Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 I was just thinking about the contrast compared to our 5-2 win over Carislie last season- to be fair we played our first team I think but Wood got a hat trick and everyone gave it their all but we was going for promotion at that time as well so I do not buy focusing on the league excuses. I think we rotated to be fair, even Conrad played if I remember correctly. The problem last night was rotating was always going to be a problem as three of the four first team centre mids were injured and it would of been daft to risk the only remaining fit one for 90, as such they probably dominated the centre of the park and if a side does that there always going to be in a game.
Dan Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Wouldn't it be great it some people could get their head around the fact that some people are pissed off at the blatant neglecting of the cup rather than how good we are as a team. I think we might even beat Arsenal.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Wouldn't it be great it some people could get their head around the fact that some people are pissed off at the blatant neglecting of the cup rather than how good we are as a team. I think we might even beat Arsenal.
BigMicky Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Wouldn't it be great it some people could get their head around the fact that some people are pissed off at the blatant neglecting of the cup rather than how good we are as a team. I think we might even beat Arsenal. Be as pissed off as you like, but folk booed last night. Considering what has happened over the past 16 months a one off "can't be arsed" game is acceptable. Every team in the land will have one this season. Why has this forum gone into meltdown, its a massive over action from some.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Well if memory serves me right, the reason on here (excuses?) given for crashing out last season was because we were going for promotion. This season, I presume it's because we want to retain our Premiership status? It's a far cry since MON and doing both.. Ie staying in the Prem and winning cups. Poor night..again shows our lack of depth IMO. Definitely illustrates our lack of depth. Pearson selects his own son! What the f--k is he up to? Embarrassing, and pathetic.
BigMicky Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Definitely illustrates our lack of depth. Pearson selects his own son! What the f--k is he up to? Embarrassing, and pathetic. Who has done well in pre season, why wouldn't he be given a chance??
Carlos88LCFC Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 We'll have a job going out in the FA cup 1st round wont we. Wigan weren't relegated because of their FA cup run. And besides to be totally honest I'd take relegation for an FA cup win. It's certainly the most prestigious trophy we've got any chance of winning in the next 10 years at least. More than likely my life time, certainly means more than being charged £60 a ticket to watch teams spank us every time we go away. And if we're going down that route look what happened to Manchester City, Swansea, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs, Arsenal, Villa, Chelsea. Blackburn Rovers. Middlesborough, Portsmouth, Everton and indeed us in the years we won the cup. They're all the cup winners of the Prem era. Yes two got relegated, so what, it's clear most cup winners stay up and if you look at losing finalists I think even more stay up, like Sunderland and Hull last year. Massive massive myth cup runs distract you, they are what you make of them. Sorry, I meant our first game in the FA cup. As if you would want to win the FA cup and get relegated. I'd prefer to establish ourselves in the Premiership more than anything else. Yes winning the FA cup would be good for a few weeks but then getting back out of the Championship would be tough. I am just annoyed at the fans that booed the lads off yesterday. Ridiculous to do that...
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Wouldn't it be great it some people could get their head around the fact that some people are pissed off at the blatant neglecting of the cup rather than how good we are as a team. I think we might even beat Arsenal. This. I'm angry about last night but I've no concern about the team's attitude. Clearly what happened is the team didn't consider the game important enough and didn't apply themselves. That's disappointing but only in isolation to the game itself.
Corky Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 What surprises me with this thread are some of the people who already seem to have become quite negative. The positive types I much expect anyway. If we lost every one of our first twenty games, they'd be shouting that we can still make Europe But some of the more negative comments I didnt expect from certain posters. Personally, I'm pretty much content with our start and last night, as I said earlier, I expected us to lose anyway. We must get a bigger squad, with quality replacements. Yes we are trying, but if we don't I can see us really start to suffer because of it. I'm just annoyed because we could've had a cup run and reached Wembley, you never know what might happen. I don't expect home defeats to League 2 opposition with a fairly strong team out (right back and centre midfield the only true weak areas). This result will have no bearing on Sunday's game, we'll have a virtually different team out (possibly only Moore and Konch keeping their place). I don't believe this is the start of a negative run because key players had nothing to do with the match. We've started encouragingly in terms of performance in the league and I think that will continue. It's a potential opportunity missed, that's all, but we'll carry on.
