Seaton Fox Posted 2 January 2017 Posted 2 January 2017 There seems to be some shocking refereeing inconsistencies this season . Just been watching the West Ham - Man U game . One of the west ham players took off with both feet and tackled a Man U player . Not even a yellow card . very similar incident to vardy tackle , considering what's at stake it's time that refs were a little more consistent in there decisions. Anybody else see that .?
Russell sprout Posted 2 January 2017 Posted 2 January 2017 The only consistentcy is how inconsistent refs are,but for once this went out way today
Spiritwalker Posted 2 January 2017 Posted 2 January 2017 Yeh, after today one of our favourite refs has had to change his name to, "refs not too badly" Madley.
Spudulike Posted 2 January 2017 Posted 2 January 2017 Whilst the inconsistancies of refs is bad enough, what really is inexcusable is the FA 'experts' not putting an incorrect decision right with the tools available in slow time after the event. Something is not right.
Jonezy Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 With all this shit reffing going on, I think Robert Madley actually deserves some props for a fine display yesterday!
goose2010 Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 they really need to bring in the flag system they use in the NFL, 1 flag each half that gets reviewed. It wont slow the game down it might actually make it better. The only concern is who is the right person to make the decision as if its the 4th offical they will just agree with the refs. Ref's should have to explain their decisions either in interviews or match reports they they write should be avaiable to view.
goose2010 Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 13 minutes ago, Jonezy said: With all this shit reffing going on, I think Robert Madley actually deserves some props for a fine display yesterday! agree, had a very good game didnt make himself centre of attention. MIddlesbrough fans were getting on his back a bit but if they watched it back i think they would agree he got 95% of stuff right.
Manwell Pablo Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 This whole excessive force two footed thing has just got well out of control that's the problem. We need to take a step back and actually get back to punishing dangerous tackles, not every single one that's a bit full blooded and not complete regulation technique. The ironic thing at the moment is it's the more dangerous tackles that aren't actually resulting in reds.
SpacedX Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 19 minutes ago, Jonezy said: With all this shit reffing going on, I think Robert Madley actually deserves some props for a fine display yesterday! Also agree. I was slating him prior to the match, largely for the stop start nature of his officiating, but he allowed an otherwise poor game of football to flow and his decisions were measured and fair.
chapero82 Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 They say the replays will slow the game down but the refs slow the game down anyway with the rubbish decisions! also look at yesterday's match the ref ruined it by sending a player off that didn't deserve to be
stripeyfox Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 Refererring has always been inconsistent. The ref has to make a call as he sees it and he won't always get it right. But there must be something which can be done at the top level. In the case of the sending off at West Ham yesterday, it could have been rectified simply if the rules allowed this: Ref shows red card and dismissed player Player leaves the field Game restarts 4th official reviews replayand if he determines that it wasn't a red, the player can rejoin the game
SpacedX Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 5 minutes ago, chapero82 said: They say the replays will slow the game down but the refs slow the game down anyway with the rubbish decisions! also look at yesterday's match the ref ruined it by sending a player off that didn't deserve to be They can do, but I get more frustrated by the incessant play acting and the theatrics of the players which interrupt and break the game in the first place. Musa's writhing around yesterday was frankly an embarrassment. A replay system would go some way to eliminating feigned injury (which is always a difficult call). This bullshit should be penalised and in cases where there is no contact the player sin binned.
Guest Papasmurf Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 24 minutes ago, Line-X said: They can do, but I get more frustrated by the incessant play acting and the theatrics of the players which interrupt and break the game in the first place. Musa's writhing around yesterday was frankly an embarrassment. A replay system would go some way to eliminating feigned injury (which is always a difficult call). This bullshit should be penalised and in cases where there is no contact the player sin binned. The way he twisted looked so unnatural to me I was worried he'd done something serious. I don't think he was making a meal of it for one moment.
Always Next Year Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 Things are not getting any better, what was 5 yellows as now gone up to ten before any action is taken. Are the FA really trying to make the game better. The game is turning into a right bag of sh-t we need instant replays to stop refs making so many fcuk ups and as far a yellow cards go send the player to a sin bin for 5 or 10 mins it will soon clean up the game.
