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As I am bored with the progress of everything that is "in the best interest of the club", I thought I would like to point out that nothing will happen next week.  :D  :unsure:  :whistle:

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Pass me the pills and the razor blades.

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I disagree....

 

several people will become bookies favourite as next manager

several people will be either lauded as the next best thing... or laughed at as lucky to manage a pub side

The owners will be blamed, defended, celebrated and abused

Foxestalk will see dozens of posters go into melt down

 

The sun will come up, tomorrow. :)

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I don't see why nothing will happen. Walsh and Shakespeare will take the trip. Manager can still be appointed before either flying out or waiting until they come back.

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Not having a manager before the trip isn't ideal, not for training purposes, but for bonding.

When quoting best interests of the club, they meant to say "best interests of King Power" which is fair enough, but at least be honest about it

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Why does everything have to be now now now? The owners are obviously working to find a replacement. I highly doubt that they'd be sat on their arses, twiddling their thumbs wondering what to do. The club is their livelihood. It's part of their business. I'm sure they've not done this to spite the fans.

 

Would you prefer them rush an appointment and get it wrong? Or consider all of the options and make a well informed appointment? 

 

I knew we were a fickle bunch - but the reaction from some of the fans since Pearson's sacking is nothing short of embarrassing. We're all concerned but - bloody hell!

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I disagree....

several people will become bookies favourite as next manager

several people will be either lauded as the next best thing... or laughed at as lucky to manage a pub side

The owners will be blamed, defended, celebrated and abused

Foxestalk will see dozens of posters go into melt down

The sun will come up, tomorrow. :)

Seven is very specific....

1. I wouldn't be surprised to see a non- white manager after our recent profile damage.

2. I think we'll know more Sunday night for two reasons. They'll want the manager to link up in Austria with the squad and also there are managers from abroad who have games at the weekend.

3. The owners are going about their business quietly and professionally which implies to me that they are approaching higher profile targets from abroad - if they came in for a manager already at a club in the UK I think there would be leaks.

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Seven is very specific....

1. I wouldn't be surprised to see a non- white manager after our recent profile damage.

2. I think we'll know more Sunday night for two reasons. They'll want the manager to link up in Austria with the squad and also there are managers from abroad who have games at the weekend.

3. The owners are going about their business quietly and professionally which implies to me that they are approaching higher profile targets from abroad - if they came in for a manager already at a club in the UK I think there would be leaks.

 

Touche :)

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Why does everything have to be now now now? The owners are obviously working to find a replacement. I highly doubt that they'd be sat on their arses, twiddling their thumbs wondering what to do. The club is their livelihood. It's part of their business. I'm sure they've not done this to spite the fans.

 

Would you prefer them rush an appointment and get it wrong? Or consider all of the options and make a well informed appointment? 

 

I knew we were a fickle bunch - but the reaction from some of the fans since Pearson's sacking is nothing short of embarrassing. We're all concerned but - bloody hell!

 

I think people are right to be worried about the fact that sacking Pearson has pretty much halted any transfer movement until a new manager is in place. Regardless of whether the Club are happy to make signings without a manager, I doubt there'd be many players who'd sign without knowing who'll be coming in first - unless all they care about is how much they're getting paid. 

 

And I've also seen nothing to suggest that the owners have the ability to make a progressive and well informed appointment. Sousa (however much they were involved in that) and Sven were useless. Pearson only came back because others turned the position down. Now they've sacked the best manager we've had since 2000 (possibly for legitimate reasons, we don't know) and have to find another. Not sure that I can operate on blind faith on this one unfortunately. 

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I think people are right to be worried about the fact that sacking Pearson has pretty much halted any transfer movement until a new manager is in place. Regardless of whether the Club are happy to make signings without a manager, I doubt there'd be many players who'd sign without knowing who'll be coming in first - unless all they care about is how much they're getting paid. 

 

And I've also seen nothing to suggest that the owners have the ability to make a progressive and well informed appointment. Sousa (however much they were involved in that) and Sven were useless. Pearson only came back because others turned the position down. Now they've sacked the best manager we've had since 2000 (possibly for legitimate reasons, we don't know) and have to find another. Not sure that I can operate on blind faith on this one unfortunately. 

 

Worried yes - but the sheer panic is slightly embarrassing. 

 

I take your point on transfers halting. 

 

Soasa was appointed before they were our owners though wasn't he? I'm fairly sure that was Mandaric's work to make the club more "attractive". Sven, I take your point. I would hope that they have learnt their lesson from that appointment though.

 

( Edit: Sousa was appointed on July the 7th 2010. Owners announced and confirmed August 2010. )

 

And in re-appointing Pearson. Pfft. I'm not sure I buy into the whole "others turned us down", I can't imagine that Pearson was the "easy" option at all. So some leg work obviously went into getting him to come back in terms of compensation with Hull etc.

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Why does everything have to be now now now? The owners are obviously working to find a replacement. I highly doubt that they'd be sat on their arses, twiddling their thumbs wondering what to do. The club is their livelihood. It's part of their business. I'm sure they've not done this to spite the fans.

