Sir Fynwy Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 The fact that people who are part of this elite club are turning on the most powerful elected official in the country, aided by one of the most widely read typically Tory supporting newspapers is more significant than the actual post pigor mortis mouth rape. DC is gone after the next election (if you believe him) so the papers and his allies have no interest in propping him up, it'll get worse throughout his term with 'friends' jockeying for position.
Guest MattP Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Lots of shady clubs like the Bullingdon have initiations that are designed to make sure the members have 'dirt' on each other and a good reason to stay loyal to the group, I wouldn't be surprised if sticking your cock in dead animals is one of the tamer rituals. I think you are over thinking that a bit, loads of these clubs ranging from the armed forces to cricket to rugby etc that have a public school influence does all sorts of these weird games, it's long term tradition and moronic drunkeness more than anything cynical. Our Rugby team once played a game of freckles, you'll never engage in anything more disgusting. As for the story it's a shocker, no doubt about that, as the leader of the country the last thing you want is people thinking you put your cock in a pig's mouth and whether it is true or not doesn't even matter now, people will simply believe it even it has come from someone with a grudge and printed in the Daily Mail. I'm amazed Isobel Oakshott has got involved in this as well,a young journo with serious contacts in the Tories and she'll be Malcolm Tuckered after this. I do think this could even hasten the departure of DC even more, maybe leaving the role very early and calling a snap election, it could suit everyone - Cameron gets to leave with his (at least political) reputation in tact, Osbourne comes in to win a snap election as current polls indicate, Labour can ship out Corbyn before any serious long term damage is done and Boris can wait to see if it goes tits up before launching his leadership campaign. Hopefully soon Gorgeous George can arrive, Labour have a proper left wing leader now, hopefully we can have a proper right wing one and no better time to do it then when you occupy the centre. I think Alf is right on who spilt the beans as well, Boris and Cameron's relationship is at a all time low at the minute. I'd also like to beg the people who write the Thick of It to at least do a Christmas special, politics at the minute is being totally wasted without that show, the SNP, Corbyn and pig gate could see the show reach the levels of spitting image.
Dr The Singh Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Lots of shady clubs like the Bullingdon have initiations that are designed to make sure the members have 'dirt' on each other and a good reason to stay loyal to the group, I wouldn't be surprised if sticking your cock in dead animals is one of the tamer rituals. To be fair Sir, me and you have done alot worse together!!!
Sir Fynwy Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 To be fair Sir, me and you have done alot worse together!!! shhhhh or I'll be writing Dr Singh the unauthorised biography
Captain... Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 I think you are over thinking that a bit, loads of these clubs ranging from the armed forces to cricket to rugby etc that have a public school influence does all sorts of these weird games, it's long term tradition and moronic drunkeness more than anything cynical. Our Rugby team once played a game of freckles, you'll never engage in anything more disgusting. As for the story it's a shocker, no doubt about that, as the leader of the country the last thing you want is people thinking you put your cock in a pig's mouth and whether it is true or not doesn't even matter now, people will simply believe it even it has come from someone with a grudge and printed in the Daily Mail. I'm amazed Isobel Oakshott has got involved in this as well,a young journo with serious contacts in the Tories and she'll be Malcolm Tuckered after this. I do think this could even hasten the departure of DC even more, maybe leaving the role very early and calling a snap election, it could suit everyone - Cameron gets to leave with his (at least political) reputation in tact, Osbourne comes in to win a snap election as current polls indicate, Labour can ship out Corbyn before any serious long term damage is done and Boris can wait to see if it goes tits up before launching his leadership campaign. Hopefully soon Gorgeous George can arrive, Labour have a proper left wing leader now, hopefully we can have a proper right wing one and no better time to do it then when you occupy the centre. I think Alf is right on who spilt the beans as well, Boris and Cameron's relationship is at a all time low at the minute. I'd also like to beg the people who write the Thick of It to at least do a Christmas special, politics at the minute is being totally wasted without that show, the SNP, Corbyn and pig gate could see the show reach the levels of spitting image. Would there be a snap election or would they just hold a leadership election and parachute Osbourne into number 10, like Major and Brown? Or because we are so soon into this term would it need to be a snap election? Can snap elections even be called any more since we have fixed terms now? I would love to see the return of the Thick of It, but really could it be any more ludicrous than what we have seen in real life.
The Railway Man Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Sigh. I realize you're not the sharpest tool in the box, but if you were to put down the Sun and pick up a dictionary occasionally, you might not appear quite so stupid. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/abolish Awkward.
