Bunyip Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 12 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: I don't know, if the Premier League is the best league in the world, but I am quite sure, that it is the most contested one. Pace and intensity are second to none. Even the "big teams" have to give 100% in every match, if they want to win three points. 90%, even 95% are mostly not good enough. Knowing this, do you really think, that 6 additional CL games before Christmas do not matter? To compare this season with the last one, or the 2014/15 one, is like comparing apples and oranges. It doesn't make sense. Do you, or anybody else in this forum, really think, that the " Great Escape" would have been possible, if we, back then, had played the same amount of games as this season? Those additional 6 CL games are responsible for the fact, that many of our players are not able to give the necessary 100% in every PL match. Our team is not used to cope with that double burden. Ranieri did warn us all at the beginning of the season, that it would be so. You should have believed him. Fitness has nothing to do with being able to pass a ball to each other or lumping the ball forward in the vain hope someone will get hold of it . We bought extra players to cope with the C.L and only sold one . Who's fault is it they turn out to be such poor quality ? Truth is we are a poor footballing side and the new recruits have done nothing to improve our play ( if anything they have made us a worse side ) that's not an opinion our league position state that. For heavens sake stop trying to kid yourself , we are in a real mess and unfortunately will be stuck with these new overpriced championship standard players and their wages for at least a few seasons . Finally if you are not worried by what Ranieri has been saying post match then you should be . He clearly hasn't got a clue why we are so shambolic or how to do anything about it . The Emperor is not wearing any clothes and the whole world but him can see that.
les-tah Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 On 13/12/2016 at 22:16, Ashley said: We weren't that bad tonight especially as bad as people are making out on here then again that's Foxestalk. Yeah we went that bad we wer fukcking dreadful.
foxy boxing Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 A really disappointing and frustrating performance and result, we should have backed up the Man City and we all know the team can play a lot better.we need to start performing and not waiting till it may be too late. we need fit the top gear
Ashley Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 3 hours ago, les-tah said: Yeah we went that bad we wer fukcking dreadful. Really? We peppered then second half ball just didn't fall right on another day we would of won that game. Game was decided by an offside goal but that's football.. it'll even itself out eventually.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 3 hours ago, Bunyip said: Fitness has nothing to do with being able to pass a ball to each other or lumping the ball forward in the vain hope someone will get hold of it . Have you ever played football? The first thing, that suffers, when you are tired, is your concentration. If you are not fully concentrated, you will have problems stopping and passing the ball. Our style of football, which won us the title last season, requires a lot of energy/fitness. Last season, without any mid-week fixtures, we had enough of it every weekend. That has changed this season. 6 additional games between mid-September and early December make a difference. A big one. Especially, if you are unable to rest key players, because you have no back ups for them. Our problem is neither the manager, nor the formation, but the sad fact, that we still have no strength in depth. Whoever is responsible for that , is also responsible for the mess we are in, right now.
AmyLGK Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 5 hours ago, shen said: Everyone is frustrated right now, but depressed is a bit strong. We're defending champions and through to the knockout stages in our maiden CL campaign. If that is depressing then we have suddenly raised the bar to Man Utd fan levels. Ah but no Champions League games to cheer me up for a while!
Bunyip Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 1 hour ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Have you ever played football? The first thing, that suffers, when you are tired, is your concentration. If you are not fully concentrated, you will have problems stopping and passing the ball. Our style of football, which won us the title last season, requires a lot of energy/fitness. Last season, without any mid-week fixtures, we had enough of it every weekend. That has changed this season. 6 additional games between mid-September and early December make a difference. A big one. Especially, if you are unable to rest key players, because you have no back ups for them. Our problem is neither the manager, nor the formation, but the sad fact, that we still have no strength in depth. Whoever is responsible for that , is also responsible for the mess we are in, right now. Absolute rubbish . Did you read all of my post instead of selecting that paragraph ? I said we spent a lot of money on strengthening the side ( which we did ) and kept the same players bar one . So we should have enough depth by now . Yes I have played football and you obviously havent . There is no excuse for not being able to pass the ball . That is elementary in all good sides. Do you see the other teams who finished below us last season and who were also in the champions league being so bloody woeful as us ? NO. Your naive assertion that it's down to strength in depth in no way excuses the utter garbage we have had to endure this season . You make no mention of the ridiculous tactic employed by Ranieri away from home or the pretty obvious couldn't care less attitude from players who only last year were champions . You stick your head in the sand if you want to . The rest of us will call it as it is .
