MooseBreath Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 You think they'd risk relegation after that statement and all the money invested? What money? Given how little we've spent in the last two years the club will have made a small fortune out of this season in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 I hope he can turn it around because I like him, as a person and he's been a good manager for us but if we don't get something from the QPR game I'm afraid the writings on the wall for Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxer Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 Those people saying 'end of the season' would you really want anyone other than him at the helm if we did go down? I certainly wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 Those people saying 'end of the season' would you really want anyone other than him at the helm if we did go down? I certainly wouldn't. And if he did get us back up what then? If he can't cut it in the prem what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 And if he did get us back up what then? If he can't cut it in the prem what's the point? Just the fact he may have learnt from his mistakes. Also would have had another year to ready his squad (knowing the weaknesses) for a real go at it. Or bring in another manager that rips up the squad then praps spend another ten years in the champs looking for the right formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 Just the fact he may have learnt from his mistakes. Also would have had another year to ready his squad (knowing the weaknesses) for a real go at it. Or bring in another manager that rips up the squad then praps spend another ten years in the champs looking for the right formula. He's had money to spend in the summer and he's signed players who can't get a game. We can't beat teams that are around us in the relegation zone, and we can't score. It's too hard to get out of the championship to just assume we'll go straight back up and then do better next time. I really hope he can turn this around, I'm no Pearson hater by the a long way but if we don't start winning soon he's got to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 12 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 'We can't sack Nigel, who would replace him'.This is not a valid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxer Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 And if he did get us back up what then? If he can't cut it in the prem what's the point? We've already seen in the years that he's been with us that he learns from experience and improves. A couple of years ago people didn't think he could cut it in the championship and look how wrong they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 28 November 2014 Share Posted 28 November 2014 He's had money to spend in the summer and he's signed players who can't get a game. We can't beat teams that are around us in the relegation zone, and we can't score. It's too hard to get out of the championship to just assume we'll go straight back up and then do better next time. I really hope he can turn this around, I'm no Pearson hater by the a long way but if we don't start winning soon he's got to go. Most on here thought our squad was good enough and needed a few extra numbers Nige seems to have fallen for that one too. In the summer me and a few others said any signings needed to be first choice players and we got shot down for it. Now everyone is saying we were not good enough. Nige will not make that mistake again. If he is shown the door watch him prove that elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 Most on here thought our squad was good enough and needed a few extra numbers Nige seems to have fallen for that one too. In the summer me and a few others said any signings needed to be first choice players and we got shot down for it. Now everyone is saying we were not good enough. Nige will not make that mistake again. If he is shown the door watch him prove that elsewhere. i think that's because most assumed we'd use the same system and squad as last year with last year's players. i still believe if we play fast tempo 4-4-2 with wingers and attack teams at home last year's squad, with the addition of ulloa, cambiasso and maybe albrighton is good enough to win prem games. we've just not tried it yet, which is puzzling. nige had the whole summer (effectively about 5 months considering we were promoted the first week of april) to either get a lot of better quality players and play them, or to stick with last year's system. he bought a few new players and changed the system, which sort of says he had faith in the players stepping up, but he didn't have faith in the 442? which just doesn't make sense. i guess we'll never know the answer because it seems well never play it, but I'll stick my neck out and say our summer business was absolutely fine and we'd be in a higher position than we are now if we'd played all of last year's team in a 442 with ulloa in for nugent. we didn't sign any of the right or good enough players to play a diamond yet now play a diamond. baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettsj2 Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 i think that's because most assumed we'd use the same system and squad as last year with last year's players. i still believe if we play fast tempo 4-4-2 with wingers and attack teams at home last year's squad, with the addition of ulloa, cambiasso and maybe albrighton is good enough to win prem games. we've just not tried it yet, which is puzzling. nige had the whole summer (effectively about 5 months considering we were promoted the first week of april) to either get a lot of better quality players and play them, or to stick with last year's system. he bought a few new players and changed the system, which sort of says he had faith in the players stepping up, but he didn't have faith in the 442? which just doesn't make sense. i guess we'll never know the answer because it seems well never play it, but I'll stick my neck out and say our summer business was absolutely fine and we'd be in a higher position than we are now if we'd played all of last year's team in a 442 with ulloa