That has to be it. Pearson needs to go.

[Monsell1976]

If we've only got 6 million to spend, no chance but, i'm not really qualified to answer that, i'm just a lowly supporter of my local football team and will carry on being so through thick and thin. If we drop down to the championship at least we have a chance of winning that again, if we stop in the prem we've got no chance of ever winning it and all we'll ever be playing for is mid table obscurity like wba, palace,qpr etc with a shit load of money coming in to buy players who no-one knows and the cost of watching football, for us will get higher every year. But one thing's for certain, you won't find me swinging from a rope just because my teams playing badly.

That's all I am, and my life isn't all about football, and you won't find me at the end of a rope because we are playing poorly.

What I will do is decide not to go to every away game until they get some consistency, or at least start competing.

I accept we are playing badly, and are not good enough, all will always follow city, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Let's just hope something changes soon

[AspectFox]

A transfer budget will be available regardless of whether we know the amount. It will have been factored into the P/L sheet long before John Percy mentioned it.

There is nothing hypothetical about it. My point was you were alluding to the transfer budget being a catchall for any costs the club incurred during the season, such as compensation.

 

I suspect the figure being bandied about is fairly accurate as it goes. It will have been set many months ago based on guaranteed revenues from TV and season tickets etc. Any deviation upwards will be based on a risk versus return calculation, which will need to be funded from next years revenue.

 

At this point in time, from a business point of view, I wouldn't expect a great deal to be spent over the perceived figure if survival is not a foregone conclusion.

[Monsell1976]

A transfer budget will be available regardless of whether we know the amount. It will have been factored into the P/L sheet long before John Percy mentioned it.

There is nothing hypothetical about it. My point was you were alluding to the transfer budget being a catchall for any costs the club incurred during the season, such as compensation.

I suspect the figure being bandied about is fairly accurate as it goes. It will have been set many months ago based on guaranteed revenues from TV and season tickets etc. Any deviation upwards will be based on a risk versus return calculation, which will need to be funded from next years revenue.

At this point in time, from a business point of view, I wouldn't expect a great deal to be spent over the perceived figure if survival is not a foregone conclusion.

Decent loans will be the sensible option, with the option to buy if we stay.

If we go down, less players on long expensive contracts in the championship.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

If you happy what you are watching or listening to, well done, but I am not so easly pleased.

To have a squad of a lot of young or unproven players, and gamble on wether they are good enough, if it isn't naive, then it's reckless, if they are serious about staying in this league, even if he only added 3 players of better quality, we just might be doing better right now.

Well said Monsey

[AspectFox]

Adding further to the transfer budget. Don't be too surprised to see a striker valued at 8-10 million being signed either from a club somewhere in Europe or Africa.

 

The actual cost of this player will be paid out over the length of his contract, so if he signs a four year contract, his value will be paid over four years with no interest. So in effect they are paying for him over a possible 8 transfer windows. There will be a clause that any potential future transfer has a value paid to the original club though as a way of saying thanks for the HP financing arrangement.

[AspectFox]

Decent loans will be the sensible option, with the option to buy if we stay.

If we go down, less players on long expensive contracts in the championship.

 Very much the way forward. There a lot of clubs with very little breathing space at the moment, so getting wages ( or at least the majority of them ) off the overhead is the preferred way with many clubs. No-one pays up front for the full transfer value, so money off the overhead is the next best way of not spending / saving money.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

If you work on the assumption that Pearson has given the players the chance to prove themselves in the prem, then every argument for sacking him goes out the window and we as fans just have to grin and bear what's happening at the moment. They are obviously not good enough and they must know it themselves by now. Pearson has given them the chance and that's all he can do until the January transfer window. His hands are tied and he can't buy anyone.

        If, in the summer he had got a shed load of new players in and got rid of half the team, which is what could have happened, he would have been a right cvnt so his only option, as a man, was to show some loyalty to the players that had pissed the championship.

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! His loyalty should be to the club, and not the players. The players don't pay his huge salary!

 

Pearson should have been well aware that many of his players would have been unable to cope in the Premiership. Many of us pointed that out before the start of the season, but the manager couldn't see it. That says it all. Clearly he is not a man, capable of managing a Premiership side.

[AspectFox]

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! His loyalty should be to the club, and not the players. The players don't pay his huge salary!

