FoxyPV Posted 6 February 2013 Posted 6 February 2013 A quote from PMQ today: ATOS have now pronounced Richard III fit for work
Kitchandro Posted 6 February 2013 Posted 6 February 2013 Classic when that woman from the society starting roaring because they were talking about his bent spine. Had me in stitches!
Babylon Posted 6 February 2013 Posted 6 February 2013 Labour's Michael McCann asks if Atos has declared Richard III fit for work. Cameron says that "case has not come his way. But he hopes Richard III will be a boost to the city of Leicester."
Guest Posted 6 February 2013 Posted 6 February 2013 My Brother went to Alderman Newtons. I used to play in the car park whilst waiting for him. Question now is where should we bury Andy?
21st Century Fox Posted 6 February 2013 Posted 6 February 2013 I wonder if whoever managed to puncicate him got away on a vespa.
ousefox Posted 6 February 2013 Posted 6 February 2013 Hope it comes to York just to piss all of you off, already signed the petition But honestly it deserves to stay in Leicester. Oh and the Terry's factory has closed down.....
Vlad the Fox Posted 6 February 2013 Posted 6 February 2013 Taken from this is York. Blancsanglier says... 5:58pm Wed 6 Feb 13 I just cannot believe what I am reading! When the news broke last August of the proposed 'dig' we in the Richard lll Foundation immediately started a petition for Richard to be bought home to York. Our CEO Jo Anne Ricca gave interviews on all York radio stations, she contacted all Yorkshire MP's, she gave numerous interviews with Yorkshire newspapers. Our petition quickly reached the initial target of 1,000 signatures from all over the world. We emailed, wrote York Minster and all MP's - what was the result? Nothing. York minster remained silent and York Council hardly murmured. When the dig was proposed, forms had to be completed and the place of burial had to be stated, if any human remains were found. The law is that they have to go to the nearest consecrated church.... i.e. Leicester. All this was 5 months ago so now it has all been signed and sealed why has York suddenly woke up and is repeating everything we implored them with months ago? I am disgusted with their attitude to be honest, there is NO question in my mind that Richard belongs in York but now it is too late - they were late sending their men to Bosworth in 1485 and they are late again coming to his aid in 2013. Shame on you York!!! York had its chance and couldn't be bothered to send its men again. Richard III stays in Leicester I think.
pSinatra Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Taken from this is York. Blancsanglier says... 5:58pm Wed 6 Feb 13 I just cannot believe what I am reading! When the news broke last August of the proposed 'dig' we in the Richard lll Foundation immediately started a petition for Richard to be bought home to York. Our CEO Jo Anne Ricca gave interviews on all York radio stations, she contacted all Yorkshire MP's, she gave numerous interviews with Yorkshire newspapers. Our petition quickly reached the initial target of 1,000 signatures from all over the world. We emailed, wrote York Minster and all MP's - what was the result? Nothing. York minster remained silent and York Council hardly murmured. When the dig was proposed, forms had to be completed and the place of burial had to be stated, if any human remains were found. The law is that they have to go to the nearest consecrated church.... i.e. Leicester. All this was 5 months ago so now it has all been signed and sealed why has York suddenly woke up and is repeating everything we implored them with months ago? I am disgusted with their attitude to be honest, there is NO question in my mind that Richard belongs in York but now it is too late - they were late sending their men to Bosworth in 1485 and they are late again coming to his aid in 2013. Shame on you York!!! York had its chance and couldn't be bothered to send its men again. Richard III stays in Leicester I think. Nobody expected that crackpot woman (Philippa Langley) to find anything & that's why nobody bothered to do anything about it. Through a combination of weirdness & incredible good fortune, they located Richard III's remains. It is the most fortunate of digs I'v ever known (& I know a few archaeologists ). How many holes in a field have Time Team dug & all they've ever found is the handle from some medieval cooking utensil? Even if York had have been arsed to do anything beforehand, it looks like it would never happened anyway.
Guest Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 I wonder if whoever managed to puncicate him got away on a vespa. Are you inferring that Roman Catholics would be involved?
Vlad the Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 I agree. I think that letter perfectly highlights the attitude of york, someone gets in touch who they think is a loon with their head in the clouds, and they totally blank her. Now they're realising their **** up. I've not had chance to watch the programme yet but from reading on here and in the paper I also get the impression that the society weren't going to have too much say in where the bones were going. The letter to york council may have been an attempt to stir up interest and stop his burial in Leicester when the licence was applied for in the first place.