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 39 minutes ago, Bunyip said: Absolute rubbish . Did you read all of my post instead of selecting that paragraph ? I said we spent a lot of money on strengthening the side ( which we did ) and kept the same players bar one . So we should have enough depth by now . Yes I have played football and you obviously havent . There is no excuse for not being able to pass the ball . That is elementary in all good sides. Do you see the other teams who finished below us last season and who were also in the champions league being so bloody woeful as us ? NO. Your naive assertion that it's down to strength in depth in no way excuses the utter garbage we have had to endure this season . You make no mention of the ridiculous tactic employed by Ranieri away from home or the pretty obvious couldn't care less attitude from players who only last year were champions . You stick your head in the sand if you want to . The rest of us will call it as it is . 1. Arsenal, ManCity, Tottenham are used to play international football. We are not. 2. Do you really think, that we have the same strength in depth as those teams? 3. Anybody, who thinks, that 6 additional games between mid-September and early December, do not matter, has no clue at all. Sorry, but that's my opinion. Btw.: I played football for 23 years
Bunyip Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 9 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: 1. Arsenal, ManCity, Tottenham are used to play international football. We are not. 2. Do you really think, that we have the same strength in depth as those teams? 3. Anybody, who thinks, that 6 additional games between mid-September and early December, do not matter, has no clue at all. Sorry, but that's my opinion. Btw.: I played football for 23 years Incase you hadn't noticed we beat , Man City, Tottenham last season, If we are not used to international football tell me why, We are still in and tottenham are not ? If we dont have the same strength then why not ? We were the champions of the Premiership , the biggest and the most watched league in the world. We had the chance to at least be a top six side just on the back of that . We recruited badly buying unproven foreign players who have proven, To be so far out of their depth they would not grace the championship ( old second division ). If you really think that six extra games at the very start of the season are the reason for our awful play then sorry but for 23 years playing at pub level then you are the one that doesn't have a clue all.
MC Prussian Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 3 hours ago, Bunyip said: Incase you hadn't noticed we beat , Man City, Tottenham last season, If we are not used to international football tell me why, We are still in and tottenham are not ? If we dont have the same strength then why not ? We were the champions of the Premiership , the biggest and the most watched league in the world. We had the chance to at least be a top six side just on the back of that . We recruited badly buying unproven foreign players who have proven, To be so far out of their depth they would not grace the championship ( old second division ). If you really think that six extra games at the very start of the season are the reason for our awful play then sorry but for 23 years playing at pub level then you are the one that doesn't have a clue all. Why we're still in it? Because we initially approached the challenge as a novelty and with the same hunger like last season in the Premier League - ultimately, that just helped us stumble across the finishing line with one game to go. Also, you could say we've had the luck of the draw, facing a team from Belgium and one from Denmark when we could've gotten much worse or difficult opponents. Oh, and because Spurs are the best third-placed team in the world. Our home wins against Copenhagen and Porto were lucky ones. We almost fell to Copenhagen at their place. The magic from last season has disappeared rather quickly and the ones still basking in our title run (like you do in your opening sentence) should really, really be the ones eating humble pie. The team from last season is just that. This squad has little to nothing in common with it, apart from a couple of names on the team sheet. The problem is two-fold and a mixture of a rather dramatic drop in performance by established players (which after all, should've/could've been expected - these players were never to replicate what they did in 2015/2016) and - easy to say in hindsight - a questionable attitude in terms of transfer dealings, putting an emphasis on adding to our strikeforce, when we should've looked at organically replacing three of our four aging main defenders over the course of the next two, three years at max: Hernandez hardly plays (at CB), Benalouane doesn't feature at all, and despite his moments of genius still apparent this season, Fuchs isn't getting any younger at all, either... Where's the competition for these places? At least in central midfield, Amartey and King do their best to put some heat on Mendy and Drinkwater! (You can at that if you want to) The most interesting prospect right now is Danny Simpson, a man who once came under intense scrutiny for personal affairs not so long ago... Funny old world, isn't it?
