Raj Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 I enjoyed last season more than this, put it that way #SittingOnTheFence Tbf its a tough one...if we do escape(via divine intervention) I reckon it would emulate last season.Imagine the mayhem,last game of the season and we beat QPR 1-0 to stay up!!!???
sylofox Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 The top four teams in the Championship have the same points. Norwich are one point behind them. The top seven are covered by just five points. I watched Wolves and Watford draw 2-2 today, really breathless stuff, cracking game. Although disgusted with Forestieri's play acting which got Sako sent off. They'll rescind the red card unless they're utter morons. Sako nearly joined us in the summer but that's a story for another day... Think you already know the answer to that one lol
Soar Fox Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 The top four teams in the Championship have the same points. Norwich are one point behind them. The top seven are covered by just five points. I watched Wolves and Watford draw 2-2 today, really breathless stuff, cracking game. Although disgusted with Forestieri's play acting which got Sako sent off. They'll rescind the red card unless they're utter morons. Sako nearly joined us in the summer but that's a story for another day... Come on Geoff you can't tease us like that. What happened Pearson couldn't handle Sako's personality? He enjoyed a passionate evening with Nigel's daughter in the Hilton a night before signing?
Stevosevic Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 Relegation is battle is better. Problem is we aren't even in a battle as it stands - that's why its so shit
shailen Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 PL all day. We would still see a better standard of football in the games we play, which is what in the end, football should be all about. The entertainment. The reward for success in the Championship, is that you get a chance in the PL and that's the way it should be seen. An improvement. Regardless of how we perform, the league is better and I want to see us perform in such a league. The worst times as a Leicester fan, I have experienced was when we were struggling in the Championship 2004-08. We were a club stuck in limbo, not going anywhere or competing for anything. This season is much more of a joy bearing that in mind.
Dan Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 No-one can say they prefer this season to last and keep a straight face.
Soar Fox Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 No-one can say they prefer this season to last and keep a straight face. Because last season was such a one off and unexpected. If we won the Championship next season amassing more than 102 I still don't think it would top the 2013/14 season.
Matt Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 Because last season was such a one off and unexpected. If we won the Championship next season amassing more than 102 I still don't think it would top the 2013/14 season. It would still top this one though.
shailen Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 No-one can say they prefer this season to last and keep a straight face. Agree. If we are guaranteed a repeat performance I would take relegation this season. But even if we are involved in a Championship promotion battle, it could all go wrong. We have seen two play off campaigns fall through and so we know how difficult it is to achieve promotion. And if we do achieve promotion, the reality is that we are most likely involved in another relegation battle. So why take one step back to go back to the same stage. Not to mention what relegation could do to our chances of promotion. The likelihood is that the core of our squad will be stripped, and we start rebuilding again. Remember, our last few promotion campaigns came at the end of a five year rebuilding process. Would you want to go through that again
Matt Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 Agree. If we are guaranteed a repeat performance I would take relegation this season. But even if we are involved in a Championship promotion battle, it could all go wrong. We have seen two play off campaigns fall through and so we know how difficult it is to achieve promotion. And if we do achieve promotion, the reality is that we are most likely involved in another relegation battle. So why take one step back to go back to the same stage. Not to mention what relegation could do to our chances of promotion. The likelihood is that the core of our squad will be stripped, and we start rebuilding again. Remember, our last few promotion campaigns came at the end of a five year rebuilding process. Would you want to go through that again At the end of the day we have no choice, it's happening. No-one wants to be relegated. These players have let Pearson down, but he had the chance to do something about that in January and bizarrely he seemed to do not alot about it, he's made his bed...
