TMELcfc Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 8 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Two years ago, when we were rock bottom, Pearson changed the system almost every week. Did it help? No!! Between 29.11. (QPR) and Boxing Day (Spurs) we lost six in a row. In those games we played 4 different formations: 442 (3X), 451, 433 and 4411. The result was always the same. We lost. The 442 formation is not the problem (last season we won the title with it ). Players win games, not formations. Didn't he eventually get one right and we went on a winning streak to stay up? It still might not be the answer, the formation isn't the o my problem, our predictable build up play and good ball is also the problem.
Koke Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 Bournemouth are terrible at the back yet we had zero fecking ambitions in the first half.
dannythefox Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 4-4-2 away from home what did people expect also we've spent 30m on a striker that doesn't play the way we do!
Ricey Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 That was up there with one of the most anger inducing performances that I've seen in a long time. It's like watching someone bang their head repeatedly against a wall and wonder why they are bleeding. I can't believe it's the middle of December and we are still trying the same things. It will only work against one of the other 19 clubs in the division. Every other team will set themselves up to nullify our threat, it's not hard. Give me a bunch of random footballers and I reckon I could organise them in a day to be able to get at least a point against us. In Tennis terms, it's like playing an opponent who likes to play on the baseline and then proceeding to hit every ball to them on to the baseline. Madness. I'm really starting to worry that maybe Ranieri is deluded. Surely he must see what is happening? The fact he chose the pace of Musa instead of the creativity of Gray last night suggests he can not see it. A manager who calls himself a tactician and a tinkerman, yet it couldn't be further from the truth. I don't blame him for the awful transfer business done in the last two windows, but we have players in squad able to give us another dimension yet it's being blindly ignored. Carry on ignoring it and I've no doubt we will be relegated.
Kitchandro Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 People need to stop talking about Man City 'playing into our hands'. It's clear to anyone who has taken any notice of football in their lives that we were much, much better than we were last night. It's not about what they do, it's about what we do. One game we turned up, pressed, won 50/50s, worked hard for each other, attacked with confidence and numbers, and defended with commitment and organisation. And one game we did the opposite. We are capable of playing great football (we were actually very good in some of the earlier home games as well) but we are not approaching too many matches in the right way. The tempo was terrible last night and we sat back. Add to that we have some players who clearly aren't good enough to perform consistently and it's a problem. Likewise I wish people would shut up about us not having enough of the ball. That is one of the most retarded things I have heard on here in years and that's really saying something. Do you muppets realise we won the Premier League last season with similar possession stats? The problem is where we're winning the ball and what we're doing with it when we have it. Last night we were hopeless when we got the ball and it didn't help that we were winning the ball too deep because we weren't pressing them. Against Man City we won the ball high up the pitch, which is clearly a hugely important tactic for the way we play. Possession doesn't earn points and last season proved it. We have numerous problems but a lack of possession isn't one of them. We worked by getting the ball forward quickly and taking defences by surprise. Our problem at the moment is our build up is so slow that teams have time to get men behind the ball and we clearly don't have the players to pass round them (without Drinkwater especially), which is very difficult even for teams who are good at it. If you don't believe me look at the ratio of goals to possession in high possession teams. If possession was everything those teams would score about 10 a game, they don't! Then look at us last season, barely any possession, plenty of goals. We need to get back to doing what we were doing last season and on Saturday against Man City. Possession isn't everything. For us, pressing and tempo is everything.
