JadeFalcon Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 imho i dont think Cambiasso will leave... he doesn't seem like the player to throw his toys out of the pram just because we got relegated, would love for him to tear the championship a new arsehole
m4DD0gg Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 imho i dont think Cambiasso will leave... he doesn't seem like the player to throw his toys out of the pram just because we got relegated, would love for him to tear the championship a new arsehole I fear he will be off back to lake Como with his family, he has done his 'premier league' experience and shown if he was 5 years younger and not in a team full of ****ing retards he would be an all time premier league legend. When he scored against everton the bloke was practically in tears and is well up for it unlike Calamity who every time he scores he waddles back up to the half way line looking like he got that villa fans dildo in his jacksy....probably something to do with the fact his goals are in the wrong bloody end.
ealingfox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 People actually think another Club will come in for Count Dracula fvck off.
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 You'd have to have some insider insight into the size of contracts etc to offer this type of opinion. The club aren't stupid and, I think, would have built in clauses so we can afford to keep the majority of players next season. Teams that come down can get into that spiral of signing average championship players - it is then when you become a championship team. We need to hang on to as many as possible (I'd say the only sure thing to leave would be Mahrez at the moment, who is getting a lot of praise)... and then, hoping we go straight back, learn from our lessons and strengthen in the key areas!
RonnieTodger Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 There must be something in Kramaric's contract that enables clubs to come in for him on the cheap, if we go down.
Buzzell Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Doubt very much that Kramaric will want to stick around if we do go down.
4ever and ever Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Honestly don't understand these little digs at mahrez "inconsistent" and "flashes of brilliance" in my opinion he has been our most consistent performer all season, always a threat and will move on to play regularly for a team far superior to us. Him, James and kramaric would be the only 3 I would be truly disappointed to lose and the 3 I expect to be picked up by better teams. Cambiasso will also retire (go and play in the mls)
LedStar Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 We are not going down to the Championship! Win against QPR last day of the season sends VILLA down and we stay up! KEEP THE FAITH !!!!
tickler28 Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 No one is going to want to pay over £10 million for Kramaric or Ulloa...fact
Benguin Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Cambiasso will only stay on a coaching role etc I.M.O I expect him however to move to MLS. Knockaert will possibly go as Nige has been an arsehole to him Mahrez will be sold for anywhere between 7 and 10 million Matty James will likely have enquiries and bids but I hope he stays. Kramaric will be bought I.M.O However I'd love him to be loaned to a PL side and then come back to us should we get promoted again. Konchesky leaves Upson Leaves Vardy might get an offer?
Witch Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 If Wasyl will be treated by Pearson only as a reserve player he won't stay. Marcin is one ambitious dude, who wants to play, not to warm a bench with his rear end.
Soar Fox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 It wouldn't surprise me if Pearson offered Upson a new deal and let Wasilewski go.
Unabomber Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Should Nige leave which I hope doesn't happen I wouldn't mind seeing Wasilewski as manager and Cambiasso as assistant manager.
Webbo Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I think we could lose anything between 5 and 15 players, not all of those will be first choice players and there may be a couple of retirements as well.
Jam Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I fear he will be off back to lake Como with his family, he has done his 'premier league' experience and shown if he was 5 years younger and not in a team full of ****ing retards he would be an all time premier league legend. Hahaha!! That's tickled me!
inckley fox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I suspect we'll lose Mahrez and possibly Schlupp, and I think we'll have to work hard to make sure we have replacements, especially if there are irreconcilable problems with Albrighton, who could be a great little player in the second tier, if he could click with our manager. Kramaric and Ulloa could stay, and I think they would be a great pairing in the second tier and, if we were to bounce back, upon their return. Schmeichel, James I expect to stay. Cambiasso to go. But we're unlikely to see Huth, Wasilewski again. And we'd be a bit daft, as I see it, to renew Konchesky, Hammond or Upson. Knockaert will almost certainly not be renewed either. However many we have to replace, it's essential that we buy young. You can't build a whole new top flight side in the summer after getting promoted, you need guys - as was the case for us with James, Mahrez etc. - who evolve with you. For me our older pre-existing players have offered very little this year, Wasilewski aside. Morgan, Konchesky, Nugent, Vardy, Hammond, Taylor-Fletcher really contributed enough. The younger players have been a mixed bag too, but some of them (James, Schlupp, Mahrez) have come out with credit, and others (Moore, Drinkwater) may well do a lot better if they get another chance.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Hopefully the young lad Chilwell will step up at left back
Grewks Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 The thing is, its all hypothetical depending on whether NP is still in charge, whether or not Top wants immediate promotion or is willing to realise that 2-3 years at championship level may be required to develop further. As a result of one season, our fans have appeared to become completely impatient. Some have failed to remember that the likes of drinkwater, james, mahrez, schlupp, vardy have only had a season or two at mid-top championship level. So to expect them to be competitive at the top flight immediately, was in hindsight slightly foolish. If pearson/new manager is required to get immediate promotion, we may see the likes of Morgan retain his place. But if the manager is told he has 2-3 years to create a squad capable of remaining in the top flight. He may decide to bed in the likes of Moore. Probably give jeff a couple of years to learn the left back role etc. This season has been Shit. But as a club, we are in a position which every side in the leagues below us are envious of. We are financially stable, well not just stable, but in great shape. We have young players, who despite an average year, have proved they are very capable at the top of the championship (james, drinky, mahrez, schlupp, de laet). 2-3 years of rebuild, then we go again.
