Callabinho Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 Hand on heart I don't think any Leicester fan wants him gone, if I was Top I wouldn't sack him, the even if we lost every game from here on in and went down, he is building something and we do need to stick with him to accomplish it, however, the owners want a return, and it's hard to defend him after 4 straight defeats, in which we have had players playing out of position, and our most creative players left on the bench. Only Nige can sort it and he better, because lose against Sunderland, and it could be game over.
Guest LCFC_World Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 because lose against Sunderland, and it could be game over. ... We're not even 1/3 through the season!
LCFCCKEANO Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 We are shit right now but for almost 2 years before we have been improving, things can only get better, keep him till march and if things still look bleak maybe then start getting iffy, its been 5 results for christs sake
yorksfox Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 We are in trouble, perhaps not points adrift at the bottom, but seemingly without the tactics or players to produce any real threat. Yes, the players (and manager) who won the Championship with ease deserve their chance at the top table, but for how long? Relegation would not automatically result in an immediate return-it has just taken us 10 years to get back to the Prem. Team selections and tactics have baffled me at times and I don't consider Cambiasso a necessarily good signing. I hope NP changes things before the owners do the inevitable, I'm sure he has it in him but that stubbornness may be costly for him.
foxfan92 Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 Of course Pearson should go. Apart from getting us promoted back to the top division with record points and having the best record of any manager we've ever had - what else has he done for the club? Sure before the season began everyone was saying they'd be happy with finishing 17th if it means surviving the tough first season back in the top flight - and ok so we've only played 11 matches and the team looked fairly good for the first 6 of those ... but damn it we're not doing well enough because we're not outplaying teams who have been in the league for a lot longer than us and have squads that have been built up over years of playing in this league. Pearson put this pressure on himself when we beat and outplayed Man Utd after beating Stoke the week before ... he gave us hope and showed us our side could win in this division - damn him for that! Its quite clear from reading the forums fans are unhappy at him constantly changing the team and they are also unhappy when he doesn't change the team and sticks with players ... honestly Pearson why can't you just please everyone by picking the same and yet completely different team each week? While we're still ahead of the other 2 teams who got promoted and who haven't sacked their managers yet it's clear that the fact we're not challenging Chelsea for the title Pearson MUST be doing something wrong. We shouldn't be giving the players any time at all - nor the manager time to get used to a division with 17 other teams who've had more experience of playing at this level in recent times than us. So lets not give Pearson time to face teams like Sunderland, QPR, Villa etc which are games coming up soon and ones we can win ... lets reprimand Pearson for losing to teams like Southampton who lie 2nd in the table and have won 8 of their 11 games .... The time for sensible thinking and togetherness is over ... the time for panicky overreaction is nigh ... Pearson out - and we'll worry about whether there is anyone better to replace him after ... maybe we'll get ole gunnar solskjaer!
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 last season the clubs who chopped and changed - Fulham and Cardiff finished in the bottom two. And both of those managers have been sacked in The Championship this season already.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 Backing a failing manager at the top end of the Championship is a much easier call than it is to back a failing manager at the bottom of the Premiership. Is it? In your opinion, how long has he got if this continues? No idea.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 [words] All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what has Nigel Pearson done for us?
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what has Nigel Pearson done for us? Brilliant...are you the Judean people's front or the people's Front of Judea?
Leicester_Numan Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 I think Pearson's approach of changing formation and personnel to suit the opposition is the right one in the long run but it's just not working with this group of players. They're not good enough to create and attack while setting up to contain and in trying to do both we've ended up doing neither very well. I'd like to see Pearson do a little experiment for the next 4 games and set up to suit us rather than the opposition and have a right good go at them. We can't possibly do any worse than the last 4 and we might actually win a couple.
Leicester_Numan Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 Brilliant...are you the Judean people's front or the people's Front of Judea? They're both splitters
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 I'm convinced that some people come on here and post when they are drunk? I'm also convinced the Mods exercise too little control over what sometimes becomes all-out personal attacks. Eg. Has anyone got a ban after this thread? The chickens will, one day, come home to roost, I'm sure.