Ricey Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 3 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: People need to stop talking about Man City 'playing into our hands'. It's clear to anyone who has taken any notice of football in their lives that we were much, much better than we were last night. It's not about what they do, it's about what we do. One game we turned up, pressed, won 50/50s, worked hard for each other, attacked with confidence and numbers, and defended with commitment and organisation. And one game we did the opposite. We are capable of playing great football (we were actually very good in some of the earlier home games as well) but we are not approaching too many matches in the right way. The tempo was terrible last night and we sat back. Add to that we have some players who clearly aren't good enough to perform consistently and it's a problem. Likewise I wish people would shut up about us not having enough of the ball. That is one of the most retarded things I have heard on here in years and that's really saying something. Do you muppets realise we won the Premier League last season with similar possession stats? The problem is where we're winning the ball and what we're doing with it when we have it. Last night we were hopeless when we got the ball and it didn't help that we were winning the ball too deep because we weren't pressing them. Against Man City we won the ball high up the pitch, which is clearly a hugely important tactic for the way we play. Possession doesn't earn points and last season proved it. We have numerous problems but a lack of possession isn't one of them. We worked by getting the ball forward quickly and taking defences by surprise. Our problem at the moment is our build up is so slow that teams have time to get men behind the ball and we clearly don't have the players to pass round them (without Drinkwater especially), which is very difficult even for teams who are good at it. If you don't believe me look at the ratio of goals to possession in high possession teams. If possession was everything those teams would score about 10 a game, they don't! Then look at us last season, barely any possession, plenty of goals. We need to get back to doing what we were doing last season and on Saturday against Man City. Possession isn't everything. For us, pressing and tempo is everything. It very much is "what they do" that makes a difference. When you are so one dimensional, it's important you are allowed to play that dimension. Man City certainly did. Regarding the pressing, Ranieri made the point that it is impossible to press for 90 mins after only playing 3 days a go.
The People's Hero Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 1 minute ago, Ricey said: It very much is "what they do" that makes a difference. When you are so one dimensional, it's important you are allowed to play that dimension. Man City certainly did. Regarding the pressing, Ranieri made the point that it is impossible to press for 90 mins after only playing 3 days a go. There are plenty of times we haven't pressed when we've barely played
perthfox Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 I just cannot believe the system we played,1st half awful no attack what happened to the team that played on Saturday,so frustrating.seems we play away to try to get a nil nil draw,watching this garbage game after game is wearing a bit thin.
David Guiza Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 Bournemouth took their chance and we fluffed two or three good ones through Vardy (though pretty difficult), Ulloa and Huth. We created a little more than we have been doing but we still have too many passengers away from home. Last season every player fought for the ball when we didn't have it and knew exactly where to be for 90+minutes. This season we have at least 2/3 dreadful players in every away game and also no real variation going forward; there was at least one point in the first half when the ball was near their corner flag in our possession and the only two players in sight were Slimani and Vardy v 5/6 Bournemouth players. Something really needs to give away from home, otherwise we're going to need to pick up a minimum of 15-20 points at home which, even given our reasonable home form, is a big ask.
Guest Lako42 Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 Some of you lot need to learn to manage your emotions a little bit better. People saying it is the worst thing they have ever seen is just embarrassing, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously. Adults with reactions of brats.
MC Prussian Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 2 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: Slimani in the last two games has had many a ball to head but either not jumped for them or lost the battle. Against Man City Vardy won virtually every header despite he could despite being a short arse. Slimani last night was appauling. His strengths are getting in headers coming in from crosses coming from the byline or wide areas, of which he has very few chances. All in all £30m not looking well spent, as he has the same attributes as Leo and I'm not totally convinced he's any better. It's because he's not getting any service on either side! He's a workhorse and can link up well between midfield and attackers, but he needs to be fed up front.
Vocey Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 Didn't watch the match but sounds like a shit first 45 and missed a few chances in the match?
WigstonWanderer Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 12 hours ago, potter3 said: Now that Drinkwater and Mendy are back or as near as, can we please move to 3 in the middle, away from home at least. We need an open letter to Ranieri!
RonnieTodger Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 I don't mind us having a much lower possession stat when it suits your style and we countered properly against Man City. Bournemouth were wise enough (as pretty much everyone else has been) to know that we'd rush a long ball forward to run on to. It really is horrendous to watch and the game really was as bad as people are making out. Just because we gave it more a go in the second half, it doesn't make the result any more acceptable. I haven't seen a Leicester team play football this ugly in a long long time. We are a hoof-ball team now, but Pulis' sides actually won games doing it. We are one-dimensional, aimless and slow. We've tried the same shite all season away from home and it's been painfully obvious that it's failing. What's the point in going to Stoke on Saturday? Will we ever stop playing this way?
lgfualol Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 https://my.mixtape.moe/fixmtw.mp4 Their goal. Just so easy really.
deep blue Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 Last few posts have hit nail on head. We need to press from the start with conviction and an attacking mentality. As for the point that we hadn't the same energy after playing on Saturday - didn't Bournemouth play at the weekend too? Also, we have a squad which we could have used to freshen things up. Musa instead of Vardy with instructions to use his speed to harry defenders, Okazaki in place of Slim and asked to play his usual role, maybe Gray or Schluppy - all options that could inject more urgency from the start.