Guest MattP Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Would there be a snap election or would they just hold a leadership election and parachute Osbourne into number 10, like Major and Brown? Or because we are so soon into this term would it need to be a snap election? Can snap elections even be called any more since we have fixed terms now? I would love to see the return of the Thick of It, but really could it be any more ludicrous than what we have seen in real life. My opinion would remain consistant with what it was when Blair handed over to Brown, a decision where the Prime Minister is changed is such a large one it's only right that another general election should be called, we have leadership debates watched by millions so people can decide who to vote for I'm convinced the British people would never have elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister, they should be asked if the same applies to whoever wants to take the job from David Cameron. As mentioned though Labour (or a lot of their supporters) will be in no position to complain if some shady deal is done in the backrooms of Westminster, which for once would be a shame.
Captain... Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 My opinion would remain consistant with what it was when Blair handed over to Brown, a decision where the Prime Minister is changed is such a large one it's only right that another general election should be called, we have leadership debates watched by millions so people can decide who to vote for I'm convinced the British people would never have elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister, they should be asked if the same applies to whoever wants to take the job from David Cameron. As mentioned though Labour (or a lot of their supporters) will be in no position to complain if some shady deal is done in the backrooms of Westminster, which for once would be a shame. I don't disagree with that, although I think Brown could have won, it was his performances as PM which made him totally unelectable. I'm just not sure if snap elections can even be called any more with fixed terms of office.
Buce Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Awkward. For you, perhaps, but not me: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/realize
Mike Oxlong Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 OK Magazine leading with Samantha prefers smokey bacon to cheese and onion exclusive.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Ashcroft is now claiming Cameron lied to the electorate about his (Ashcroft's) non-dom tax status. That is far more damaging politically, if true. It'll probably slip under the radar unfortunately.
Rincewind Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 It'll probably slip under the radar unfortunately. Cameron would prefer the piggate story revealed to the public. When I type realise the spellchecker says realize. FoxesTalk is Americanised. (ized) Even had to add piggate to the dictionary.
Carl the Llama Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Cameron would prefer the piggate story revealed to the public. When I type realise the spellchecker says realize. FoxesTalk is Americanised. (ized) Even had to add piggate to the dictionary. It'll be the spellchecker you have installed on your browser, not FT. You should be able to set it to UK English in the settings somewhere.
davieG Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Cameron would prefer the piggate story revealed to the public. When I type realise the spellchecker says realize. FoxesTalk is Americanised. (ized) Even had to add piggate to the dictionary. I think it's more likely your browser/spell checker is set to English (USA)
Rincewind Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 I think it's more likely your browser/spell checker is set to English (USA) Joking about FT. It is a Chrome add on. Not checked to see if I can reset it. Never thought I could.
Buce Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Cameron would prefer the piggate story revealed to the public. When I type realise the spellchecker says realize. FoxesTalk is Americanised. (ized) Even had to add piggate to the dictionary. A little education goes a long way; for the rest, we have the internet: http://grammarist.com/spelling/realise-realize/
Rincewind Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 This is pretty much how I see it and why I think in the great scheme of things this piggate story is irrelevant. http://the-orator.co.uk/2015/09/pig-gate/
Webbo Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 All these conspiracy theories. Lord Ashcroft has had a book written to get his own back because he couldn't buy a job in govt and the Mail have published it because it will sell papers. I seriously doubt this will mean Cameron will leave office any earlier. He'll always have to suffer a few sniggers and silly jokes but in the long run it won't change anything.
Guest MattP Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 All these conspiracy theories. Lord Ashcroft has had a book written to get his own back because he couldn't buy a job in govt and the Mail have published it because it will sell papers. I seriously doubt this will mean Cameron will leave office any earlier. He'll always have to suffer a few sniggers and silly jokes but in the long run it won't change anything. It was slightly amusing how the same folk who would usually sneer at anything Lord Ashcroft or the Mail wrote decide to take on this as gospel. Isabel Oakeshott seemed to be expressing some regret about it on Radio 4, she kept trying to say they have written it but weren't implying whether it was true or not as they didn't even know themselves. How naive can you get? If you print a story that the PM puts his cock in a pig's mouth people are going to believe it I assure you.
Rincewind Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 I'm skeptical about anything the Mail publishes even this. As others have said they have an agenda. Slipping in a policy that removes free school dinners for primary school children when they promised in their manifesto that they would not while this other news is in the public's mind seems a bit iffy.
Guest MattP Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Come on Ken, even you can't seriously think Cameron or someone close to him would deliberately out that he put his penis in a pig. If they really wanted a diversion from school dinners this wouldn't be it.
Rincewind Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 Ashcroft is now claiming Cameron lied to the electorate about his (Ashcroft's) non-dom tax status. That is far more damaging politically, if true. What about this story?
Webbo Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 What about this story? That was in yesterday's paper as well. The reason everyone is going on about sticking his knob in a pig is that that's more interesting.
Rincewind Posted 22 September 2015 Posted 22 September 2015 That was in yesterday's paper as well. The reason everyone is going on about sticking his knob in a pig is that that's more interesting. Exactly . Agreed.It is more interesting to the general public. Which is what it says in the article I posted the link to.
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