Cambiasso

[foxfanazer]

Oh right. Forgot your opinion is the only one valid.

I agree with Col on this one. He has a great touch and good distribution but consistently gets overrun by quicker midfielders. DD and James have a great understanding built on last year and I think it's time to rest Cambiasso personally.

PS. Not for one second have I blamed Esteban for our current plight...

So do you think DD has been good then? Doubt you've read any of my other posts so I'll ignore that first sentence

[SecretPro]

I agree with Igfualol, he is to smart for the rest of our players. He is the only player in the team that takes his time on the ball and picks out a pass, makes it look so effortless that often we don't even notice he's done something good. His brain is a step ahead of most of the the team who sometimes resort to sunday league style chase the ball, panic with it and hoof.

[ScouseFox]

why do people always hate it when we sign a quality player? yakubu all over again this. 

[Itsthejoeker]

Give it a ****ing break Col, it's dead boring now.

[Steven]

We need some hod carriers around him. :xmasdry:

[Guest Col city fan]

If Cambiasso IS our best player... A 34 yr old, released by Inter, and having never played in the quickest division in the world, then I'm afraid we are fooked.

Any teams best player needs to be usually in the 25-30 age group, fit as a fiddle with real quality to play in their preferred position.

I think its what i thought might be the case. We have banked too much on the man. Too much pressure and expectation on his shoulders. And look where we are.

If he were playing in a good side, where he'd come in to compliment an already good set of players..to start sometimes and maybe be taken off after 60 mins..then fine. But that's not the case at City.

He must sometimes wonder what the Hell he's come into. A clearly cultured and honourable man, well past his prime..but seen as our BEST player. Wages aside, I kinda feel for him.

[ousefox]

He's our best player by a mile. Also played 3 times this week - something Gerrard can't do.

[Corky]

If Cambiasso IS our best player... A 34 yr old, released by Inter, and having never played in the quickest division in the world, then I'm afraid we are fooked.

Any teams best player needs to be usually in the 25-30 age group, fit as a fiddle with real quality to play in their preferred position.

I think its what i thought might be the case. We have banked too much on the man. Too much pressure and expectation on his shoulders. And look where we are.

If he were playing in a good side, where he'd come in to compliment an already ood set of players..to start sometimes and maybe be taken off after 60 mins..then fine. But that's not the case at City.

He must sometimes wonder what the Hell he's come into. A clearly cultured and honourable man, well past his prime..but seen as our BEST player. Wages aside, I kinda feel for him.

 

That's very selective, the man has played in World Cups, in the Champions League for Real Madrid and Inter. You don't lose that class you have on the ball. His legs are not as good as they were but given the teams he's been in, and the players he's played with, he'll learn and develop ability on the ball. He looks the only one calm in possession.

 

The manager takes responsibility for the tactics. If he had more support he'd be more effective.

[Samilktray]

We are fvcked because our best player is 1 of the most decorated midfielders of all time.

[beemeroo]

If anything he's too good for those around him. Some of the balls he plays just aren't reciprocated with runs of any kind of quality.

 

Our off the ball movement is woeful at times, and I'm sure that's a big reason we can't seem to string two passes together at times.

[m4DD0gg]

Probably our only premiership quality player, leagues ahead of anyone in the team.

[Shipman Out]

Has he brought his way into the team? Does his contract stipulate he must play whenever/whatever?

Recently consistently average and others get dropped but he continues in his role - Drinks would have performed better alongside James in the second half today. Baffled.

This is utter bollocks

[Guest Col city fan]

This is utter bollocks

I don't think it is..

Without a doubt, I'd have bought Drinkwater or King (or both) on after about 60 mins. For those that care to look, Cambiasso was puffing and James struggling. I just think people don't want to look.

[Babylon]

I don't think it is..

Without a doubt, I'd have bought Drinkwater or King (or both) on after about 60 mins. For those that care to look, Cambiasso was puffing and James struggling. I just think people don't want to look.

Yes he was, but that's the managements fault not his.

His qualities are quite clear to see, if he's being asked to do something he can't then Pearson takes the blame.

As I said during the game he either needed to go off or have another man in behind him. But prior to that he again looked like one of the few who had the key to opening up the opposition.

[Buzzell]

I don't think it is..

Without a doubt, I'd have bought Drinkwater or King (or both) on after about 60 mins. For those that care to look, Cambiasso was puffing and James struggling. I just think people don't want to look.

We need to stir things up a bit. As much as I like both Cambiasso and James, it's time we changed it about. Give King and Drinkwater a start against Man City.

[Bert]

The fact that he's so far ahead of everyone else in terms of vision and ability is what's letting him down as daft as that actually sounds.

[Guest Col city fan]

That's very selective, the man has played in World Cups, in the Champions League for Real Madrid and Inter. You don't lose that class you have on the ball. His legs are not as good as they were but given the teams he's been in, and the players he's played with, he'll learn and develop ability on the ball. He looks the only one calm in possession.

The manager takes responsibility for the tactics. If he had more support he'd be more effective.

I'm afraid all this 'his legs are gone, his legs aren't what they were, his legs aren't as good as they were back in the good old days', is absolutely key. There's even similar statements in the post-match scores thread. In the quickest, most competitive league in the world, this is vital. For all the ability you have, you can't consistently run out of puff in the latter half of games and it not have a major impact.

Please read... THIS is why Cambiasso should not be a box-to-box, 90 minute per game man. He needs to be used correctly to get the best out of him. This is exactly why Brendan Rogers is advocating different role for Gerrard. He (and the player it would seem) have realised, he cannot keep on doing what he is doing. Same with Lampard. He's used by Man City in a specific way.

When you are banking so much on Cambiasso as STILL being your best player, you will not get the best out of him. He'll get found out for his weaknesses. This is key..don't dismiss it. Nigel seems to be doing so.

[Shipman Out]

Asking if he has bought his way into the team is embarrassing and pathetic. But not as embarrassing and pathetic as Matty set piece James dead ball delivery

[Guest ttfn]

We are fvcked because our best player is 1 of the most decorated midfielders of all time.

I needed that.

[Guest ttfn]

I'm afraid all this 'his legs are gone, his legs aren't what they were, his legs aren't as good as they were back in the good old days', is absolutely key. There's even similar statements in the post-match scores thread. In the quickest, most competitive league in the world, this is vital. For all the ability you have, you can't consistently run out of puff in the latter half of games and it not have a major impact.

Please read... THIS is why Cambiasso should not be a box-to-box, 90 minute per game man. He needs to be used correctly to get the best out of him. This is exactly why Brendan Rogers is advocating different role for Gerrard. He (and the player it would seem) have realised, he cannot keep on doing what he is doing. Same with Lampard. He's used by Man City in a specific way.

When you are banking so much on Cambiasso as STILL being your best player, you will not get the best out of him. He'll get found out for his weaknesses. This is key..don't dismiss it. Nigel seems to be doing so.

Tbf col you were also having a pop at Cambiasso's contribution when played in a 3 and a 4 man midfield, in both cases being at the base and not really moving from there.

[OriginalRobboFOX]

So do you think DD has been good then? Doubt you've read any of my other posts so I'll ignore that first sentence

I doubt you'll have read mine either.

I have never said he's a bad player, never said he's totally passed it nor have I blamed our dip in form on him.

Yes he's a good player sure but I fail to comprehend why Pearson doesn't mix things up in the only part of the team where we have several viable alternatives (King, DD, James, Hammond et al) and we've seen King go, Hammond disappear, DD benched yet Esteban remains as the only constant.

In my eyes time is running out - we do not create enough and centre mid needs to take a chunk of that responsibility....