Carl the Llama Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 For the endorphin levels I'd say Championship promotion battle.But taking a step back and looking at it logically, there is no real choice between Premiership & Championship, the Prem wins every time.
shailen Posted 7 March 2015 Posted 7 March 2015 At the end of the day we have no choice, it's happening. No-one wants to be relegated. These players have let Pearson down, but he had the chance to do something about that in January and bizarrely he seemed to do not alot about it, he's made his bed... Well that's your opinion. I'm not getting into an argument about this, but I still think it's possible given the number of games we have and the opposition we face. I agree Pearson could have maybe signed more players in the summer especially. BUT, I think whether it is Pearson saying no or someone else at the club. For me, no manager would ever say no if they had the opportunity to sign more players especially for a club in our position. Is it a FFP problem, or can we not finalise deals for players we go in for? For me, I don;t blame Pearson for the lack of signings or even getting more out of the players. I think they've given their all, but the lack of quality where it counts is what has cost us. That composure we need is what we lack.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I don't blame Pearson for the lack of signings either as I think he's done what he can.... but what I do blame him for is his tactics this season and bizarre team selections/decisions which have cost us..... With better care etc we'd be out the bottom 3 now for sure
MC Prussian Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I don't blame Pearson for the lack of signings either as I think he's done what he can.... but what I do blame him for is his tactics this season and bizarre team selections/decisions which have cost us..... With better care etc we'd be out the bottom 3 now for sure He may have made some odd decisions, but I wish more fans would also take players' performances into account - the amount of time we conceded goals due to terrible positioning, bad clearances, own goals, playing opposing attackers onside or stupendous defensive mix-ups are horrifying. Some of it has been down to bad luck, some of it is just down to plain stupidity (e.g. bad decisions in the heat of the moment). The majority of this squad has never played at this level and the lack of cleverness shows. If it hadn't been for so many individual errors and looking at the amount of narrow defeats, we'd probably be sitting somewhere in 15th or 16th position and this anxiety discussion would be taking place on a different level. Still, there's always the hope they'll be able to turn it around and come up with brilliant performances and results up until the rest of the season.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 He may have made some odd decisions, but I wish more fans would also take players' performances into account - the amount of time we conceded goals due to terrible positioning, bad clearances, own goals, playing opposing attackers onside, defensive mix-ups are horrifying. Some of it has been down to bad luck, some of just down to plain stupidity (e.g. bad decisions in the heat of the moment). The majority of this squad has never played at this level and the lack of cleverness shows. Still, there's always the hope they'll be able to turn it around and come up with brilliant performances and results up until the rest of the season. Yes cant really argue with that. I think there is certain players that have not performed for sure and both players and manager need to take responsibility but I just feel very sure that Pearson has been out of his depth a bit at times with not knowing his best team and formation. Im convinced if he manages at this level again, whether it be with us or someone else, I think he'll be much better for this seasons experience
Matt Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 He may have made some odd decisions, but I wish more fans would also take players' performances into account - the amount of time we conceded goals due to terrible positioning, bad clearances, own goals, playing opposing attackers onside or stupendous defensive mix-ups are horrifying. Some of it has been down to bad luck, some of just down to plain stupidity (e.g. bad decisions in the heat of the moment). The majority of this squad has never played at this level and the lack of cleverness shows. If it hadn't been for so many individual errors and looking at the amount of narrow defeats, we'd probably be sitting somewhere in 15th or 16th position and this anxiety discussion would be taking place on a different level. Still, there's always the hope they'll be able to turn it around and come up with brilliant performances and results up until the rest of the season. This. The buck lies with the players for me. Although in recent weeks i've become pissed off and disillusioned with Pearson, playing stupid tactics and his insistance on continuing to play the same play who keep making the same mistakes. In the summer I had faith in these players, I expected them to make a step up, push onto another level and be competent in this league, obviously so did Pearson, I cannot slag him off if I had the same opinion as him, I was wrong, he was wrong. Now after a few weeks of the season (After the good start) things took a downward turn, it was clear to see these players were not cutting it at this level, Pearson had the chance to do something about this in the January transfer window, he pretty much did nothing, certainly as regards strengthening in key areas are replace terrible players, I cannot forgive that and this where the blame now shifted to Pearson for me.
Strokes Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I'm enjoying this season and I will enjoy next season, whichever division it is.
