tickler28 Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 I know we all shudder when we remember the managerial merry go rounds at our club that involved Ill choices such as Megson, Holloway, Allen, Sousa and Sven is this what fans are scared will happen again? I'm just wondering because those backing Pearson still must have some reason other than good for next season. Keep hearing stability banded about. Southampton did OK when they sacked Adkins Palace did OK when Holloway left Sunderland ultimately made the right choice appointing Poyet Derby did right in similar circumstances ditching Clough And United made the right decision (to late to save last season) in ditching Moyes Why can't we be like these?
Guest Sharpe's Fox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 ffs we want Pearson to stay because we think he is a good manager not because we have deep rooted psychological issues.
cc_star Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 I know we all caring when we remember the managerial merry go rounds at our club that involved I'll choices such as Megson, Holloway, Allen, Sousa and Sven is this what fans are scared will happen again? I'm just wondering because those backing Pearson still must have some reason other than good for next season. Keep hearing stability banded about. Southampton did OK when they sacked Adkins Palace did OK when Holloway left Sunderland ultimately made the right choice appointing Poyet Derby did right in similar circumstances ditching Clough And United made the right decision (to late to Dave last season) in ditching Moyes Why can't we be like these? Southampton spent a boat load with massive investment in that squad, LVG at Utd the highest spending club in Europe, Poyet a good move, but let's face it, appointing a potato would have been better than PDC... And Holloway was just as erratic as PDCCan't learn a lot from them, unless you spunk 10s of millions as well and who's to say the previous managers wouldn't have done the same with those funds I'd be annoyed if Pearson was dispensed with without spending, seeing as he achieved what he did with the comparative one arm behind his back after Sven's spending
Bettsj2 Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 ffs we want Pearson to stay because we think he is a good manager not because we have deep rooted psychological issues. He's doing his best to prove that wrong!
tickler28 Posted 20 December 2014 Author Posted 20 December 2014 ffs we want Pearson to stay because we think he is a good manager not because we have deep rooted psychological issues. He may well be a good championship manager but he hasn't a clue at this level
cc_star Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 He may well be a good championship manager but he hasn't a clue at this levelWell your point hasn't proved anythingPDC & Holloway were just erratic loose cannons so anyone replacing them would have raised their stock. There was massive unsustainable investment at Southampton and Utd are the biggest spenders in Europe... Whose to say Adkins & Moyes wouldn't have achieved similar results? Who can we get/who will come who offers more upside than Pearson, but none of the downside of the rest of the clowns we've had or could get? Personally I'd like to see Pearson actually spend rather than make do as he's had to as the club struggled to achieve FFP post-Sven. Although even my patience is being tried
LCFC FOX Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Because even if we go down Pearson knows the team best and has the best chance of getting us back up again. I don't want lots of changes again which makes us an average championship team
RowlattsFox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Comparing to other situations is irrelevant. It worked for Sunderland, Southampton and Crystal Palace but didn't for Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich. Also West Brom were lucky after changing their manager.
SecretPro Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Because even if we go down Pearson knows the team best and has the best chance of getting us back up again. I don't want lots of changes again which makes us an average championship team And IF he gets us back up, what will HE do then that's any different to what HE could have done this time with this massive opportunity that HE has wasted?
tickler28 Posted 20 December 2014 Author Posted 20 December 2014 Because even if we go down Pearson knows the team best and has the best chance of getting us back up again. I don't want lots of changes again which makes us an average championship team You have clearly answered yes to the original question with what you've said
tickler28 Posted 20 December 2014 Author Posted 20 December 2014 Comparing to other situations is irrelevant. It worked for Sunderland, Southampton and Crystal Palace but didn't for Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich. Also West Brom were lucky after changing their manager. Stick = same old same old Twist = who knows
sylofox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Our fans nearly fvcked of our best manager ever. I really am getting pissed off with this the sooner you lot get your way the better. But don't moan if we go down anyway. Don't moan when the new man destroys our squad. Don't moan when he is sacked Don't moan when we fail to get promoted And last but not least Don't moan when our club is fvcked and bust and we are back on viccy park.
cc_star Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Stick = same old same old Twist = who knows Record breaking second season after just falling short first time?
benpicko Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Because even if we go down Pearson knows the team best and has the best chance of getting us back up again. And then we do this again? What if we don't go back up?
johnny the fox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Where is the list of thousands of times sacking managers hasn't worked for clubs?
