Bournemouth 1 - 0 Leicester Post match thread

[Struwwelpeter60]

5 minutes ago, Rileigh84 said:

Those god awful throw-ins - I mean, have we actually ever scored from one of those long throws? I keep hearing its a good weapon to have, but is it? I can't think of an occasion its worked?

Sometimes it actually works.

The 2:0 last saturday was the result of a long throw-in: Fuchs - Huth-

Slimani - King.

Our first CL goal (Albrighton at Brugge) was a direct result of a

Hernandez long throw-in.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

15 minutes ago, Rileigh84 said:

Our corners are poor. Our free kicks are poor. Those god awful throw-ins - I mean, have we actually ever scored from one of those long throws? I keep hearing its a good weapon to have, but is it? I can't think of an occasion its worked?

 

I think that's more to do with our complete feebleness in the air rather than the throw ins.

[Bayfox]

4 hours ago, stretch1965 said:

Total shite,

King only has one good game in every eight which was Saturday. Come back kaspar and drinkwater and play 3 5 1 away from home.

351. Brave considering we are shit with 11. Playing 10 seems madness. Mind you it can't do much worse.

[Rileigh84]

10 minutes ago, Bayfox said:

351. Brave considering we are shit with 11. Playing 10 seems madness. Mind you it can't do much worse.

Haha... to be fair we could play with 12 and still struggle at the moment!

[broughtonblue]

4 hours ago, Blue Ed said:

We need to buy at least 3 new central midfielders...Amarty and King just don't seem to be able to support the team.

Don't suppose you had these thoughts on Saturday?

[Rileigh84]

16 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said:

Sometimes it actually works.

The 2:0 last saturday was the result of a long throw-in: Fuchs - Huth-

Slimani - King.

Our first CL goal (Albrighton at Brugge) was a direct result of a

Hernandez long throw-in.

It's not that common though is it? I've lost count of the amount of long throws that go straight out of play, same goes for free kicks. Can't defend set pieces, can't attack them either.

 

Anyway, I don't think we're losing games on account of throw ins, corners and free kicks, it's more our general inability to actually play football. We scored some lovely goals against Man City but the reality is they were very simple goals, a couple of passes before shooting. Our inability to break teams down when they defend deep is killing us. Our inability to string more than 3 passes together, thread a through ball or come up with anything remotely creative, is killing us.

I have noticed that teams such as Boro, Watford and Bournemouth tonight have all played a deep defensive line and allowed little time on the ball, pressing quickly and with intensity. Our players aren't comfortable enough on the ball to cope with being pressed, and they're not creative enough to break a side down. So for me, we need a number 10, someone to spread the play with comfort and have technical ability, and another midfielder (perhaps Mendy seeing as he can pass a ball) to win the ball and pass with comfort - that alongside Drinkwater will solve a lot of issues... to actually have 3 players in the middle that can pass a ball.

 

I don't think the back line is horrific, it's just very exposed this season. A 4-4-1-1 would be my shout. We can't keep persisting with 4-4-2. We look better when Okazaki is in the team because he drops deep but surely it'd be better if we had someone who actually plays that no.10 role rather than a makeshift striker?

GK - Schmeichel,

DF - Simpson, Morgan, Huth, Fuchs,

CM - Drinkwater, Mendy

 

Then if Slimani plays up top I'd go for for better crossing options;
RM - Albrighton (he's much better on the right)
LM - Gray (has the technical ability)

AM - Mahrez (in a free role, could suit him to free him of defensive duties)
ST - Slimani

 

If Vardy plays up top I'd go for the pacey options
RM - Gray
LM - Musa
AM - Mahrez
ST - Vardy

In an ideal world you'd get someone like Adrien Silva to play the No.10 role and have Mahrez out wide still. I haven't seen enough of Mendy to know if he can fulfil that ball-winning role but if not I've heard solid things about Ndidi from Genk fans - apparently he's in the mould of Idrissa Geuye and Kanté, so we shall see.

