Guest Col city fan Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Heskey in his pomp. Parker to pull the strings And Kamaark. One of the best full backs I've ever seen.
ThaiFox Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Rowley? Chandler? Glad someone other than me remembered the great Arthur Rowley! Would be so interesting to have seen him in the current age. His goal record is awesome, 251 goals in 303 games! How could anyone leave him out?!! Chandler must have been useful too.....259 in 393 is not a bad return! Two TRUE Leicester City legends and not the one/two season money grabbing wonders we see in this day and age.
MC Prussian Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Glad someone other than me remembered the great Arthur Rowley! Would be so interesting to have seen him in the current age. His goal record is awesome, 251 goals in 303 games! How could anyone leave him out?!! Chandler must have been useful too.....259 in 393 is not a bad return! Two TRUE Leicester City legends and not the one/two season money grabbing wonders we see in this day and age. These days, it would make for a ridiculous comparison, though. I did include them for their goalscoring abilities - but that was under different circumstances still. Training and fitness regimes are so different in our day and age, I seriously wonder whether you could take a Rowley or a Chandler in their best shape back then and put them in a Premier League match of the new millennium. Of course, if they were to work on nutrition and well-being, that could be a different hypothesis altogether.
My Nads Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Before my time, so i cannot really give an opinion. Fair enough.
My Nads Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Gee, Ormondroyd, Carey. Easy.... Go and stand in the corner and think about what you have said! ..go on!!
AyewJoking Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Flowers - would command his area better than Schmeichel and was a top class kepper in his own right. Elliot - as well as being solid at the back would add to our goal scoring threat. Heskey - the perfect foil for Vardy, would win all his aerial battles and out muscle any defender.
ThaiFox Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 These days, it would make for a ridiculous comparison, though. I did include them for their goalscoring abilities - but that was under different circumstances still. Training and fitness regimes are so different in our day and age, I seriously wonder whether you could take a Rowley or a Chandler in their best shape back then and put them in a Premier League match of the new millennium. Of course, if they were to work on nutrition and well-being, that could be a different hypothesis altogether. Agree it is impossible to compare different eras. All you can do is state their claim, which in Chandler and Rowley's case is easily forgotten because of their age. There could be debate whether Banks, Shilton, Wallington, Wothington, Stringfellow, Weller, Cross, Whitworth, Nish, or any of the players mentioned in this thread would be any good in today's conditions,....the list is endless, but in their own era they were excellent, and loyal Leicester City players & legends. Nowadays they may be nowhere near as good.........or would they? As you correctly say, the fitness, diet, massive difference in balls, kit, boots, the pitches, training methods, not to mention the skills of other players they were against, which may have been better or worse, make it totally impossible to compare. Tennis legends are often compared. Is Laver better than Borg, Sampras or Federer? King better than Evert, Graf or Williams? If you watch Laver's serve it would be smacked back at him at 10 times the power in today's tennis world, but many still consider him to be the best ever player. It will always be an interesting debate and our own ages and memories will always blind us with sentimentality.
fuchsntf Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 This is what makes forums interesting.Good thread. Its brought out the various generation, selecting great players over those generations. The younger guys and some 40ish fans, have some recent players and the MON collections will be closer to their hearts. Then old winklies like me, going deep into the Mat Gillies days, me from late end of the 50s period, but really took notice from 1960+. Just like past threads, querying, making/mixing a team from past and over player generations. This throws up alot of great memories, and allows us to remember 'our' foxes greats. I just want to pep up the trains of thoughts, or take a slant on things. Posters have thrown in their 2 bits, and I just want to put my ideas, on things that cant be proved or tested one way or tother. Goalkeepers, we have really had the best , defending our space between 2 posts and a bar. # But would, out of 3 choices , in this case a GK make so much difference..?? #FBs the best imo, would come from Chalmers,Whitworth, Rofe, Rodrigues, (Fuchs eventually to these greats) #CBs what a choice of Spread.But to pass in this team, my greats Cross, Walsh, I. King, still wouldnt get in. ELLIOT sticks out for his ball control, and movement, or playing in his original role,Mclintock.If not midfield. # Midfield..so many to make the mouth water.So many that still would be left out of this thread. MY choice from , to keep the todays ethos going, D.Gibson, Weller, Parker, Mcklintock, Izzet. # Forwards... god where does one start, but to slip in besides Vardy,..again Weller, or Worthington Stringfellow, J.Sinclair, Varaity would give us the Doog, or our no1 Lineker.The other who slots so smoothly in,would be R.Fern. # Wingers, So many would rightly belong, but if I selected Weller, as forward he covers in either 1 of 3 positions. Like so many others, who could slip playing inside with Vardy.or play on the wing. So this topic only allows for ,therefore I wouldnt chose to replace any. The paradox here, is this team which is giving us the chance, not just to compare but excel well over the successfull periods/seasons this club has ever had, but ...and now here is the crux, who from this seasons group of players , would get in , in a fans best players/team ever selection.
