Sneaky Coppers

[Rob1742]

Just on the A14 today. Not normal for the speed camera vans to be out on that road, but today they were.

This van though was dark navy, so apart from the hole in the back window, hard to recognise it being a copper wagon. Usually white as I recall.

They didn't get me, as I am a good boy, but the almost black van is a new tactic that appears will catch quite a few off guard.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Just on the A14 today. Not normal for the speed camera vans to be out on that road, but today they were.

This van though was dark navy, so apart from the hole in the back window, hard to recognise it being a copper wagon. Usually white as I recall.

They didn't get me, as I am a good boy, but the almost black van is a new tactic that appears will catch quite a few off guard.

Cheers for that. I use that road quite frequently at the moment.

[Strokes]

I thought they weren't allowed to do speed checks in unmarked vehicles, I doubt this is what they would have been checking.

[Matt]

Checks for road tax, now the system has changed maybe?

[Voll Blau]

Whereabouts on the A14?

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Probably ANPR checks. We often did them from unmarked vehicles. Brings up all the information, from issues such as road tax, to crime etc. Suited me well, as it's an interesting gadget to use.

 

In the Thames Valley force we used unmarked vehicles for speed checks. Why advertise yourself? If people are stupid enough to speed, then they deserve all they get.

[Out Foxed]

saw a load of police, patrol cars and speed cameras,on the 29th/30th. did they have some quotas to fill before the end of the month or something?

[Carl the Llama]

Probably ANPR checks. We often did them from unmarked vehicles. Brings up all the information, from issues such as road tax, to crime etc. Suited me well, as it's an interesting gadget to use.

 

In the Thames Valley force we used unmarked vehicles for speed checks. Why advertise yourself? If people are stupid enough to speed, then they deserve all they get.

Do you honestly believe that the speed limit is 100% rational 100% of the time?  'Speeding' is the mere application of common sense on some roads, unfortunately those roads also tend to be the most frequented with mobile cameras because they know they can always catch some of the less wary drivers out for a nice little bounty.

[ADK]

Before I drove much I was all for speed limits and thought they needed to be enforced more but once you start driving they become a bit of a nuisance. Unreasonably slow limits seem to cause as much trouble as they save.

[Rob1742]

I thought they weren't allowed to do speed checks in unmarked vehicles, I doubt this is what they would have been checking.

It was marked, but as it was navy, you didn't pick up on it until you were on top of it.

My thoughts afterwards is that you subconsciously look out for white vans, and don't really look at other colours.

So I think it was out for speeders, it was marked so legal to do, but you don't pick it up as you are not accustomed to it.

It was between Huntingdon and Kettering West bound

[JIMMYWILLIS]

When I did a speed awareness course I told them the van which caught me was unmarked. The guy insisted they never do that but I've seen it many times since. Fair cop, just saying

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Do you honestly believe that the speed limit is 100% rational 100% of the time?  'Speeding' is the mere application of common sense on some roads, unfortunately those roads also tend to be the most frequented with mobile cameras because they know they can always catch some of the less wary drivers out for a nice little bounty.

In a word, CRAP!

 

Have you ever had to attend a fatal accidents caused by speeding? No. I have, and it is gut wrenching.

[Unabomber]

In a word, CRAP!

 

Have you ever had to attend a fatal accidents caused by speeding? No. I have, and it is gut wrenching.

So is racism and homophobia imo.

[sphericalfox]

In a word, CRAP!

 

Have you ever had to attend a fatal accidents caused by speeding? No. I have, and it is gut wrenching.

 

I nearly spilled a full ashtray on my mates carpet after a night stomping to Andy C, I didn't eat for days, and had a reet pain in my gulliver, I hear what your saying.

[fuchsntf]

My gripe was never the speed cops, but the tw#ts who drive well over the limit.

Plus road engineers, who cant plan their repairs in armony taking town , city flows and county flows into account.

Usuall very poor in maths, getting 2 major issues terribly wrong. Road building area width of road, often mis-calculated, nearly every parking lot width, forgetting, its not just for parking, but people would actually like to get out of their cars, after parking, with being allowed to open their doors fully on both sides, health and safety should be suing the town councils.

AA should be arguing this case, plus love to see some clever bu##ers take out a writ against these councils, after breaking a hand, ankle, leg, because they didnt have enough room to manouvre out of their own or friends car.

Speeding, ( yes I have been done, my fault fair cop) no excuse , bounties or unfair traps..BullSh#t !!!