MrSpaM Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 I'm waiting for the first player to get sent off for doing a backflip celebration as it's two feet off the floor, unnatural and not fully under control
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 From a purely anecdotal perspective it seems to me far more 'controversial' decisions go in favour of 'bigger clubs'. I would be very interested to see some statistical evidence on that if it existed!
Manwell Pablo Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 1 minute ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: From a purely anecdotal perspective it seems to me far more 'controversial' decisions go in favour of 'bigger clubs'. I would be very interested to see some statistical evidence on that if it existed! I'll give you one statistic, there were plenty of opportunities to give controversial decisions against us last season and the officiating on the most part was very good.
Seaton Fox Posted 3 January 2017 Author Posted 3 January 2017 14 minutes ago, Always Next Year said: Things are not getting any better, what was 5 yellows as now gone up to ten before any action is taken. Are the FA really trying to make the game better. The game is turning into a right bag of sh-t we need instant replays to stop refs making so many fcuk ups and as far a yellow cards go send the player to a sin bin for 5 or 10 mins it will soon clean up the game. Agree entirely, other top sports have the replays, cricket, tennis , rugby , why o why is football lagging behind when it should be leading the way in terms of technology being the richest sport monetarily. it would add another dimension to the game and possibley reduce the incidents of cheating etc. sin bin for 10 minutes sounds good idea.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 14 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: I'll give you one statistic, there were plenty of opportunities to give controversial decisions against us last season and the officiating on the most part was very good. I wasn't talking about us - I meant in general. Your 'statistic' is an anecdote.
Manwell Pablo Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 10 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: I wasn't talking about us - I meant in general. Your 'statistic' is an anecdote. Clearly aware it's not an actual statistic. Man U have had a few recently, it's not hard to remember 6 weeks previous when Mourinho got himself a ban for implying officiating was partly to blame for their low league position, also Fernadinho yesterday was a bit of a joke, happens to all clubs.
SpacedX Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 38 minutes ago, Papasmurf said: The way he twisted looked so unnatural to me I was worried he'd done something serious. I don't think he was making a meal of it for one moment. So did I - (and there lies another issue)...until he got up two minutes later and started haring around again. "I don't think he was making a meal of it for one moment." That's because you're used to seeing footballers doing it. It happens in general about half a dozen times a match - on a rugby field the medical team would be on within a nano second because these reactions are so rare. And actually, when a player is motionless it tends to be more serious. One of the reasons Matty James' ACL injury looked so nasty at the time. I don't suppose you saw the Oakland Raiders QB Derek Carr break his fibula last week did you? No theatrics, he immediately gestured and called for the medics, most athletes being aware of their own physiology instead of lashing around like a floundering electric eel. The writhing around and the agonised expressions is an accepted part of the game and it's very very embarrassing.
Jonezy Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 58 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: From a purely anecdotal perspective it seems to me far more 'controversial' decisions go in favour of 'bigger clubs'. I would be very interested to see some statistical evidence on that if it existed! Is that not just because the bigger clubs have the ball and attack more, so they more often get into positions where they get dodgy penalties, red cards for the opposition and offside goals. The reason Dele Alli gets so many penalties with his antics, is that he actually gets into those situations with the ball...
stripeyfox Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 1 hour ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: From a purely anecdotal perspective it seems to me far more 'controversial' decisions go in favour of 'bigger clubs'. I would be very interested to see some statistical evidence on that if it existed! I doubt it. There is no objectivity is there? If we get a dodgy decision against us everyone moans about it but if Vardy goes over easily for a penalty then it is glossed over. Same for every team. Selective memory - you only remember the key decisions which go against you AND cost you a game.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 3 January 2017 Posted 3 January 2017 3 hours ago, Jonezy said: Is that not just because the bigger clubs have the ball and attack more, so they more often get into positions where they get dodgy penalties, red cards for the opposition and offside goals. The reason Dele Alli gets so many penalties with his antics, is that he actually gets into those situations with the ball... Well, maybe so as we have no evidence either way to prove otherwise. Re: Alli. He is a snide, nasty price of work generally. Add to that he's diving/cheating at every opportunity and the ref's are not putting a stop to it you have a recipe for getting wrongful decisions in his favour. We have seen video replays of his antics over the last two seasons, so that I don't think can be denied.
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