 I think Nigel may have to have an uncomfortable conversation with his son pretty soon letting him go,clearly not good enough to be at a Premier league side!!
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Who has done well in pre season, why wouldn't he be given a chance?? Well, clearly you lack the little grey cells. He just isn't anywhere near Championship standard, let alone top level. He showed that against Shrewsbury. The sooner you go back to school, the better, methinks.
BigMicky Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Well, clearly you lack the little grey cells. He just isn't anywhere near Championship standard, let alone top level. He showed that against Shrewsbury. The sooner you go back to school, the better, methinks. Err that's why he was tested against a league 2 side. And you just keep giving. Why can't you give him a chance before writing him off? Do you not think Nigel would be harder on his son because you get berks like you claiming he is only there because his dad is manager.
Mark_w Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Well, clearly you lack the little grey cells. He just isn't anywhere near Championship standard, let alone top level. He showed that against Shrewsbury. The sooner you go back to school, the better, methinks. He did well in pre-season and as RDL is basically our only RB we had to ensure he was fit for Sunday. James deserved a chance, he didn't do well and I'm sure it'll be a while before he gets another. That's basically all he's said. Grow up.
Thracian Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Irrespective of the team selected last night there was so much wrong both technically and tactically. Far more worrying though is the lack of transfer action. Pearson's lack of managerial experience in the Premiership was a concern from the time we won promotion but I honestly thought he'd have prepared a modus operandi well in advance and would have known exactly who he intended to recruit. As the weeks went by people kept saying "don't panic", "there's plenty of time yet" but the reality is that we've already left it far too late. Last night's game only highlighted the folly of having such a flimsy squad. Instead of having the equivalent of two teams competing for places we've hardly got one and while our injuries are unfortunate, it's foolhardy that we've not covered for such an occurence. Right now we've played three, drawn one, lost two and not even averaged a goal a game. Whatever the opposition, to carry on like that spells disaster and last night didn't help one bit. In fact we seemed to treat it like a pre-season game but with no sense of purpose whatsover. Does our management seriously believe that sort of advert will sell our club to prospective signings? I've argued we haven't strengthened our squad one bit in the close season and last night only strengthened that view. Hamer? Do me a favour. Upson? The invisible man. Albrighton? Upson mark 11. Dyer: Active and effective (somewhere else) Barmby? (Presumably one for tomorrow) Ulloa (Arguably a plus but it's a thinish argument as yet). Where are the signs of our brave new world and our determination to hit the Promised Land running? Last night we couldn't put a cross on an Easter bun let alone accurately into the penalty box. Who's responsible for the standard of our crosses, where they're aimed and how we might get on the end of them? Momentum? I've never quite worked out if Knockaert plays for Leicester City or "It's a Knockaert" and last night emphasised why. Yes he got involved, yes he was clearly trying, but he was playing with himself more than a pubescent teenager and no-one else had the slightest idea where to run or what to do to in the meantime. Messages? Surely we had people on the sidelines who might have noticed that Shrewsbury had a giant centre-half who fed voraciously on anything in the air. And that being the case was it really beyond their with to advise us not to keep tossing the ball onto his head? Width? Once Schlupp came on we were a bit more threatening but before that we had no genuine width at all - that is the kind of width that included pace, penetration and an effective final pass. Tactically we were out-thought throughout but never more glaringly than from free-kicks and corners when Shrewsbury seemed to have the Freedom of our city and more free headers on the night than a good team would give em in a season. Yes, I know they had taller players. It happens in football and is the kind of problem coaches are supposedly tested on to get their badges. I didn't see any preventive measures being applied. In fact the longer the game went on the more space Shrewsbury's attackers seemed to have. As for our fringe players you'd never believe they had ambitions of playing in the Premiership. In terms of expressing themselves they painted their evening a dour shade of grey. They had no energy, no passion, no conviction, no magic and no hope. Of course the first teamers should have lifted them but they couldn't be bothered to pick themselves off the floor let alone anyone else. The whole exercise was a shambles from our point of view but not the slightest surprise. Not for the first time in Cup football, I don't think we had the right attitude from the off. Some say it doesn't matter but it does. Winning is all that matters to a football club and the sooner we regain our focus on that, the better. But we won't do it with half a squad and that's what it looks like we've got at the moment. .
RonnieTodger Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 As HILARIOUS as these sarcastic "we're doomed" comments are, you can still be ****ed off that we got beaten by a League 2 side, without thinking that we'll go down. As MTWG said, I don't buy into this "concentrate on the league" bollocks. I want us to progress in the cups, but that doesn't necessarily have to be with a full team. We shouldn't need a full-team out to beat a League 2 side in Shrewsbury. As for people moaning about the booing - did you really clap that? If not, should the players walk off in silence? That wasn't ****ing good enough, whether the league is more important or not. We've been deservedly beaten at home by a side 3 leagues below. In fact, 1-0 flattered us.
BigMicky Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 As HILARIOUS as these sarcastic "we're doomed" comments are, you can still be ****ed off that we got beaten by a League 2 side, without thinking that we'll go down. As MTWG said, I don't buy into this "concentrate on the league" bollocks. I want us to progress in the cups, but that doesn't necessarily have to be with a full team. We shouldn't need a full-team out to beat a League 2 side in Shrewsbury. As for people moaning about the booing. Did you really clap that? If not, should the players walk off in silence? That wasn't ****ing good enough, whether the league is more important or not. We've been deservedly beaten at home by a side 3 leagues below. In fact, 1-0 flattered us. You do know there is a middle ground between booing and clapping don't you?
RonnieTodger Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 You do know there is a middle ground between booing and clapping don't you? Yeah, as I said...collective silence.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 You do know there is a middle ground between booing and clapping don't you? Is that when you boo and clap simultaneously..? That would look weird and like taking the piss..
theessexfox Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Yeah, as I said...collective silence. Maybe singing.
BigMicky Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Is that when you boo and clap simultaneously..? That would look weird and like taking the piss.. Its called claboooo....
BigMicky Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Yeah, as I said...collective silence. Which would have a far greater impact than the standard booing
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