in for nugent. we didn't sign any of the right or good enough players to play a diamond yet now play a diamond. baffling. I've no doubt that Pearson genuinly thought that the squad could cope with different formations. He said before the season he had faith in them and before this awful run, he spoke of how people will be suprised at how good we are. Now we are seeing that as a massive error of judgment. As fans we made that error too. Personally I didnt think in a million years we would struggle this much. The way we simply blew teams away last year, I was confident those players would handle the Prem with ease and in the first 6 weeks of the season, it seemed to be the case. Now though we are faced with the reality that the players (some of whom are now on lengthy contracts) are not Premiership quality and neither are some of the summer signings. Our tactical play is non existent, our intensity mute and the whole feel of the club is one thats doomed. In my opinion, there really is only one solution to the problem that will give us a chance of staying in the league and that is to replace the manager. Pearson has done wonders in both of his spells with us. The reality is though that as some players have specialist positions (the false 9, holding midfielder etc), some managers also have specialisms and Pearson's appears to be taking a side on their knees in the Championship and transforming them into contenders. He hasnt showed any evidence that he has the ideas to bring us out of this run. 2 more poor results and its surely over for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 I'm really torn on this at the moment. It's so far only a blip so I wouldn't consider sacking him yet. I'm a massive Pearson fan and would love to see him stay here for years to come. I do however think he needs to adapt his own philosophy and tactics to the premiership quicker. I'm not sure if he'll get enough time to do this and keep us up. If we were to be relegated then I can't think of anybody better to get us straight back up but I'm not sure the owners would be satisfied with that. Think we could be in for a few years of yo-yoing to be honest. Keep the faith people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 I'd rather go down with Pearson than stay up without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHC Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 If we don't win at least one of the next three he will be gone. Do people honestly believe the owners will risk the club's Premier League status for a bit of stability? Come off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 If we don't win at least one of the next three he will be gone. Do people honestly believe the owners will risk the club's Premier League status for a bit of stability? Come off it.I don't believe anybody really knows what the owners think. They have surprised us before when everybody thought NP was a goner. They seem to be quite loyal, how far that stretches is any body's guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 There will be some sackings in the Premier League soon enough and Tony Pulis will be favourite to succeed anyone that goes. Boards won't want to wait until somebody else has employed him before they sack their own manager. Rapid improvement is needed if Pearson's going to keep his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseBreath Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 If we don't win at least one of the next three he will be gone. Do people honestly believe the owners will risk the club's Premier League status for a bit of stability? Come off it. That risk applies regardless, in fact I think the stats show that the risk of being relegated actually increases for clubs in our position who sack their manager. Our owners seem like the type who would consider it properly rather than making rash decisions based on a few poor results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 That risk applies regardless, in fact I think the stats show that the risk of being relegated actually increases for clubs in our position who sack their manager. Our owners seem like the type who would consider it properly rather than making rash decisions based on a few poor results. Dont; start that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 LCFC vice chairman "it's very important that we maintain some perspective in the coming weeks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 the whole feel of the club is one thats doomed. Perhaps people should cheer the feck up then and stop calling for the managers head. It's that attitude which adds the the feeling you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 Given how many of our players are on long term contracts and that we've seen already how sticking with the same approach can work in the Championship (entering into the 13/14 season after finishing 6th) I think we could be pretty confident of getting promoted were we to go down. It may well be worth going for the more secure option if things go badly this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 My only worry is who would replace Pearson should he go. The only managers available could be ones that have left other clubs after a run of bad results. Plus they will pick a team from the same squad of players. Man Utd did OK sticking with one manager for 25 years. There are not many of his calibre around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 My only worry is who would replace Pearson should he go. The only managers available could be ones that have left other clubs after a run of bad results. Plus they will pick a team from the same squad of players. Man Utd did OK sticking with one manager for 25 years. There are not many of his calibre around. While I'm pro-Pearson, that argument only works if you've got a manager who's good enough - imagine we'd done that with Sousa for instance, and most of the Pearson out camp would argue that he's not good enough for this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youglan Posted 29 November 2014 Share Posted 29 November 2014 he be gone after the liverpool game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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