 

Would you prefer them rush an appointment and get it wrong? Or consider all of the options and make a well informed appointment? 

 

I knew we were a fickle bunch - but the reaction from some of the fans since Pearson's sacking is nothing short of embarrassing. We're all concerned but - bloody hell!

 

A new manager will need time to get his ideas and strategies across to the players. The players will need time to get to know the Manager and want to play for him.

 

This process can take the best part of a whole season. We’ve got four weeks and counting down.

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As I am bored with the progress of everything that is "in the best interest of the club", I thought I would like to point out that nothing will happen next week.  :D  :unsure:  :whistle:

lol you did as I suggested :-)

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A new manager will need time to get his ideas and strategies across to the players. The players will need time to get to know the Manager and want to play for him.

 

This process can take the best part of a whole season. We’ve got four weeks and counting down.

 

Very true.

 

But is 3 weeks with the right man, not better than 4 weeks with the wrong man?

 

Personally, I trust the owners to make a good decision. We're an attractive proposition for any manager I feel. Young developing team, supportive owners, great fans. No reason why we'd have to settle with someone like Preki at all.

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Worried yes - but the sheer panic is slightly embarrassing. 

 

I take your point on transfers halting. 

 

Soasa was appointed before they were our owners though wasn't he? I'm fairly sure that was Mandaric's work to make the club more "attractive". Sven, I take your point. I would hope that they have learnt their lesson from that appointment though.

 

( Edit: Sousa was appointed on July the 7th 2010. Owners announced and confirmed August 2010. )

 

And in re-appointing Pearson. Pfft. I'm not sure I buy into the whole "others turned us down", I can't imagine that Pearson was the "easy" option at all. So some leg work obviously went into getting him to come back in terms of compensation with Hull etc.

 

Inckly Fox posted some links in the Pearson Sacking thread I believe that covered an interview with Pearson in 2010 that said, while they didn't solely push him out, Mandaric was showing Sousa AND the new owners around the club at the time of the Cardiff playoffs. It would be naive I think to not assume that NP added 2 and 2 and rightly got 4 - that the new owners were in favour of Sousa, and not him.

 

It's all conjecture I know, but I think its a fairly reasonable argument. It may have been that Mandaric was advising them that Sousa was the better option, we don't know. 

 

What we do know though, is that its clear they sacked NP without a plan, or without a concrete plan on who they wanted in to replace him. Therefore, its not too much of a stretch to pessimistically think they might not really know what they were doing.  

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Worried yes - but the sheer panic is slightly embarrassing. 

 

I take your point on transfers halting. 

 

Soasa was appointed before they were our owners though wasn't he? I'm fairly sure that was Mandaric's work to make the club more "attractive". Sven, I take your point. I would hope that they have learnt their lesson from that appointment though.

 

( Edit: Sousa was appointed on July the 7th 2010. Owners announced and confirmed August 2010. )

 

And in re-appointing Pearson. Pfft. I'm not sure I buy into the whole "others turned us down", I can't imagine that Pearson was the "easy" option at all. So some leg work obviously went into getting him to come back in terms of compensation with Hull etc.

 

New manager comes in July 7th, owners confirmed a month later... It's not like they'd been sounding it out for 6 months or whatever & going through preliminary discussions...

 

- Yeah we like the club, we'll take it, but the manager isn't going to shift boxes of oversize Toblerone, can you replace him with a male model who's won a gold medal at something?

 

- Oh he's shit, lets get rid.

 

- Sven is a man of the world & looking for a payday, he's won some stuff (by spending quarter of a billion, way back in the day). He'll be good.

 

- Oh he's shit too & his burn rate is unsustainable

 

- Now what, errrm I dunno. Hang on, I remember seeing some poster of some manager down at the KP, get him on the phone. MoN? Yep, let's get him

 

- Oh he's not interested now what

 

- Errm actually the club was doing ok before we came along, lets get that guy back again

 

- Oh his behavior is weird, lets sack him... No MoN has turned us down again & we haven't got anyone else available, lets sack him at the end of the season even if he meets or exceed all targets

 

- Right he's done everything we asked of him. Hang on there's Sven 2.0 looking for a job, lets sack NP

 

- Hiddink has turned us down.

 

- OH SHIT

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Why does everything have to be now now now? The owners are obviously working to find a replacement. I highly doubt that they'd be sat on their arses, twiddling their thumbs wondering what to do. The club is their livelihood. It's part of their business. I'm sure they've not done this to spite the fans.

Would you prefer them rush an appointment and get it wrong? Or consider all of the options and make a well informed appointment?

I knew we were a fickle bunch - but the reaction from some of the fans since Pearson's sacking is nothing short of embarrassing. We're all concerned but - bloody hell!

It would have been 'in the best interests of the club' if they had sorted out and agreed on a replacement BEFORE sacking Nige Imo.

Pre season with the manager that you plan to sack or equally, without the manager who will be there when the PL kicks off is not ideal.

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