Monsell1976 Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 I'm not denying the diamond experiment is baffling because it plainly isn't working (Man Utd aside) but calling for the manager's head because of a 5 game run in the top league. It's not like we've not been here before anyway, two years ago we had a bad run and the owners backed the manager. I'm amazed that last season hasn't proved to a lot of people that Pearson is the right man to keep us up and give us stability. We were always going to get a run like this and personally I hope we take 6 points from the next two and shut up some of the doubters on here who are over-reacting massively.Agree to an extent, I'm not calling for him to go yet, I say yet because the bloke is putting pressure on himself, persisting with a system which has brought no points against what is classed as average premier league sides, in palace, Newcastle, west brom, Southampton will be mid table with Swansea, and to make it worse we cannot score a goal, what is it now 400 minutes.I agree the bloke needs time, I would say Christmas, but if he continues in this way, he will be gone if we lose to Sunderland, but the bloke needs to learn and stop being stubborn and open his eyes and see we are not good enough to play the system he wants, and play to our strengths, and lose the attitude, and show those that still back him, that he can turn it around, because he looks at a loss at the minute, and we have played shit for 6 games, and nothing has improved.
Callabinho Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 ... We're not even 1/3 through the season! Put the owners shoes on, and think from their perspective. Yes only 1/3 of the season may have gone, but these last few games have been pathetic, do you really think they will take two more defeats in a row? With the King Power flags fluttering in the wind? I don't. As I said personally I don't want him to go, but he's doing little to help himself.
roblcfc84 Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 I get the support for Pearson and truth be told I want him to succeed, but i am shocked at how fans refuse to question the fact that there has been some serious mis-management over the summer and throughout this season. The reasons I believe that if we fail to get anything from the next two games he has to go is not because of the fact I doubt his football knowledge or ability to coach, but I doubt his capacity to change his approach and style - I believe he will continue to play the same group of players and the same failing formation. He continues to take the same dismissive attitude with the media. He needs to take a look at his approach, understand his mistakes and accept that the same group that got us up will not necessary keep us up. If it's not working, like anything In life, whether that be the starting 11, and bringing in Simpson, Albrighton, Powell and Lawrence, even knockheart and mahrez, you make a change. Same approach will yield same outcome. But whether people like it or not if you can't change the people, sometimes you need to change the people. I hope he reflects in the next two weeks.
Guest Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 far too early. Changes at the top are the worst things that could possibly happen at the moment. Stability is essential.
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 far too early. Changes at the top are the worst things that could possibly happen at the moment. Stability is essential. No its not. Not always. That's one of the biggest myths in football. Sometimes a team and a club need modernising, freshening up, new ideas. The question is and always has been, at what point? Getting rid of Sven being a good example.
Tielemans63 Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 Why? Kept Stoke up every year and rescued Palace from a seemingly doomed position. He'd be perfect for us. Consolidate our position in the league and keep us there for a few years the look to kick on. I can understand people wanting Pearson out to an extent (although I completely disagree) but Pulis? People seem to have very short memories, yes he did save Palace but what about before then? Stoke were infamous for playing shitty kick and rush football. The fact a lot of their fans hated him even though he led them through a relatively successful period tells you a lot about how his teams play 'football'. I'm not saying he's not an effective manager but there's a reason he's synonymous with shit football.
roblcfc84 Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 A few names out of work - not saying they are the right people but worth the debate - Pulis, Laudrup, Clarke, Sherwood - Moyes, AVB (last two non starter)
roblcfc84 Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 I did put him in for comedy value, but the other four have a decent record at this level
teblin Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 No its not. Not always. That's one of the biggest myths in football. Sometimes a team and a club need modernising, freshening up, new ideas. The question is and always has been, at what point? Getting rid of Sven being a good example. Sven didn't provide stability though.