But we'll probably continue to play 4-4-2 and sign 5 new wingers in January.

[broughtonblue]

4 hours ago, Gerard said:

You can't win football matches consistently without possession, I know we did last season but all the good teams in history have the ball and break teams down.

 

Slimani and Vardy in a 4-4-2 with us having a third of the ball every match will not consistently win us football matches.

 

Ranieri appears to be looking a dinosaur in today's game. 

 

The only player comfortable on the ball is Mahrez and I pity him in this side, he should be a player that is given the ball not spend most of the match chasing it with defensive responsibilities in a 4-4-2.

You can't win matches without possession, but we did last season!

[Vardinio'sCat]

44 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said:

Even last season we were unable to beat them.

Away (1:1) and at home (0:0).

Apropos: Last season at Bournemouth we played

in a 4141 formation, with Vardy as sole striker and King

as sweeper in front of our back-four. 

 

I was talking about us squeaking it more generally, but I'd forgotten that we struggled with them last season. That Eddie Howe is a right pain in the a**e!

[broughtonblue]

4 hours ago, stretch1965 said:

Total shite,

King only has one good game in every eight which was Saturday. Come back kaspar and drinkwater and play 3 5 1 away from home.

Great post, so we are struggling and you want to play with 10 players? That's if you want to play a keeper?

#tacticalgenius 

[broughtonblue]

4 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Sign one, just one real quality midfielder in January. A player with skill, comfortable on the ball, comes to receive it from the defence, picks a pass (not just a 5 yard pass) AND who can run into the opposition half with confidence to give the ball higher up the field and this team will look 5 times better. And we'll end up mid table.

You heard it here first.......

Im fed up with arguing with muppets on here who claim our midfield is good enough, is improving or 'is young and has potential'.

It's not. At this level, it's rubbish.

1 point from a possible 24 away from home tells its own story.

So who is going to come here of quality?

we are Leicester city, not Man U. Not a London team who have the delights of our capital city. Not Liverpool who have the history, not arsenal who can virtually guarantee champions league season after season, just little Leicester who amazingly, for one season were amazing. Perhaps we've signed the caliber of player that our club can reach out to ?

[Rileigh84]

1 minute ago, broughtonblue said:

So who is going to come here of quality?

we are Leicester city, not Man U. Not a London team who have the delights of our capital city. Not Liverpool who have the history, not arsenal who can virtually guarantee champions league season after season, just little Leicester who amazingly, for one season were amazing. Perhaps we've signed the caliber of player that our club can reach out to ?

You'd be surprised. The lure of the Premier League, and the financial incentives that comes with it - means that teams such as Palace could pick up Cabaye, Stoke could pick up Shaqiri etc. Clubs around the world simply cannot compete with the Premier League financially. You can argue that we don't want players that are just coming for the money, but we have to face facts - we're not a desirable club in London or Manchester, we're Leicester City, and beyond the fantasy of the last couple of seasons which has significantly raised our profile - any top players knows its a huge risk to come here, especially if they want European football. So money is the incentive. As it was for the likes of Cabaye and Shaqiri.

We could probably still get Adrien Silva from Sporting. He was extremely keen on a move in the summer, and with Sporting out of the UCL he might consider it (I believe we can name up to 1 player in our UCL squad that had been registered for another club in Europe - so he'd be able to play UCL for us). He's 27 and he expressed his desire for a new challenge, so unless a better offer comes in we could prize him away from there, albeit for a hefty fee. We've also been sniffing around Brazil in the last year or so, having bid for Aranguiz when he was playing there and allegedly bidding for Gabriel Barbosa (at Santos at the time, now of Inter) and Luan at Gremio, and we've recently been linked with Wallace at Gremio also. So I don't think it's beyond us.