MikeyT Posted 7 February 2013 Author Posted 7 February 2013 http://www.thisislei...l#axzz2K6QT7oue The decision on the final resting place of Richard III lays squarely in the hands of the University of Leicester. Officials at the Ministry of Justice stated categorically yesterday that the university alone has the power to decide where his bones are reinterred. The statement is likely to derail a campaign launched to take the remains from the Leicester to be buried in York. Council bosses in York said they would write to the Queen to state the city's case and had started an e-petition, which yesterday had 6,500 signatures. But a Ministry of Justice spokesman said: "When applying for an archaeological exhumation licence, the applicant must state that the remains will be laid to rest at a suitable location. "The licence we issued states that the applicant (the University of Leicester) would, no later than August 31, 2014, deposit the remains at Jewry Wall Museum or have them reinterred at St Martin's Cathedral or in a burial ground in which interments may legally take place. "The precise location of reburial is now for the University of Leicester. "This means that no one except the licence holder, i.e. the University of Leicester, can decide where the remains end up." Richard Taylor, deputy registrar at the University of Leicester, said: "We have said all along that the remains will be reinterred at Leicester Cathedral and I can see no reason why that decision would change." City mayor Sir Peter Soulsby has previously said the bones of Richard III would leave the city over his dead body. Speaking yesterday, he said: "The decision has already been made. "All the permissions have been granted and the various authorities involved have agreed that the interment will take place in Leicester." The Church of England has welcomed the opportunity to house the remains and said keeping the bones within the parish of St Martin's was the next natural step. Leicester Cathedral Cannon Chancellor David Monteith said: "There's no question. "It seems rather apt to reinter the bones at Leicester Cathedral, considering that Grey Friars is in the ancient parish of St Martin's. "That just follows good ancient burial practices." The cathedral is in talks with a number of groups, including the Richard III Society, regarding a tomb. However, it must get permission from English Heritage and the Cathedrals Fabric Commission of England before any work to alter the interior of the building. Read more: http://www.thisislei...l#ixzz2KCbEj800 Follow us: @thisisleics on Twitter | thisisleicestershire on Facebook
Chilwell_Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Might have already come up but here is a link to sign the 'Keep Richard III in Leicester' petition. https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/39708
indierich06 Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 If the cameras weren't there the others would be proper taking the piss. The body would never have been found if she wasn't so 'weird'.......but there's no need to cry all the time over a guy who's been dead for over 500 years!! It's always upsetting when someone you don't know dies 500 years ago. She was a right nutter, couple of spanners short of a toolbox for sure.
Voll Blau Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 When did Soulsby go all Charlton Heston? "Over my dead body..."
indierich06 Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 When did Soulsby go all Charlton Heston? "Over my dead body..." You'll have to take that monarch's skeleton from my COLD DEAD HANDS!
Babylon Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 So now Scarborough Council says the people of Leicester can't be trusted... Because 500 years ago we lost him. These people are making themselves look exceptionally pathetic.
Spudulike Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Just watched a programme on the beeb and the interviewer said 'well, he's Richard of York so that's were he belongs'. Jeez, how many more times ?? He wasn't Richard of York, that was his father. He was the Duke of Gloucester. They also went on about the remains having an arrow head lodged in it. Derrr, it was a Roman nail that happened to be in the hole. The sad thing is, the people signing that York petition watch this stuff and get taken in by it.
Rincewind Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 he doesn't well enough to travel . All skin and bones.