Soar Fox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I very much doubt the owners will be happy to wait another 3 years for promotion. They'll expect an immediate return to the premiership.
Grewks Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I very much doubt the owners will be happy to wait another 3 years for promotion. They'll expect an immediate return to the premiership. Well then, looks like they want to be Derby's points total huh? Cannot remember many, in fact any side, that has been relegated, completely overhauled their squad, and then got promoted and competed well. IF they want promotion straight away, expect morgan, konch etc to still be here next season. I'd rather we do a Bournemouth/Brentford and establish a way of playing and philosophy, rather than use a formation for a handful of games and see how it goes.
inckley fox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 The thing is, its all hypothetical depending on whether NP is still in charge, whether or not Top wants immediate promotion or is willing to realise that 2-3 years at championship level may be required to develop further. As a result of one season, our fans have appeared to become completely impatient. Some have failed to remember that the likes of drinkwater, james, mahrez, schlupp, vardy have only had a season or two at mid-top championship level. So to expect them to be competitive at the top flight immediately, was in hindsight slightly foolish. If pearson/new manager is required to get immediate promotion, we may see the likes of Morgan retain his place. But if the manager is told he has 2-3 years to create a squad capable of remaining in the top flight. He may decide to bed in the likes of Moore. Probably give jeff a couple of years to learn the left back role etc. This season has been Shit. But as a club, we are in a position which every side in the leagues below us are envious of. We are financially stable, well not just stable, but in great shape. We have young players, who despite an average year, have proved they are very capable at the top of the championship (james, drinky, mahrez, schlupp, de laet). 2-3 years of rebuild, then we go again. I'm not sure about the 'financially in great shape'. We're still having our finances looked at, we could soon be on the end of a massive fine which effectively makes it impossible to replace players upon relegation. If there's anything dodgy in what's gone on (and, in spite of rumours to the contrary, I can't say I'm convinced that there are... but there could be) it could be even worse. Relegation has been a disaster for more clubs than it has been a 'bright new beginning'. Just look at how it treated us in 1987, 2002 and 2004. On the other hand, look what happened in 1995. That's what I'm clinging on to.
Grewks Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 I'm not sure about the 'financially in great shape'. We're still having our finances looked at, we could soon be on the end of a massive fine which effectively makes it impossible to replace players upon relegation. If there's anything dodgy in what's gone on (and, in spite of rumours to the contrary, I can't say I'm convinced that there are... but there could be) it could be even worse. Relegation has been a disaster for more clubs than it has been a 'bright new beginning'. Just look at how it treated us in 1987, 2002 and 2004. On the other hand, look what happened in 1995. That's what I'm clinging on to. Cannot think of a single side in the leagues below us who would not be envious of our financial power.
Soar Fox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Well then, looks like they want to be Derby's points total huh? Cannot remember many, in fact any side, that has been relegated, completely overhauled their squad, and then got promoted and competed well. IF they want promotion straight away, expect morgan, konch etc to still be here next season. I'd rather we do a Bournemouth/Brentford and establish a way of playing and philosophy, rather than use a formation for a handful of games and see how it goes. I'd be happy for Morgan to still be here next season as we know he's competent at that level.However should we get promoted I'd like to think we would learn from our mistakes from this season and add genuine quality and experience to the squad. Also people were saying "we weren't ready to get promoted in 2012/13 the players need time together it's to early" then when we got promoted it was "this squad is brilliant they've had time to develop we'll be fine" now your saying "they need time to develop" With a better manager I'm absouletly positive this team would/ could have done better than it currently is doing.
Claridge Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Only players i want to stay are hamer, kram, cambiasso and mahrez. Rest can **** off.Like the way the title calls our players stars.mind you they are meant to be millions of miles away.Taylor fletchers more of a solar system.
inckley fox Posted 8 March 2015 Posted 8 March 2015 Well then, looks like they want to be Derby's points total huh? Cannot remember many, in fact any side, that has been relegated, completely overhauled their squad, and then got promoted and competed well. IF they want promotion straight away, expect morgan, konch etc to still be here next season. I'd rather we do a Bournemouth/Brentford and establish a way of playing and philosophy, rather than use a formation for a handful of games and see how it goes. I wouldn't expect promotion if we have a 34/35 year-old Konchesky in the side. And I wouldn't expect us to stay up afterwards if Morgan is still our captain. There will be people in the club considering this as well, I'm sure. I have at least that much faith in them. As for getting relegated, thoroughly restructuring, returning and staying up. Well, there aren't too many sides in recent years who have gone down and come straight back up without at least changing the manager. QPR are the most recent example and they ended up changing managers this year, and it looks like they're going down. Most sides who have gone down and opted for stability have stayed down too. As for the last side to go down, restructure, come straight back up and stay up, I think West Brom signed twelve or thirteen players before and during 2009-10, as well as changing manager. West Ham changed manager and - I've just checked - signed 19 players and let go of 33 in 2011-12.
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