[erlee]

5 hours ago, Father Ted said:

So, as the Champions we've gone and signed;

 

A goalkeeper who is a young version of Mark Schwarzer

A striker (winger?!) who the **** knows who just seems to be a glorified Jeff Schlupp with a slightly worse touch

A striker who is a poor mans Ulloa

A young winger who can't even get in the squad

A central midfielder who just doesn't look good enough

A right back/centre back who is a top half championship defender

 

FARCE

fer fack sake - stop slacking off Mark Schwarzer.. he is long retired. 

[AyewJoking]

another game píssed away.

 

can we just write musa and amartey off as not good enough and loan them out so they can get practice and be shít for someone else?

 

 

[WigstonWanderer]

Scrappy performance but might have nicked the draw towards the end. Bournemouth looked the classier side and deserved the points though.

 

Surely we can stop giving the ball away quite as easily!

[Crazy Kop Corner]

There is a huge gap between midfield and attack. On the few times that we did get forward we only had one or at the most two attackers in the box. Armatey and King just look to take up space without ever getting a foothold in the game. At times the opposition just waltz around them. 

 

Who the hell brought Herandez in? I was hoping he was going to get sent off he was such an embarrassment last night. He looks as though he's running in sand all of the time and continually makes fouls under the refs nose. Having long throws just makes us look like Wimbledon especially when we are as crap as we were last night. 

 

Unfortunately, one or two of the players have, almost overnight, gone over the hill. 

 

It was all very sad last night and as they trooped off I didn't get the impression that it hurt them as much as the fans that had spent 8 / 9 hours in cars, coaches etc and a stack of money to support them. 

 

The players and set up needs a real shake up. As some have posted we need to be playing those players that will give us some pace and bite i.e how come Grey was left on the bench and Musa came on? That miscontrol our side of the pitch was a complete embarrassment from a professional footballer. 

[Rasmic123]

Worst referee we've had all season, gave us absolutely nothing and was then dishing out yellows if the same thing happened to a bournemouth player. Atrocious performance from the twat in the middle

[SheppyFox]

4 hours ago, broughtonblue said:

Don't suppose you had these thoughts on Saturday?

As big a one off as last season

[st albans fox]

29 minutes ago, Rasmic123 said:

Worst referee we've had all season, gave us absolutely nothing and was then dishing out yellows if the same thing happened to a bournemouth player. Atrocious performance from the twat in the middle

Not great but as I commented to my eldest, not the reason we came away pointless. (And he did give us a few decisions where he could have blown up for a foul against - not many but a few!)

 

and adrien silva cant play in the CL (not your post I know).   Is he a number 10?

 

manager needs to sort out the formation away from home. It's not rocket science. 

 

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

10 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

No, he isn't. His powerful headers are one of his main assets.

 

The problem was the lack of supply and it just baffles me why Ranieri didn't instruct his players to go more out wide and smack them long balls into the box. Apart from one chance, we were getting nowhere with our passing when Slimani was still on.

Slimani in the last two games has had many a ball to head but either not jumped for them or lost the battle. 

 

Against Man City Vardy won virtually every header he could despite being a short arse.

 

Slimani last night was appauling. His strengths are getting in headers coming in from crosses coming from the byline or wide areas, of which he has very few chances.

 

All in all £30m not looking well spent, as he has the same attributes as Leo and I'm not totally convinced he's any better.

[adejo92]

It goes to show that we really haven't got many players who are premier league quality.

 

Theres a lot of players i like in the squad but few are good enough for the premier league if the truth be known.

 

I'm yet to be convinced with Slimani and for 30 mil i would like to see him be a threat with his feet and not just his head.

 

Hoping these set of lads can pull it together and be 10% of the team they were last season.

[AmarteyAndChill]

5 hours ago, Rileigh84 said:

It's not that common though is it? I've lost count of the amount of long throws that go straight out of play, same goes for free kicks. Can't defend set pieces, can't attack them either.

 

Anyway, I don't think we're losing games on account of throw ins, corners and free kicks, it's more our general inability to actually play football. We scored some lovely goals against Man City but the reality is they were very simple goals, a couple of passes before shooting. Our inability to break teams down when they defend deep is killing us. Our inability to string more than 3 passes together, thread a through ball or come up with anything remotely creative, is killing us.