 

Pearson should have been well aware that many of his players would have been unable to cope in the Premiership. Many of us pointed that out before the start of the season, but the manager couldn't see it. That says it all. Clearly he is not a man, capable of managing a Premiership side.

And that is the reason for believing something else is at play here. I suspect his hands were tied somewhere along the way. There has been a significant drop in growth in the Far East over the last 18 months, so I suspect the " liquidity " of King Power has been reduced somewhat because of that. The brand of King Power only works when people are spending.

 

NP has been involved in football for too long for me to believe this is his own doing. 

[MC Prussian]

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! His loyalty should be to the club, and not the players. The players don't pay his huge salary!

 

Pearson should have been well aware that many of his players would have been unable to cope in the Premiership. Many of us pointed that out before the start of the season, but the manager couldn't see it. That says it all. Clearly he is not a man, capable of managing a Premiership side.

How can you make assumptions about Pearson's alleged inability coaching capabilities in the Premier League when

a) he has never managed at this level for more than a handful of games (which all of us knew beforehand)

b) his hands were probably tied as far as considerably strengthening the squad was concerned

 

Individually, some players aren't up for the top flight (yet), but collectively, we're not that far off. The difference is minimal.

[Neil_LCFC]

Blame it on the far eastern markets or Terry Robinson all you like but Pearson isn't getting the best out of his players or else we would have at least half a dozen more points. The players aren't all as bad as people are saying , you don't get 102 points in a championship winning side then capitulate in the premier league unless there is something wrong with the tactics/management. Earlier on in the season we played a high tempo pressing game and gave the opposition no time on the ball now we are letting them waltz past us as if we aren't there. If that is playing for the manager I dread to think what they are being told to do. We aren't even doing the basics properly any more.

[nixdas]

Who is to say that Nigel Pearson wanted certain players and Terry Robinson didn't get them or he spent so much time getting Cambiasso and used less resources to get others. Don't get me wrong Pearson hasn't done a great job this season but he got us promoted and we haven't got enough quality. I think in Jan we will buy some players but who will be able to seal the deals??

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[nixdas]

Earlier on in the season we played a high tempo pressing game and gave the opposition no time on the ball now we are letting them waltz past us as if we aren't there. If that is playing for the manager I dread to think what they are being told to do. We aren't even doing the basics properly any more.

Great Point and I have said this quite a few times but I would love to see us play without Cambiasso. I have no doubt that he is a great player and has been one of our better players but I would love to see how the TEAM plays without him.

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[the-blue-wildabeast]

Individually, some players aren't up for the top flight (yet), but collectively, we're not that far off. The difference is minimal.

I assume you are taking the piss and on a wind up, maybe had a few early Christmas sherry's, fair play to you.

[AspectFox]

Blame it on the far eastern markets or Terry Robinson all you like but Pearson isn't getting the best out of his players or else we would have at least half a dozen more points. The players aren't all as bad as people are saying , you don't get 102 points in a championship winning side then capitulate in the premier league unless there is something wrong with the tactics/management. Earlier on in the season we played a high tempo pressing game and gave the opposition no time on the ball now we are letting them waltz past us as if we aren't there. If that is playing for the manager I dread to think what they are being told to do. We aren't even doing the basics properly any more.

No i looks like he isn't getting the best out of them but that is down to the individuals performances in the most part. The speed of thought from a few players is not at a level required when you are up against some of the worlds best players. In others, they are too scared to put their foot on the ball it seems and have a quick glance at available options. These are all problems associated with the players. When the big day comes, clearly the anxiety kicks in.

 

The level between Premier League and the Championship is a huge chasm. The players we have, are in the most part, Championship quality, that is glaringly obvious and NP is trying to set them up not to get spanked and unfortunately, the players we have are one dimensional in that they cant focus on doing more than job at a time.

 

Bournemouth top the championship, score goals for fun, they come up against a below par Liverpool and get beat comfortably, at home too.

The aptitude required for the Premier League is far greater than needed for the Championship as we are finding out on a weekly basis.

 

And if NP didn't realise this and us sticking with predominantly last seasons side was ultimately his doing, then he will be told to leave.

The fact that he hasn't suggests to me that the recruitment in close season was not in his remit.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Sunderland won today another disaster result for us, mind you doesn't make a shitty sausage of difference if we can't even get any points ourselves

[Thrill Bert Fox]

Individually, some players aren't up for the top flight (yet), but collectively, we're not that far off. The difference is minimal.