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 3 hours ago, Bunyip said: Incase you hadn't noticed we beat , Man City, Tottenham last season, If we are not used to international football tell me why, We are still in and tottenham are not ? If we dont have the same strength then why not ? We were the champions of the Premiership , the biggest and the most watched league in the world. We had the chance to at least be a top six side just on the back of that . We recruited badly buying unproven foreign players who have proven, To be so far out of their depth they would not grace the championship ( old second division ). If you really think that six extra games at the very start of the season are the reason for our awful play then sorry but for 23 years playing at pub level then you are the one that doesn't have a clue all. I have to agree. Our summer recruitment is looking like it was so bad, it's quite farcical. Genuinely, we had the stature and the money to sign some really really good players. Forget this 'little Leicester' bollox. We have spent a lot of money in the summer and have absolutely lavished our superstars ever since. With new contracts, with cars, with lots and lots of money. We could have really consolidated our squad with some real talent. Did we do that? No. We are making Slimani pretty much look like a Championship striker, Musa looks no better than Schlupp and Amartey (who, fair play, I think was signed in January?) IS one of the worst midfielders I've seen in a City shirt for many years. Its bizarre of course, because we are in the last 16 of the Champions League, which is a great achievement for LCFC. But, Christ, we've really fooked up on our recruitment..... or so it seems anyway. When we had a real chance to kick on with the progress we'd made.
STUHILL Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 I would like to see a comparison done of how deep all the player's average position are compared to last season. I think the back 4 have dropped so deep and are terrified to hold a higher line, as well as the two in the centre midfield and even the wingers. So we are left with a huge gap between the defence/midfield and the attack, and so the only option we are left with, is a hoof ball from a deep position. Our midfield tries to get up the pitch to support, but they have to make up the big gap and the lack of quick support more often than not, means the attack simply breaks down before it even gets started. Unfortunately, the more confidence zapping results we have, the less chance we are going to see the player's comfortable enough to address this and push forward. Claudio needs to address this with either a formation change or drilling it into the players that they must not drop so deep. Lack of pace of the back 4 is obviously a big reason, so more mobile defenders should be targetted in January too.
UPinCarolina Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 Can anyone tell me why Benny can't even get a bench spot these days? Surely, he's got to be somewhat fit.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 12 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: Can anyone tell me why Benny can't even get a bench spot these days? Surely, he's got to be somewhat fit. Why do you think? He's cack and before you tell me he isn't he just conceded two against the Forest youngsters in an u-23 game. Jesus some people will be calling for St. Ledger to get a run soon enough.
Dr The Singh Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 1 hour ago, Sharpe's Fox said: Why do you think? He's cack and before you tell me he isn't he just conceded two against the Forest youngsters in an u-23 game. Jesus some people will be calling for St. Ledger to get a run soon enough. I would have St ledger and GTF back anyday
Sharpe's Fox Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 18 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: I would have St ledger and GTF back anyday GTF yes. At least he could hold the ball up, unlike Slimani on Tuesday night.
HighPeakFox Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 I'm not a huge fan of how we played on Tuesday. But i'm really really not a fan of running the players and manager down, alleging that they don't give a toss, calling them crap and basically taking any frustration we might have out on individuals - criticism is not the same as name-calling and attack, but too many descend into the latter at the drop of a hat. And also, trying to take the 'I'm right, you're wrong' attitude of 'telling it like it is' is just likely to piss people off - who gave anyone ownership of 'fact' here? It's all opinions, and mine is that none of us is objective. 'Telling it like it is' (in my opinion) is a euphemism (a politically correct one at that) for basically being a bit of an objectionable c**t.
filthyfox Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 45 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: 'Telling it like it is' (in my opinion) is a euphemism (a politically correct one at that) for basically being a bit of an objectionable c**t. Thought I'd say well done for "telling it like it is"
Bayfox Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 4 hours ago, UPinCarolina said: Can anyone tell me why Benny can't even get a bench spot these days? Surely, he's got to be somewhat fit. Yep he isn't registered in our premier league squad so he can't play. End off.
UPinCarolina Posted 16 December 2016 Posted 16 December 2016 40 minutes ago, Bayfox said: Yep he isn't registered in our premier league squad so he can't play. End off. Well that settles that, then. Unaware that he wasn't even registered. What a poor buy he's turned out to be.
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