I have noticed that teams such as Boro, Watford and Bournemouth tonight have all played a deep defensive line and allowed little time on the ball, pressing quickly and with intensity. Our players aren't comfortable enough on the ball to cope with being pressed, and they're not creative enough to break a side down. So for me, we need a number 10, someone to spread the play with comfort and have technical ability, and another midfielder (perhaps Mendy seeing as he can pass a ball) to win the ball and pass with comfort - that alongside Drinkwater will solve a lot of issues... to actually have 3 players in the middle that can pass a ball.

 

I don't think the back line is horrific, it's just very exposed this season. A 4-4-1-1 would be my shout. We can't keep persisting with 4-4-2. We look better when Okazaki is in the team because he drops deep but surely it'd be better if we had someone who actually plays that no.10 role rather than a makeshift striker?

GK - Schmeichel,

DF - Simpson, Morgan, Huth, Fuchs,

CM - Drinkwater, Mendy

 

Then if Slimani plays up top I'd go for for better crossing options;
RM - Albrighton (he's much better on the right)
LM - Gray (has the technical ability)

AM - Mahrez (in a free role, could suit him to free him of defensive duties)
ST - Slimani

 

If Vardy plays up top I'd go for the pacey options
RM - Gray
LM - Musa
AM - Mahrez
ST - Vardy

In an ideal world you'd get someone like Adrien Silva to play the No.10 role and have Mahrez out wide still. I haven't seen enough of Mendy to know if he can fulfil that ball-winning role but if not I've heard solid things about Ndidi from Genk fans - apparently he's in the mould of Idrissa Geuye and Kanté, so we shall see.

But we'll probably continue to play 4-4-2 and sign 5 new wingers in January.

I'm not not sure Ndidi covers the ground that Gana and N'Golo cover.

[stretch1965]

5 hours ago, Bayfox said:

351. Brave considering we are shit with 11. Playing 10 seems madness. Mind you it can't do much worse.

I had been drinking, mind you this system with two keepers might work 

[SpacedX]

7 hours ago, daddylonglegs said:

It's not like we're 5 or 6 games in.. we're dangerously close to half way into the season and what ahve we got to show for it?

 

Last sixteen of the Champions League? As a follower of this club for over forty years I'll take that.

[KingKante]

Last night reminded me of a Tony pulis stoke type performance

[Guest Col city fan]

18 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

It goes to show that we really haven't got many players who are premier league quality.

 

Theres a lot of players i like in the squad but few are good enough for the premier league if the truth be known.

 

I'm yet to be convinced with Slimani and for 30 mil i would like to see him be a threat with his feet and not just his head.

 

Hoping these set of lads can pull it together and be 10% of the team they were last season.

This is the real crux of the matter for me.

Starting with the basis of a squad that won the Premier League we have since sold Kante and replaced him in a 442, in most games, with either King or, more often, Amartey. King, as we all know, blows got and cold and Amartey...we'll don't get me started again.

When Simpson isn't playing, we rely on Hernandez who is never a RB in a month of Sundays.

We keep bringing on Musa after 60/70 mins and expect him just to turn things around.

We have signed a 30 million pound striker who, last night, was so bad that we felt compelled to sub him at half time. That's going to do wonders for HIS confidence isn't it.

And finally, we haven't signed another centre back to come in for either Huth or Morgan to at least give them a rest!

 

WTF! The Champions of England have the second worst away record in the division (yes, that's worse than Hull, Sunderland and Swansea) and yet people are still asking us to be patient cos all will come right in the end.

I stuck my neck out early doors, this season, to say that I don't think we'll be relegated. For two reasons. We will still win enough games at home to survive. And the worst teams in the division are worse than us.

 

BUT..I expected better than this. Both the manager and the player need to really take a long hard look at themselves and ask themselves what they are doing. Last night was just unacceptable. 

I expect a much improved performance at Stoke.