fuchsntf Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Agree it is impossible to compare different eras. All you can do is state their claim, which in Chandler and Rowley's case is easily forgotten because of their age. There could be debate whether Banks, Shilton, Wallington, Wothington, Stringfellow, Weller, Cross, Whitworth, Nish, or any of the players mentioned in this thread would be any good in today's conditions,....the list is endless, but in their own era they were excellent, and loyal Leicester City players & legends. Nowadays they may be nowhere near as good.........or would they? As you correctly say, the fitness, diet, massive difference in balls, kit, boots, the pitches, training methods, not to mention the skills of other players they were against, which may have been better or worse, make it totally impossible to compare. Tennis legends are often compared. Is Laver better than Borg, Sampras or Federer? King better than Evert, Graf or Williams? If you watch Laver's serve it would be smacked back at him at 10 times the power in today's tennis world, but many still consider him to be the best ever player. It will always be an interesting debate and our own ages and memories will always blind us with sentimentality. You put any top sportsman, from any sport, put them in todays or future world, they would automatically be getting everything from todays sports sciences, and the societys life. Gifted Talent, is natural, also the competitive spirit.So obviously one doesnt take the guy from 1920s,60s,80s, etc, etc but his gifts, and skills, and they would also naturally develope and naturally improve, because they would be of today The one difference is for the past masters, in single sports would have more variety to compete against. In football, there has been no great change in the basics, other than pace. Tennis has changed in spectrums, of racket on ball, and total fitness needed, where some past greats, had no wish to cover the court, and power is nothing to niceties, but sheer brutal, with some skill.
kimsalabim Posted 19 January 2016 Posted 19 January 2016 Gareth Williams Stephen Hughes Alan Maybury (God we really were BAD back then).
enmac Posted 20 January 2016 Posted 20 January 2016 Agree it is impossible to compare different eras. All you can do is state their claim, which in Chandler and Rowley's case is easily forgotten because of their age. There could be debate whether Banks, Shilton, Wallington, Wothington, Stringfellow, Weller, Cross, Whitworth, Nish, or any of the players mentioned in this thread would be any good in today's conditions,....the list is endless, but in their own era they were excellent, and loyal Leicester City players & legends. Nowadays they may be nowhere near as good.........or would they? As you correctly say, the fitness, diet, massive difference in balls, kit, boots, the pitches, training methods, not to mention the skills of other players they were against, which may have been better or worse, make it totally impossible to compare. Tennis legends are often compared. Is Laver better than Borg, Sampras or Federer? King better than Evert, Graf or Williams? If you watch Laver's serve it would be smacked back at him at 10 times the power in today's tennis world, but many still consider him to be the best ever player. It will always be an interesting debate and our own ages and memories will always blind us with sentimentality. Laver played with a wooden racket. He'd beat anyone today given the same equipment, imo.
enmac Posted 20 January 2016 Posted 20 January 2016 Just going for goals, pace given our current system, and players I've seen. Jackie Sinclair-50 goals in 103 games as a winger. Linneker Collymore Guaranteed 25 goals between now and the end of the season and given our new found defensive capability would be more than enough to win the PL.
ThaiFox Posted 20 January 2016 Posted 20 January 2016 Laver played with a wooden racket. He'd beat anyone today given the same equipment, imo. That's my point. If you watch Laver serve in those days it was almost powder puff. If you watch him serve in senior matches, even at his age now, he serves harder because of the different equipment. So just think of the heavy, laced, leather ball that weighed a ton that Rowley & Chandler had to play with, the dreadful pitches, long baggy shorts, horrible thick boots, a totally wrong diet, maybe they smoked? How often, and how did they train? Transport to matches? Defenders who hacked them to bits and no, or poor, shin pads. It's just impossible to compare different players from different eras, but we have interesting discussions doing so!
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