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Sorry, I meant our first game in the FA cup. As if you would want to win the FA cup and get relegated. I'd prefer to establish ourselves in the Premiership more than anything else. Yes winning the FA cup would be good for a few weeks but then getting back out of the Championship would be tough. I am just annoyed at the fans that booed the lads off yesterday. Ridiculous to do that... What's so great about the Premier league if your just dicking about in there year on year never winning anything. As I've said I think the FA cup is pretty much the pinnacle of what this club can achieve so would I prefer to win it and go down than to stay up and never win anything, yes. There is no reason why you can't do both mind you, this is what a lot of people forget, especially the FA cup the fixtures allow for most Prem clubs to make around the 5th round with no extra midweek fixtures, and as it has been said, we're 8 league games lighter this year and out of the league cup already, no reason we shouldn't be giving the FA cup a good go. We probably wont though rather infuriatingly, not unless we're looking very comfortable come Xmas. I do agree I wouldn't of booed last night, I think the only time I ever have was Cardiff at home directly before Levein's sacking and that was something that needed doing.
ImBlue Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 This was 90 minutes with a strong side out, at home against a league two team. Let's not mince words here, it won't affect the league, but it's piss poor and an opportunity missed
Captain... Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Unless you were forced to watch the game at gun point last night, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone moaning about last night’s result and performance. Anyone who turns up to a first or second round League Cup tie against Shrewsbury really deserves everything that they get. These early ties are little more than reserve games. It’s just a good opportunity to blood some young players and give the fringe players a work-out. But that’s it. If you’re expecting any more than that, then you’re a bit of a disabled if you ask me. The players probably weren’t bothered. Neither were the fans. 32,000 turn up against Everton and then 8,000 last night. Imagine if King had injured himself last night? That would have been a disaster. The result is disappointing in the same way that it’s disappointing when you forget to take the bin out in the morning and miss the bin men. It’s annoying but no reason to take your own life in shame and horror. What if Konchesky or Moore or Mahrez got injured, or Nugent or Schlupp or King coming on as subs. All likely to start on Sunday. If you are worried about injuries, you play it as a reserve game. If it is a reserve game don't play any first team players. Play fringe fleshed out with youth. Why bring on King instead of Barmby, why bring on Nugent instead of Hopper. If you do actually want to win a game you don't play 2 kids in the middle. I just don't understand what Pearson wanted to achieve. Ok you make some changes give Hamer, Was, GTF and Knocky some game time, but why not have Albrighton in to get some more minutes under his belt? Why not give Nugent and Ulloa another 90 minutes together a chance to work on their partnership get some goals and get some confidence up. Why not play Knocky as a CM see how he copes in case we get another CM injury. Then if we controlling the game and winning we could bring on Cain or Pearson and introduce them gently, rather than throwing them out there in a very weakened side and subjecting them to a poor defeat and being booed. When I saw the line-up I thought we were going to lose and if I had seen the odds I probably would have stuck a couple of quid on Shrewsbury. I just find the whole thing odd and frustrating.
MattGamble92 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 I don't think you should go to anymore games if you get this wound up by bog standard football chants. I'll just said my season ticket back now then. Someone pointed out how Everton never resorted to these sorts of chants and it shows a different class in support to me. Not saying i was that offended, just aren't going to stand there with my arms aloft clapping them. Was so cringeworthy
Fox Ulike Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 I'll just said my season ticket back now then. Someone pointed out how Everton never resorted to these sorts of chants and it shows a different class in support to me. Not saying i was that offended, just aren't going to stand there with my arms aloft clapping them. Was so cringeworthy What were they chanting?
Dan Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Unless you were forced to watch the game at gun point last night, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone moaning about last night’s result and performance. Anyone who turns up to a first or second round League Cup tie against Shrewsbury really deserves everything that they get. These early ties are little more than reserve games. It’s just a good opportunity to blood some young players and give the fringe players a work-out. But that’s it. If you’re expecting any more than that, then you’re a bit of a disabled if you ask me. The players probably weren’t bothered. Neither were the fans. 32,000 turn up against Everton and then 8,000 last night. Imagine if King had injured himself last night? That would have been a disaster. The result is disappointing in the same way that it’s disappointing when you forget to take the bin out in the morning and miss the bin men. It’s annoying but no reason to take your own life in shame and horror.
The Blur Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 I think we rotated to be fair, even Conrad played if I remember correctly. The problem last night was rotating was always going to be a problem as three of the four first team centre mids were injured and it would of been daft to risk the only remaining fit one for 90, as such they probably dominated the centre of the park and if a side does that there always going to be in a game. I checked the line up and I even got a joke that is even more funnier than the fact Logan played- even Bakayogo started that night as well! I agree re youths, I was directing the criticism more at more senior members of the team such as Knocky, Konchesky etc but to be fair I can empathise them worrying about whether to go full pelt or save it for Arsenal considering our injuries. Hopefully this will serve as a kick up the bum for this Sunday!