If speedsters dont like losing money, dont speed, dont overtake where inapropiate.Your the idiot, not the law.

[Vardinhio]

Probably ANPR checks. We often did them from unmarked vehicles. Brings up all the information, from issues such as road tax, to crime etc. Suited me well, as it's an interesting gadget to use.

 

In the Thames Valley force we used unmarked vehicles for speed checks. Why advertise yourself? If people are stupid enough to speed, then they deserve all they get.

 

Speed checks must be performed in marked vehicles. Sneaking about is completely against policy. The whole point of doing the checks is so that members of the public realise that the police are there enforcing the law.

This article says as much.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2730983/Caught-camera-Police-officers-filmed-trying-catch-speeders-unmarked-car-despite-rules-saying-cameras-clearly-visible.html

[fuchsntf]

Speed checks must be performed in marked vehicles. Sneaking about is completely against policy. The whole point of doing the checks is so that members of the public realise that the police are there enforcing the law.

This article says as much.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2730983/Caught-camera-Police-officers-filmed-trying-catch-speeders-unmarked-car-despite-rules-saying-cameras-clearly-visible.html

So sneaky speedsters are ok then.Life and injury mayhem on the roads is ok.Speeding through our cities, not at 5-10 mph

over the limit, but well over 50-70mph the limit , and trying to get away with it and being sneaky, that is ok.

Only driving safely when traps are known, speeding is not being sneaky....mmm

[Rob1742]

I think "sneaky" wouldn't form part of the title of in certain cases they weren't.

Don't have a problem with enforcing speeding as such, but sometimes it is clear that the aim is more about revenue than law enforcement.

The reason I say this is that on a few occasions that I have been caught, it has been downhill, just after a lower speed sign and so they have known this is the optimum chance of getting their desired result.

So no problem with speed cameras, infact I found it odd that a few years ago many were disarmed.

But do it for the right reasons and you will get the full support from the public.

[Saxondale]

The simple fact is they never put these vans in accident blackspots, only in places where they're more likely to catch people because, for instance, a disproportionately low speed limit.

Also, making the vans stealth sort of makes a mockery of them being a deterrent to speeding.

And the police wonder why everybody hates them?

[Rincewind]

Yes they should install huge signs as you approach with ' just to let you know  we have a van a couple of miles ahead to catch you speeding. You cant miss it it has 'Sneaky Coppers' painted on the side.

 

When passed there would be another sign 'OK you can increase your speed now'

 

[Vlad the Fox]

I thought they do have to sign post it by law, or they used to. And what's the point in being undercover to catch speeders if one of them then runs a kid over, 'at least we caught him speeding.' The idea is that they slow traffic down to prevent accidents, not to fill their coffers, and it works, even in areas that are signposted yet they don't have fixed cameras.

[Strokes]

Yes they should install huge signs as you approach with ' just to let you know we have a van a couple of miles ahead to catch you speeding. You cant miss it it has 'Sneaky Coppers' painted on the side.

When passed there would be another sign 'OK you can increase your speed now'

The idea of 'safety' cameras is the safety of everyone, not revenue raising and incrimination. They catch plenty of idiots with marked vehicles, so to attempt to catch out more is sneaky.

[Saxondale]

Yes they should install huge signs as you approach with ' just to let you know  we have a van a couple of miles ahead to catch you speeding. You cant miss it it has 'Sneaky Coppers' painted on the side.

 

When passed there would be another sign 'OK you can increase your speed now'

 

Well, despite your facetiousness, if their aim is to PREVENT speeding, that is exactly what they should do.

If, however, their aim is to allow people to carry on speeding but then fine them, then they should carry on being sneaky.

[Rincewind]

Well, despite your facetiousness, if their aim is to PREVENT speeding, that is exactly what they should do.

If, however, their aim is to allow people to carry on speeding but then fine them, then they should carry on being sneaky.

Well facetiousness with a little tongue in cheek. They do have signs with a camera on though. I don't drive so it does not matter to me if they are sneaky. There are some drivers that are just over may be missed so I think their main aim is to catch those that are way over and may be driving erratically.. Do they have speed traps in the early hours on country roads?

[MooseBreath]

Some residents who live close to a dual carriageway near me successfully got the speed limit reduced to 50mph last year based on reducing the level of noise. Of course the first thing the police did was bang in a speed camera. Thousands got caught and fined that first weekend. There were also three accidents due to people slamming on the breaks, more accidents on that stretch of road in one weekend than there had been in the 17 years since it was built. It was only through luck that nobody was killed. Protect and serve, mother ****ers.