sylofox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 1 hour ago, Father Ted said: My point isn't that it is solely down to Simpson or a "new right back" but that he is a clear weak link that is killing us. We're having to compensate so heavily for the fact that neither him, Huth or Morgan can pass a football. The fact that they are such limited defenders and without Kante we are being found out. So you start a thread picking on one man and slagging him off. Now you name two others then sight the loss of Kante for them being shite. Do you even know what your point is or who is at fault. Let me guess you just don't like Simpson? Not that you even know him.
teblin Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 In a 442 when all he needs to do is defend he's great. In a 433 we need someone better on the ball
narboroughblue Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 13 hours ago, Bayfox said: But your thread is about Simpson and as I have pointed out. He's well down the list of problems and neither goal today as an example were his faults. And now you bring the fact that neither centre half can pass a ball either into it to back up some pointless argument. Fact is defenders are meant to defend. Simpson is 2nd behind fuchs this season in doing that. I'd take a look at the 2 centre backs that are worse. The midfield that neither defends or creates before I worried about my right back. Did danny Simpson strangle your bird as well? Didnt Simpson lose the ball in their box due to his lack of foresight which resulted in a long punt to Lukaku?? Might say that the goal was kind of his fault!?!
Bayfox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 14 minutes ago, narboroughblue said: Didnt Simpson lose the ball in their box due to his lack of foresight which resulted in a long punt to Lukaku?? Might say that the goal was kind of his fault!?! Yes I guess you could say he was partly responsible for giving the ball away, however, he gave it away in their box, so i guess he was trying to get forward and offer an option, he did also provide the best cross of the game and leo couldn't score, but i don't think simpson was at fault for morgan not finding row Z we could all see who was gonna come out the winner when he decided to go shoulder to shoulder with someone, bigger, stronger, younger and fitter. As I have said several times, I think we have many more issues before we worry about our right back, if you can't see that, then you're watching different games to me, based on yesterday alone, Morgan, Amartey (once we go behind) panics to ****, Claudio thinking leaving a blowing albrighton on over gray, silimani, who's biggest asset seems to be complaining to his own team mates, when he jumps 3ft 6. Would be way up my list of issues before our full backs, the fact that drinky is overworked and looks knackered, that the PFA player of the year looks like josh low at the minute. It's a collective issue. Jan is gonna play a huge part in us staying up or going down, for me Hull and Swansea will go, but we are right in it with the likes of Sunderland at the minute, we know palace will improve now big sam is in, the next 2 games are crucial as well, 6 points great, 0 points, oh dear, but i'm not sure unless danny simpson sees 2 reds after conceeding 6 penalties he is solely to blame.
narboroughblue Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 2 minutes ago, Bayfox said: Yes I guess you could say he was partly responsible for giving the ball away, however, he gave it away in their box, so i guess he was trying to get forward and offer an option, he did also provide the best cross of the game and leo couldn't score, but i don't think simpson was at fault for morgan not finding row Z we could all see who was gonna come out the winner when he decided to go shoulder to shoulder with someone, bigger, stronger, younger and fitter. As I have said several times, I think we have many more issues before we worry about our right back, if you can't see that, then you're watching different games to me, based on yesterday alone, Morgan, Amartey (once we go behind) panics to ****, Claudio thinking leaving a blowing albrighton on over gray, silimani, who's biggest asset seems to be complaining to his own team mates, when he jumps 3ft 6. Would be way up my list of issues before our full backs, the fact that drinky is overworked and looks knackered, that the PFA player of the year looks like josh low at the minute. It's a collective issue. Jan is gonna play a huge part in us staying up or going down, for me Hull and Swansea will go, but we are right in it with the likes of Sunderland at the minute, we know palace will improve now big sam is in, the next 2 games are crucial as well, 6 points great, 0 points, oh dear, but i'm not sure unless danny simpson sees 2 reds after conceeding 6 penalties he is solely to blame. I don't disagree that we have bigger issues but I think right back is right up there with areas that need improvement. Both goals were centre back errors but did you expect any different with a 36 year old who looks a liability this season selected to play. With the change in approach of the opposition we need to be better on the ball and our full backs need to join in. Until our right back can do that we won't allow others (Mahrez) in particular more freedom to be creative. At least one centre back who is comfortable on the ball, a right back and at least one centre midfielder needed in January.
CloudFox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Thought he actually showed some attacking intent yesterday, and put one of our only decent crosses in for Leo. As much as we need a RB to challenge his spot, it's at CB that we need to upgrade first. To clarify, I'd say the order of priority is: CB RB CM
norwichfox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Simpson isn't so much of a problem as the lack of midfield quality in front of him.