Bettsj2 Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 Ok. Insults and bullshit aside. Changing the manager is not always the way to go. Stability is an important thing in football that is becoming less and less common but that does not apply to every situation. I hear the words, 'dont be an idiot', 'he's turned it round before', 'kneejerk reaction' etc etc etc and in a way, I do admire those who can show that kind of loyalty through a rough time like this. The one phrase that really moves me to my thoughts is when people say, 'you weren't saying that after 5 games'. Obviously not, but this is what i'm finding most alarming. During any bad run of form that is inevitable in football, you can often see signs that it wont go on. A passionate Captain, a rousing interview, a performance not deserving of a defeat but we are not seeing any of that. The decline since half time at Palace has been so dramatic and so sudden, that the alarm bells have started ringing with me. Aside from the awful performances, the body language of the players, the managers hostility and the absence of certain players is hugely worrying. Nigel Pearson has always come across as an intelligent, calm, controlled individual who speaks a lot of sense and exhumes confidence even during sticky patches of form. He is currently not displaying any of those traits. Since the Burnley game, nothing of what he's saying is making any sense. Yesterdays 'we're not in a position to play wingers' comment being an example. We have a talented squad that can cope with a team like Southampton and give them a good game but what we saw was a cowering whimper of a performance and I don't understand why? Where has the bravery gone? How can players seemingly become so poor and unreliable overnight (again something you hear from many that cant happen)? Unfortunately when I used to see a lot of Martin O'Neill in Pearson, now i'm seeing more Peter Taylor. After a good start to his tenure, many called for his head after a disastrous run of form. 'You werent saying that at Christmas', 'I bet you wanted O'Neill out', 'he'll sort it out', were the sort of comments said then. Sound familiar? We kept faith, gave him a summer and more money and what followed was, well, we all remember. If we'd have acted sooner then, perhaps we wouldnt have had so many years in the wilderness, who knows? Maybe it wouldnt have made any difference. Maybe sacking Pearson now will just serve to compound our woes and he should be given time. If I could see anything to give me reason to think that he could turn things around, believe me, I wouldnt be of the opinion that I am. All I'm unfortunately seeing is no way out and Pearsons actions and words are not steering me away, rather further towards the thought that replacing him now is a good option.
Guest ttfn Posted 9 November 2014 Posted 9 November 2014 Ok. Insults and bullshit aside. Changing the manager is not always the way to go. Stability is an important thing in football that is becoming less and less common but that does not apply to every situation. I hear the words, 'dont be an idiot', 'he's turned it round before', 'kneejerk reaction' etc etc etc and in a way, I do admire those who can show that kind of loyalty through a rough time like this. The one phrase that really moves me to my thoughts is when people say, 'you weren't saying that after 5 games'. Obviously not, but this is what i'm finding most alarming. During any bad run of form that is inevitable in football, you can often see signs that it wont go on. A passionate Captain, a rousing interview, a performance not deserving of a defeat but we are not seeing any of that. The decline since half time at Palace has been so dramatic and so sudden, that the alarm bells have started ringing with me. Aside from the awful performances, the body language of the players, the managers hostility and the absence of certain players is hugely worrying. Nigel Pearson has always come across as an intelligent, calm, controlled individual who speaks a lot of sense and exhumes confidence even during sticky patches of form. He is currently not displaying any of those traits. Since the Burnley game, nothing of what he's saying is making any sense. Yesterdays 'we're not in a position to play wingers' comment being an example. We have a talented squad that can cope with a team like Southampton and give them a good game but what we saw was a cowering whimper of a performance and I don't understand why? Where has the bravery gone? How can players seemingly become so poor and unreliable overnight (again something you hear from many that cant happen)? Unfortunately when I used to see a lot of Martin O'Neill in Pearson, now i'm seeing more Peter Taylor. After a good start to his tenure, many called for his head after a disastrous run of form. 'You werent saying that at Christmas', 'I bet you wanted O'Neill out', 'he'll sort it out', were the sort of comments said then. Sound familiar? We kept faith, gave him a summer and more money and what followed was, well, we all remember. If we'd have acted sooner then, perhaps we wouldnt have had so many years in the wilderness, who knows? Maybe it wouldnt have made any difference. Maybe sacking Pearson now will just serve to compound our woes and he should be given time. If I could see anything to give me reason to think that he could turn things around, believe me, I wouldnt be of the opinion that I am. All I'm unfortunately seeing is no way out and Pearsons actions and words are not steering me away, rather further towards the thought that replacing him now is a good option. I don't agree with you at all on sacking Pearson but that's a really good post.
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