LCFC FOX Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 If pearson struggles in the championship then I'd sack him. I'd personally give him 10 games next season too. He'd of learnt a lesson this season and will spend stronger if he does take us back up again. With the squad he has and what we did last season surely that is likely.
inckley fox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Our fans nearly fvcked of our best manager ever. I really am getting pissed off with this the sooner you lot get your way the better. But don't moan if we go down anyway. Don't moan when the new man destroys our squad. Don't moan when he is sacked Don't moan when we fail to get promoted And last but not least Don't moan when our club is fvcked and bust and we are back on viccy park. I know we all shudder when we remember the managerial merry go rounds at our club that involved Ill choices such as Megson, Holloway, Allen, Sousa and Sven is this what fans are scared will happen again? I'm just wondering because those backing Pearson still must have some reason other than good for next season. Keep hearing stability banded about. Southampton did OK when they sacked Adkins Palace did OK when Holloway left Sunderland ultimately made the right choice appointing Poyet Derby did right in similar circumstances ditching Clough And United made the right decision (to late to save last season) in ditching Moyes Why can't we be like these? Which Leicester City sackings have been bad sackings? Why would we, as a set of fans, be averse to the idea? In 1987 the sacking of Hamilton led to us climbing out of relegation trouble and having a strong end to the season. In 1991 the sacking of Pleat led to survival, then Little, then the biggest resurgence in the club's fortunes ever. In 2001 the sacking of Taylor came too late if anything. Either way, he was our most disastrous ever manager and fully deserved the sack. In 2006 the sacking of Levein led to us climbing out of the relegation zone and staying up. In 2007 the sacking of Allen came after one of the worst summers of business in our history, and his subsequent career hardly suggests he would have taken us forward. In 2008 we sacked Holloway, who we probably should have sacked earlier, and came straight back up, making us an attractive option for our current owners. In 2011 we sacked Sven, improved on our league placing and ultimately got promoted under Pearson. So which sackings have we been stung by? And who does that leave out? Rob Kelly is quite possibly the only manager who, in the past thirty or forty years of serving p45s, it hasn't been demonstrably a good idea for us to get rid of. And he was hardly an icon. And let's not confuse people calling to fire O'Neill after just eleven games at the club with people calling to fire Pearson, the third or fourth longest serving manager in this division, seventeen games into his fourth season at the club.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 ffs we want Pearson to stay because we think he is a good manager not because we have deep rooted psychological issues. Dream on geezer; just dream on.
sylofox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Where is the list of thousands of times sacking managers hasn't worked for clubs? That is easy to answer. Filed next to the on that says if you sack your manager you will stop up.
bovril Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 All this hypothesising and comparing to other managers is pointless really. The only real measure for any manager in any sphere is results. Fail to get results and you're out of a job. 2 points out of 36 is atrocious honestly.
sylofox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Which Leicester City sackings have been bad sackings? Why would we, as a set of fans, be averse to the idea? In 1987 the sacking of Hamilton led to us climbing out of relegation trouble and having a strong end to the season. In 1991 the sacking of Pleat led to survival, then Little, then the biggest resurgence in the club's fortunes ever. In 2001 the sacking of Taylor came too late if anything. Either way, he was our most disastrous ever manager and fully deserved the sack. In 2006 the sacking of Levein led to us climbing out of the relegation zone and staying up. In 2007 the sacking of Allen came after one of the worst summers of business in our history, and his subsequent career hardly suggests he would have taken us forward. In 2008 we sacked Holloway, who we probably should have sacked earlier, and came straight back up, making us an attractive option for our current owners. In 2011 we sacked Sven, improved on our league placing and ultimately got promoted under Pearson. So which sackings have we been stung by? And who does that leave out? Rob Kelly is quite possibly the only manager who, in the past thirty or forty years of serving p45s, it hasn't been demonstrably a good idea for us to get rid of. And he was hardly an icon. And let's not confuse people calling to fire O'Neill after just eleven games at the club with people calling to fire Pearson, the third or fourth longest serving manager in this division, seventeen games into his fourth season at the club. Taylor you did not see McLintock destroy a top four placed side to relegation. if you want to make a statement check out facts. And Holloway don't blame him or any manager that season MM was the fault you can't change managers like he did plus caretakers and stay up. Any change screws things up how many did we have that season? Not saying Holloway was good for us at all but really all his fault we went down? lol lol
DB11 Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 I want Pearson to stay because he deserves our loyalty after turning our club around and he has proved that, as a club, we are going in the right direction. If we keep Pearson we'll be more than likely able to keep the players if we get relegated, we can strengthen and come back stronger. Change Pearson and it'll be another 10 years in the abyss.
inckley fox Posted 20 December 2014 Posted 20 December 2014 Taylor you did not see McLintock destroy a top four placed side to relegation. if you want to make a statement check out facts. And Holloway don't blame him or any manager that season MM was the fault you can't change managers like he did plus caretakers and stay up. Any change screws things up how many did we have that season? Not saying Holloway was good for us at all but really all his fault we went down? lol lol Well you're just wrong, aren't you? The side finished, what, eleventh the year before McLintock took charge? They never finished top four with Bloomfield, except in your imagination. So you're saying we were wrong to sack Holloway, are you? Because my point is that we were right to sack him, not that he was solely to blame for relegation. If you're disagreeing with this point, then it means you feel we should have kept him and never bothered with Pearson in the first place.
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