Fox Ulike Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Yeah good point. I hadn't considered the situation from that angle.
Kitchandro Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Unless you were forced to watch the game at gun point last night, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone moaning about last night’s result and performance. Anyone who turns up to a first or second round League Cup tie against Shrewsbury really deserves everything that they get. These early ties are little more than reserve games. It’s just a good opportunity to blood some young players and give the fringe players a work-out. But that’s it. If you’re expecting any more than that, then you’re a bit of a disabled if you ask me. The players probably weren’t bothered. Neither were the fans. 32,000 turn up against Everton and then 8,000 last night. Imagine if King had injured himself last night? That would have been a disaster. The result is disappointing in the same way that it’s disappointing when you forget to take the bin out in the morning and miss the bin men. It’s annoying but no reason to take your own life in shame and horror. Strange post. I didn't even listen to it (I was out for a birthday) but I'm still pretty pissed off we got humiliated. These kind of results are never acceptable. It's not a reserve game, it's a competitive match. A cup match. A cup we once took very seriously. I don't blame Pearson for making changes. That team should still have beaten Shrewsbury. Maybe the players weren't bothered, but they bloody should have been. Anyway, I'm not quite sure what 10 pages of discussion is about. It was an embarrassing result, not good enough, we move on.
Dan Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 This. I'm angry about last night but I've no concern about the team's attitude. Clearly what happened is the team didn't consider the game important enough and didn't apply themselves. That's disappointing but only in isolation to the game itself. To be honest the more I think about it, the more I think it's more than just the players. Pearson sounded to me like he genuinely wanted the win in his interview (and in his defence I had no qualms at the team-sheet). Would you feel very motivated if you walk out and the first thing you see is the biggest stand in the ground empty? You look left, empty, you look right, empty. I thought Leicester set the tone for last night from the off. I genuinely believe if you include that game in season tickets and you get a 25k crowd you've got a completely different game.
davelcfc100 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 i had £20 on shrewsbury at 11/1 so im ****in happy
Dan Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Yeah good point. I hadn't considered the situation from that angle. That's probably for the better.
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 What were they chanting? Just I want to go home, nothing new. If singing that is a sign of classless support then a guess we have classless support.
Captain... Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Strange post. I didn't even listen to it (I was out for a birthday) but I'm still pretty pissed off we got humiliated. These kind of results are never acceptable. It's not a reserve game, it's a competitive match. A cup match. A cup we once took very seriously. I don't blame Pearson for making changes. That team should still have beaten Shrewsbury. Maybe the players weren't bothered, but they bloody should have been. I disagree that these kind of results are never acceptable, it is the performance I am pissed of with, and the team selection. Sometimes you lose games you should win, Shrewsbury would have been well up for it, and if they had played out of their skins and resisted a late barrage and got a bit of luck, then I would accept the result. The fact Pearson put out a team that had 4 debutants, including a midfield that hasn't started shaving yet meant we were always in danger of losing. It doesn't matter how much ability and potential Cain and Watson have you can't put them in a game like that against experienced professionals and expect anything other than a defeat. You really want to give Cain an opportunity to shine you play him alongside an experienced CM. Losing is always frustrating, playing shit is very disappointing, but picking a team that is more or less guaranteed to do both in a competitive match that people have paid good money to see is shocking from Nige.
Silverdaz Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 What if Konchesky or Moore or Mahrez got injured, or Nugent or Schlupp or King coming on as subs. All likely to start on Sunday. If you are worried about injuries, you play it as a reserve game. If it is a reserve game don't play any first team players. Play fringe fleshed out with youth. Why bring on King instead of Barmby, why bring on Nugent instead of Hopper. If you do actually want to win a game you don't play 2 kids in the middle. I just don't understand what Pearson wanted to achieve. Ok you make some changes give Hamer, Was, GTF and Knocky some game time, but why not have Albrighton in to get some more minutes under his belt? Why not give Nugent and Ulloa another 90 minutes together a chance to work on their partnership get some goals and get some confidence up. Why not play Knocky as a CM see how he copes in case we get another CM injury. Then if we controlling the game and winning we could bring on Cain or Pearson and introduce them gently, rather than throwing them out there in a very weakened side and subjecting them to a poor defeat and being booed. When I saw the line-up I thought we were going to lose and if I had seen the odds I probably would have stuck a couple of quid on Shrewsbury. I just find the whole thing odd and frustrating. Knocky as a CM now thats funny
Larry_LCFC Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Which way to Nottingham? I want to watch a winning team
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