I assume you are taking the piss and on a wind up, maybe had a few early Christmas sherry's, fair play to you.

clearly we don't have the best group of players in the premiership but in my view they are not the worst - the teams that came up with us for 2 and a couple of other who were already there. For sure Pearson is not a motivational man and has made a number of poor tactical decisions. He's the man in charge and has to take the responsibility for the poor run. I am not even expecting us to be top half but to be this many points adrift at this stage is not good by anyone's standard.

[chris_lcfc_85]

I've ALWAYS been a huge Pearson fan and still am although 50/50 as to what we are to do now.....

 

Does make me laugh though how many fans are desperate for him to go but who do we replace him with? Granted Pulis has a decent record but firstly can he do it again and secondly would he come?

If he said no, who would we get??? There's hardly a queue of great managers

[yorkie1999]

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! His loyalty should be to the club, and not the players. The players don't pay his huge salary!

 

Pearson should have been well aware that many of his players would have been unable to cope in the Premiership. Many of us pointed that out before the start of the season, but the manager couldn't see it. That says it all. Clearly he is not a man, capable of managing a Premiership side.

Why should Pearson be loyal to the club. It was us that poached him from Hull! I think it should be the other way round.

[Neil_LCFC]

I've ALWAYS been a huge Pearson fan and still am although 50/50 as to what we are to do now.....

 

Does make me laugh though how many fans are desperate for him to go but who do we replace him with? Granted Pulis has a decent record but firstly can he do it again and secondly would he come?

If he said no, who would we get??? There's hardly a queue of great managers

 That isn't our problem it's the owners who need to make the right appointment next. Good chairman make the right decision more often than not and their teams stay up/do well. Our problem is often when we change managers we get it wrong which is what sets us back. Making a change isn't a problem if you make it for the better.

 Who wanted or had heard of Pochettino when Adkins got sacked ?.  Who laughed when Swansea got Rodgers when we took Sousa.

 This proves there are managers about who could do a better job,some you have heard of some you haven't it is down to the owners to get it right. Saying there is no one better than Pearson who would come to us is ridiculous.

[MC Prussian]

Individually, some players aren't up for the top flight (yet), but collectively, we're not that far off. The difference is minimal.

I assume you are taking the piss and on a wind up, maybe had a few early Christmas sherry's, fair play to you.

Nope, all sober. The type of results in this division does indeed suggest we're not far off (getting draws or wins).

 

All we need is what others have already referred to as that particular "spark".

[jim5000]

It's getting more apparent watching the games that our team looks like a championship one. Nearly every other team has a more international look to it and the opposition players are just bigger, stronger and faster. Our midfield has no strength, height or atheltism to it, and cambiasso looks like he can't play with the others as they just aren't on his wavelength.

 

It's not that we're terrible, it's just that when things get this bad everything compounds the problems, the loss of confience and the constant changing of tactics and lineup trying to find the fix just serve to make things even more difficult for the management. Something has to happen, because looking at the fixture list you just can't see where the next win is coming from at the moment.

[Thrill Bert Fox]

Nope, all sober. The type of results in this division does indeed suggest we're not far off (getting draws or wins).

All we need is what others have already referred to as that particular "spark".

A spark plus a drop of the passion I have just seen Gus Poyet show at the end of their win. If

Nigel showed a bit of this type of passion maybe the players would do the same and that would make me a lot happier watching them when at least I know they cared

[chris_lcfc_85]

 That isn't our problem it's the owners who need to make the right appointment next. Good chairman make the right decision more often than not and their teams stay up/do well. Our problem is often when we change managers we get it wrong which is what sets us back. Making a change isn't a problem if you make it for the better.

 Who wanted or had heard of Pochettino when Adkins got sacked ?.  Who laughed when Swansea got Rodgers when we took Sousa.

 This proves there are managers about who could do a better job,some you have heard of some you haven't it is down to the owners to get it right. Saying there is no one better than Pearson who would come to us is ridiculous.

 

 

Its not ridiculous, we're bottom. Its not a huge proposition for somebody is it......

[Dr The Singh]

Dr Singh you are obsessed with my Mrs..

:xmaslaugh: You should ask your Mrs, she can't stop whatsapp me!!

[Dr The Singh]

Just wondered if you had changed your mind yet?

Col's Mrs would never forgive me, the thought of him leaving Foxestalk and having the time to spend with her would be the end for her.  So, Nigel has to go!!