Bayfox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 14 minutes ago, narboroughblue said: I don't disagree that we have bigger issues but I think right back is right up there with areas that need improvement. Both goals were centre back errors but did you expect any different with a 36 year old who looks a liability this season selected to play. With the change in approach of the opposition we need to be better on the ball and our full backs need to join in. Until our right back can do that we won't allow others (Mahrez) in particular more freedom to be creative. At least one centre back who is comfortable on the ball, a right back and at least one centre midfielder needed in January. But if we can spend 20 million on centre back who makes a real difference of 12 million on a centre back and 8 on a RB, right now i'd be going overboard for the CB not a replacement for simpson, the kante shaped hole in front of the back 4 has exposed them all yes, so we fix it by finding a kante, not happening, or get a commanding CB, i'm not suggesting Simpson is world class in anyway shape or form, but i've seen people suggest RDL would be a better option and I just can't see that myself.
narboroughblue Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 4 minutes ago, Bayfox said: But if we can spend 20 million on centre back who makes a real difference of 12 million on a centre back and 8 on a RB, right now i'd be going overboard for the CB not a replacement for simpson, the kante shaped hole in front of the back 4 has exposed them all yes, so we fix it by finding a kante, not happening, or get a commanding CB, i'm not suggesting Simpson is world class in anyway shape or form, but i've seen people suggest RDL would be a better option and I just can't see that myself. Does the cost really matter? We need both so if it's more on a centre back but also get a right back then that has to be our target. Kante was a freak so we have to adapt and actually keeping the ball and moving up the pitch as a team is essential. We won't do this without players who are more comfortable on the ball and full backs are essential to that.
Bayfox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 44 minutes ago, narboroughblue said: Does the cost really matter? We need both so if it's more on a centre back but also get a right back then that has to be our target. Kante was a freak so we have to adapt and actually keeping the ball and moving up the pitch as a team is essential. We won't do this without players who are more comfortable on the ball and full backs are essential to that. Of course cost matters. We aren't real Madrid. There has to be a balance. Yes we need to stay up. I'd suggest a centre back or centre mid gives us a better chance than a right back.
narboroughblue Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 4 minutes ago, Bayfox said: Of course cost matters. We aren't real Madrid. There has to be a balance. Yes we need to stay up. I'd suggest a centre back or centre mid gives us a better chance than a right back. Time will tell. I don't think a quality centre back without improving what's around him will make such enormous differences. I'd say Drinky is a quality player but even he has looked poor recently with what's around him. I'd rather two improvements rather than one quality centre back at the cost you suggest.
Bayfox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 13 minutes ago, narboroughblue said: Time will tell. I don't think a quality centre back without improving what's around him will make such enormous differences. I'd say Drinky is a quality player but even he has looked poor recently with what's around him. I'd rather two improvements rather than one quality centre back at the cost you suggest. Drinky looks knackered to be honest. Was carrying to much load early season trying to himself and Kante.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Oh come on he's not exactly the main issue is he.
ZeGuy Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Am I the only one who thinks Simpson is one of our smallest problems?
filbertboy Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 14 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: Am I the only one who thinks Simpson is one of our smallest problems? No. I'm with you.
Sammy Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 For me he's been our best defender this season.. bigger issues to focus on here
MC Prussian Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Pointless thread discussing and/or slating one particular player, when the issue is the team on the whole (in terms of motivation, team spirit, grit), coupled with individual mistakes, in particular the centre-back and midfield area. We concede too many soft goals through the middle and fail to create chances going forward in centre midfield and our crosses are either abysmal or non-existant, so our strikers are reeling for service. For what it's worth, I think Simpson's been one of the most consistent players this season and that says something.
okie fox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Simpson does the job that Ranieri tells him to do. We lost yesterday because our centre backs made a couple of mistakes.
VLC86 Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 3 hours ago, CloudFox said: Thought he actually showed some attacking intent yesterday, and put one of our only decent crosses in for Leo. As much as we need a RB to challenge his spot, it's at CB that we need to upgrade first. To clarify, I'd say the order of priority is: CB RB CM RB should be a priority over a midfield that is currently occupied by Amartey and King? ok mate.
irishmenfox Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Rubbish player. Says a lot that he was playing for QPR just 2 years ago in the championship. Kante shielded his weaknesses
Danno Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 31 minutes ago, irishmenfox said: Rubbish player. Says a lot that he was playing for QPR just 2 years ago in the championship. Kante shielded his weaknesses And Mahrez was playing in the championship for us 2 years ago too.
foxes21 Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 The midfield is the problem. We only have two/three players in our midfield that can actually defend and protect the back four.
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