MikeyT Posted 9 February 2013 Author Posted 9 February 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk...rshire-21369077 An academic has recorded what he thinks could be the accent of Richard III - and was surprised to realise he may have talked with a West Midlands twang. Dr Philip Shaw, from the University of Leicester, studied two letters written by the last Plantagenet king. The spellings gave him clues as to how Richard might have spoken. But Dr Shaw said the accent was probably not the same as the distinctive one associated with modern-day Birmingham. He suggested that Richard could have picked up his accent from staying at Ludlow Castle in Shropshire, which his father owned. On Monday experts from the University of Leicester revealed that bones uncovered from a city centre car park last year were those of Richard III. Someone from Dudley Dr Shaw, from the university's English department, looked at two letters, the first written in 1469, before Richard became king, which is an urgent appeal for a £100 loan. The second letter, from 1483, was written following his ascent to the throne and two years before his death at the Battle of Bosworth. Since revealing his theory about the way Richard spoke, Dr Shaw has heard recordings of the opening soliloquy in Shakespeare's play Richard III sounding like someone from Dudley. Dr Shaw said King Richard's accent can be guessed at from his spelling But he said he could not be more specific in terms of locating Richard's twang than the West Midlands, and believes the accent would be markedly different from the modern-day one. Dr Shaw said: "It would have sounded very different to accents of that region today because the language has changed quite a bit since then. "It could be he picked up his accent from staying at Ludlow Castle, which his father owned, so maybe he sounded like he was from Shropshire." Dr Shaw said there was no standardised accent found among the nobility and royalty in the 15th Century but he was still shocked at his discovery. "I was surprised, I didn't necessarily expect to find that part of the country, but we don't really know much about his education or where he lived as a child."
Smudge Posted 10 February 2013 Posted 10 February 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk...rshire-21369077 An academic has recorded what he thinks could be the accent of Richard III - and was surprised to realise he may have talked with a West Midlands twang. Dr Philip Shaw, from the University of Leicester, studied two letters written by the last Plantagenet king. The spellings gave him clues as to how Richard might have spoken. But Dr Shaw said the accent was probably not the same as the distinctive one associated with modern-day Birmingham. He suggested that Richard could have picked up his accent from staying at Ludlow Castle in Shropshire, which his father owned. On Monday experts from the University of Leicester revealed that bones uncovered from a city centre car park last year were those of Richard III. Someone from Dudley Dr Shaw, from the university's English department, looked at two letters, the first written in 1469, before Richard became king, which is an urgent appeal for a £100 loan. The second letter, from 1483, was written following his ascent to the throne and two years before his death at the Battle of Bosworth. Since revealing his theory about the way Richard spoke, Dr Shaw has heard recordings of the opening soliloquy in Shakespeare's play Richard III sounding like someone from Dudley. Dr Shaw said King Richard's accent can be guessed at from his spelling But he said he could not be more specific in terms of locating Richard's twang than the West Midlands, and believes the accent would be markedly different from the modern-day one. Dr Shaw said: "It would have sounded very different to accents of that region today because the language has changed quite a bit since then. "It could be he picked up his accent from staying at Ludlow Castle, which his father owned, so maybe he sounded like he was from Shropshire." Dr Shaw said there was no standardised accent found among the nobility and royalty in the 15th Century but he was still shocked at his discovery. "I was surprised, I didn't necessarily expect to find that part of the country, but we don't really know much about his education or where he lived as a child." He speaks with an accent-grave now
Guest MattP Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk...rshire-21369077 An academic has recorded what he thinks could be the accent of Richard III - and was surprised to realise he may have talked with a West Midlands twang. Dr Philip Shaw, from the University of Leicester, studied two letters written by the last Plantagenet king. The spellings gave him clues as to how Richard might have spoken. But Dr Shaw said the accent was probably not the same as the distinctive one associated with modern-day Birmingham. He suggested that Richard could have picked up his accent from staying at Ludlow Castle in Shropshire, which his father owned. On Monday experts from the University of Leicester revealed that bones uncovered from a city centre car park last year were those of Richard III. Someone from Dudley Dr Shaw, from the university's English department, looked at two letters, the first written in 1469, before Richard became king, which is an urgent appeal for a £100 loan. The second letter, from 1483, was written following his ascent to the throne and two years before his death at the Battle of Bosworth. Since revealing his theory about the way Richard spoke, Dr Shaw has heard recordings of the opening soliloquy in Shakespeare's play Richard III sounding like someone from Dudley. Dr Shaw said King Richard's accent can be guessed at from his spelling But he said he could not be more specific in terms of locating Richard's twang than the West Midlands, and believes the accent would be markedly different from the modern-day one. Dr Shaw said: "It would have sounded very different to accents of that region today because the language has changed quite a bit since then. "It could be he picked up his accent from staying at Ludlow Castle, which his father owned, so maybe he sounded like he was from Shropshire." Dr Shaw said there was no standardised accent found among the nobility and royalty in the 15th Century but he was still shocked at his discovery. "I was surprised, I didn't necessarily expect to find that part of the country, but we don't really know much about his education or where he lived as a child." Bollocks, had that been the case he would clearly have had a Wolverhampton tash to go with it like the rest of them.
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