The People's Hero Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 I knew Shinji was due up soon. Reckon it's time to wheel out Captain Morgan for one of these again
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 32 minutes ago, lgfualol said: https://my.mixtape.moe/fixmtw.mp4 Their goal. Just so easy really. How much space near the edge of the area? Not for one, but for two players! Tells it's own story.
Izzy Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 1 hour ago, Ricey said: That was up there with one of the most anger inducing performances that I've seen in a long time. It's like watching someone bang their head repeatedly against a wall and wonder why they are bleeding. I can't believe it's the middle of December and we are still trying the same things. It will only work against one of the other 19 clubs in the division. Every other team will set themselves up to nullify our threat, it's not hard. Give me a bunch of random footballers and I reckon I could organise them in a day to be able to get at least a point against us. In Tennis terms, it's like playing an opponent who likes to play on the baseline and then proceeding to hit every ball to them on to the baseline. Madness. I'm really starting to worry that maybe Ranieri is deluded. Surely he must see what is happening? The fact he choose the pace of Musa instead of the creativity of Gray last night suggest he can not see it. A manager who calls himself a tactician and a tinkerman, yet it couldn't be further from the truth. I don't blame him for the awful transfer business done in the last two windows, but we have players in squad able to give us another dimension yet it's being blindly ignored. Carry on ignoring it and I've no doubt we will be relegated. Reluctantly, I find myself agreeing with all of that. Good post.
steveb Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 truly awful, only slimani looks worth paying for out of the signings the rest , championship material , at best. an average goalkeeper waiting to pick the ball out of the net when an average save won't cut it, 2 old blokes waiting to do something desperate at the back. a couple of people wandering about wide in midfield, hoping for the ball a couple of people wandering about up front, hoping the opponents screw up and making up the numbers a whole group of people between the backs and midfield who are just along for the ride Can' tackle, can't move, can' pass - don't work. We have to buy a sweeper and a whole new midfield who can pass the ball and stop giving it away It was exciting in the last 5 minues of games in the 70s\80s\90s when all leicester did was hoof the ball into the floodlights and prayed to whoever for a result, but times - they have moved on. it would be xmas come early to watch 5 or 6 5 yards passes from the midfield to another LCFC player without screwing up panicking or giving it away offer Chelsea 100 million for Kante back
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 57 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: It's because he's not getting any service on either side! He's a workhorse and can link up well between midfield and attackers, but he needs to be fed up front. My my concern is that as we are not getting to the byline and putting crosses in from there in games to suit. Re: your last paragraph. He's not technically very good with his feet which means - as last night - many opportunities begin but don't come to fruition.
foxes21 Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 I think a lack of fitness lost us the game. If we've learnt anything this year, its that these players can't play 2/3 games a week. Good on Claudio for sticking to a winning team, but really.. I think we needed to rotate. Slimani for example, was clearly knackered and couldn't press or track back like he did Vs Man City.
Manwell Pablo Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 1 hour ago, Lako42 said: Some of you lot need to learn to manage your emotions a little bit better. People saying it is the worst thing they have ever seen is just embarrassing, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously. Adults with reactions of brats. Don't be ridiculous. Raneri out, sack the board. Worst team I've ever seen play and that includes The Anchor Inn last Sunday.
steveb Posted 14 December 2016 Posted 14 December 2016 i only just realised Musa is supposed to be a centre forward. i don't think i'e ever seen him move away from the centre circle - perhaps it doesn't translate well. Is this why he's such a terrible midfielder and doesn't know what to do with the ball when he gets in wide posisitions ?
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