MC Prussian Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 This. The buck lies with the players for me. Although in recent weeks i've become pissed off and disillusioned with Pearson, playing stupid tactics and his insistance on continuing to play the same play who keep making the same mistakes. In the summer I had faith in these players, I expected them to make a step up, push onto another level and be competent in this league, obviously so did Pearson, I cannot slag him off if I had the same opinion as him, I was wrong, he was wrong. Now after a few weeks of the season (After the good start) things took a downward turn, it was clear to see these players were not cutting it at this level, Pearson had the chance to do something about this in the January transfer window, he pretty much did nothing, certainly as regards strengthening in key areas are replace terrible players, I cannot forgive that and this where the blame now shifted to Pearson for me. The thing is, no one can tell with any certainty why we didn't strengthen in other areas (attacking midfielder, left-back). One can only speculate whether it was either down to lack of transfer funds or because the club couldn't reach an agreement with whomever they were targeting in January. Again, I find it rather simplistic to put (all) the blame on the manager - it's not like he's some kind of miracle maker, is it?
Matt Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 The thing is, no one can tell with any certainty why we didn't strengthen in other areas (attacking midfielder, left-back). One can only speculate whether it was either down to lack of transfer funds or because the club couldn't reach an agreement with whomever they were targeting in January. Again, I find it rather simplistic to put (all) the blame on the manager - it's not like he's some kind of miracle maker, is it? Well if it was a case of lack of funds (And as you say we're only speculating but if it were that case) i'd rather have not spent £10m on Kramaric, he's a good player, i'm impressed with him but he's a pointless signing due to the fact we got no-one in to provide quality for him, no-one to support him, no-one to help him out. I'd rather have saved the £10m and bought one or two (maybe even three) defenders and someone to give us some spark in midfield to improve the team.
MooseBreath Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Imagine if, instead of spending £8m on a striker who rarely starts games, and who basically never plays in a team set up to assist him, we'd spent £2m each on a LB, CB, RB, and LW. You can't get much for £2m but practically any professional footballer would have been an improvement on what we have in those positions.
SpacedX Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Again, I find it rather simplistic to put (all) the blame on the manager - it's not like he's some kind of miracle maker, is it? Er - no, I think if nothing else, he's definitely proved that.
Matt Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Imagine if, instead of spending £8m on a striker who rarely starts games, and who basically never plays in a team set up to assist him, we'd spent £2m each on a LB, CB, RB, and LW. You can't get much for £2m but practically any professional footballer would have been an improvement on what we have in those positions. Yeah or this. I'd rather have not spent the money on one of Ulloa or Kramaric and strenghtened elsewhere. Don't get wrong both have been good players, both have impressed me i'm not slagging them off but it's a case of we could have strengthened elsewhere and made more of a fight of it with the funds we spent on these two, ok you could say without these two we'd be moaning we can't score but when you look how little Villa have scored and they only been in the relegation zone for what? A couple of weeks, that tells me keeping it tight at the back wins more points than scoring goals. I've moaned about setting up not to lose alot recently, but it is a good tactic, that will keep you up, the unfortunate thing for us is we've been setting up not to lose in important games we should be looking at winning and losing them. The fact Ulloa isn't even playing now strengethens the point even more now.
MC Prussian Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Er - no, I think if nothing else, he's definitely proved that. How so?
MC Prussian Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Imagine if, instead of spending £8m on a striker who rarely starts games, and who basically never plays in a team set up to assist him, we'd spent £2m each on a LB, CB, RB, and LW. You can't get much for £2m but practically any professional footballer would have been an improvement on what we have in those positions. You've got to find cheap and reliable defenders or wingers first, though. This isn't a candy shop scenario where you wave with your pennies, expecting to purchase something that is worth five to ten times more. More-than-decent left-backs in particular are very hard to come by. Surprised you don't see the need to chase after an attacking midfielder in your evaluation, because we don't really have one - someone who could assist our strikers going forward and supply them with good passes through the middle.
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