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If the cameras weren't there the others would be proper taking the piss.

The body would never have been found if she wasn't so 'weird'.......but there's no need to cry all the time over a guy who's been dead for over 500 years!!

I reckon it was more of the fact that she'd dedicated years of her life researching and trying to find where he was and to actually discover him when there wasn't much hope. But agree, she was a complete loony. lol
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Watching it I got the feeling that C4 didn't expect to find anything and that's why they sent in a comedian/actor to do the presenting.

Hoping to having jokey programme about some looney who thought she could find a lost king.... when the body turned up they didn't quite know what to do or how to present it!

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Watching it I got the feeling that C4 didn't expect to find anything and that's why they sent in a comedian/actor to do the presenting.

Hoping to having jokey programme about some looney who thought she could find a lost king.... when the body turned up they didn't quite know what to do or how to present it!

That's what I thought. It started out as a story about an odd woman from Scotland & a society of people from around the world.......The Ricardians!! They were just as odd as her when he was chatting with them over the internet. The digging up of a car park was something to hold the programme together.

I actually thought the guy from Horrible Histories did a good job of presenting........cracking jokes when it all got a bit too weird. Probably the oddest moment, when they draped the Royal Standard over a cardboard box of bones. No wonder the archaeologist woman wanted nothing to do with it!! lol

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Merc

He was right at the spot I predicted 27 years ago

Historian David Baldwin is feeling very pleased with himself after making a startling prediction 27 years ago regarding the Greyfriars project.

In 1986, he wrote an article claiming the remains of Richard III would be found in the northern part of the Grey Friars church and that the discovery would take place in the 21st century.

The historian, from Oadby, used scores of medieval accounts of the Battle of Bosworth.

He correctly theorised the final resting of place of Richard was buried close to New Street, in the choir of the church – the area between the nave and the sanctuary – and would be found after about 30 years.

He said: "I thought it was very unlikely anyone would actually dig where I'd said.

"But I'm very pleased it's been of use and, to be honest, even though I put a great deallb_icon1.png of effort into the research, I'm slightly surprised how accurate I actually was."

David's prediction was published in the Transactionsicon1.png of the Leicestershire Archaeological and Historical Society.

His work was used by the University of Leicester archaeological team when picking their trenches.

Lead archaeologist Richard Buckley said: "David wasn't the first to say Richard III was buried at Greyfriars, but what was key was he pulled together all the sources – and it was properly sourced.

"That meant we could check his predictions and be sure what he was saying was plausible."

David said: "Richard under the car park is not a new concept, but it has been very pleasing to have my work vindicated.

"When you put your ideas forward, you don't expect to see them proven to this extent.

"I'll admit I didn't think there was much chance of finding anything, but I did hope for the best."

David picked the north part of the site after studying the layouts of other friaries built at about the same time.

He also took into account evidence from later historical sources, such as Alderman Robert Herrick, who built a mansion on the grounds of the dissolved friary.

In the 1600s, Herrick erected a 3ft stone pillar in memory of Richard which was inscribed with the legend "Here lies the body of Richard III some time King of England".

David said: "Herrick had laid a plaque at the grave of Richard.

"He (Herrick) was a very respected man – he was Mayor of Leicester and would not have made such a gesture had he thought the body had been thrown into the Soar."

Map-maker and historian John Speed had claimed Richard's body had been exhumed and cast into the River Soar in his History of Great Britain, published in 1611.

David said: "Herrick was born in 1540 – at about the time Richard's body is thought to have been thrown into the river – so he must have had some amount of confidence the myth was not true."

David also said Speed had made a mistake and visited Black Friars, a few miles away, when writing his account.

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Probably the oddest moment, when they draped the Royal Standard over a cardboard box of bones. No wonder the archaeologist woman wanted nothing to do with it!! lol

That was cringe worthy... couldn't help but laugh as the two archaeologists stood there staring at the woman and camp bloke. you could just see in their eyes they were thinking "who the feck are these nutters... it's a few bones in a box.

Was watching the Queen parody twitter account during the programme, that was the best bit.

"Elizabeth Windsor â€@Queen_UK

Transporting a monarch, even one as unwell as Richard III, in a cardboard box and/or a Vauxhall Corsa is actually still treason."

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There's a Richard III exhibition at the Guildhall museum starting on Friday 8th Feb.

From February 8th, visitors can find out more about one of the most exciting archaeological discoveries of recent years with the opening of an exhibition at Leicester’s medieval Guildhall.

http://www.leicester...ons/richardiii/

Just seen this too. I'm gonna go. Sounds interesting.

https://www.facebook.com/events/212796165525617/?fref=tck

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I thought the decision had been made with government ruling to bury him in Leicester Cathedral.

So did I.

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Wouldn't want that to be changed would we though. Also a large Leicester petition takes away any York claims about the popularity of a burial in their city.

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I'm thinking York hasn't got a hope as well - still a few moments to fill in the Leicester petition would be appreciated. Just to make sure eh.

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Just heard someone from York on 5Live putting forward York's argument, Basically it's he liked it there so he should be buried there. Crap argument. In all seriousness this find and burial will be huge for Leicester and could finally give tourists a real reason to visit. Richard III is enshrined in the history of this City and has been for the past 500 years. Someone should remind the people of York had it not been for the city of Leicester and it's University, Richard would still be under that car park. York is the place for the story of his life, Leicester is the place for the story of his death. So even though it might seem like York hasn't got a chance I hope everyone on here signs that petition.

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York can do one.

The excavation and investigation was only agreed by the Gov't and the university on the agreement that he would be buried in Leicester.

So F*kc off York and take your Terry's chocolate orange with you.

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As i have posted in the other 'bones' thread ...

It was debated in the commons earlier, the result basically told York to do one, they said the decision was up to Leicester uni and the Richard III society, and just for good measure they also said they see no reason why he should not be kept in Leicester.

Also due to the law of archiology and exhumation it basically said he remains in Leicester.

EDIT found this:

The choice of burial site has been somewhat controversial, as there have been proposals for Richard to be buried at Westminster Abbey alongside 17 other English and British kings, or in York Minster, which some claim was Richard's preferred burial site. The Conservative MP and historian Chris Skidmore proposed that a state funeral should be held for the deceased king, while John Mann, the Labour MP for Bassetlaw, suggested that the body should be buried in Worksop in his constituency - half-way between York and Leicester. However, Sir Peter Soulsby has said: "Those bones leave Leicester over my dead body." No will or other documentation of Richard's wishes survives, so the Ministry of Justice licence leaves the decision to Leicester City Council and Leicester University. The Richard III Society has previously suggested burying the body in York but its secretary, Sandra Wadley, says: "We thought it was worth putting a try in for York, but it was always an optimistic shout. As long as he receives a proper interment, Leicester is fine by us.[/font]

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