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Manchester United pre-match

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Posted
19 minutes ago, ceebeefox said:

Never thought I'd say this but Joey Barton got 3 or 4 shots on goal Tuesday and it got me thinking how many of our central midfielders ever shoot? , even last year!

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I don't really care a lot about assists and goals from the CMs as long as they are doing their job

 

For me, a midfield 2 can only work with two types together: a DM and a box to box. The one that supposed to be the DM is doing his jobs. But, the one that should be the box to box is not. And that's why I think Drinkwater is now a liability.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Adster said:

 Play them all then!

Or keep it on the carpet and play,

.                                                          Kasper

.   Simpson             Morgan.                              Huth.                   Fuchs

.                                  Drinkwater.                  Ndidi 

.                   Gray.                        Mahrez.               Musa

.                                               Vardy

Hopefully give United something to think about, pace and skill everywhere, or the best we can put out anyway. I think we finished with this at Derby when we played as well as I have seen since 0-0 with the Arse at home.

Posted
6 minutes ago, ceebeefox said:

Or keep it on the carpet and play,

.                                                          Kasper

.   Simpson             Morgan.                              Huth.                   Fuchs

.                                  Drinkwater.                  Ndidi 

.                   Gray.                        Mahrez.               Musa

.                                               Vardy

Hopefully give United something to think about, pace and skill everywhere, or the best we can put out anyway. I think we finished with this at Derby when we played as well as I have seen since 0-0 with the Arse at home.

This is not exaggerating.... If we play that team we will lose by 4 to 5 goals. We're playing 4 players who literally do nothing off the ball and to play 2 in midfield against a united 3 of Carrick, Herrera & Pogba is suicide. 

Guest Col city fan
Posted
3 hours ago, Babylon said:

I don't buy into that theory that it's all down to him. We played decent football and stayed up without him, when he didn't start last year we still fought and played well.

 

Of course it's going to impact you losing probably one of the best in the world, but not to this extent. He's just another one of many reasons.

You've made this argument pretty much all season, perhaps from the pre season?

And I agree to an extent.

But I've always thought losing this one player has had a bigger impact than you've given credit for and that it is our midfield that has been our Achilles heel pretty much all season.

I concede, it's not mainly down to Amartey. I thought him playing had a big impact on us suffering so many losses, but it's clear it's down to more than that. If anything, we've looked even worse without him playing.

Our midfield was bolstered so much by Kante. He enabled us to play a higher line and to get forward so quickly.

Not the whole reason, no doubt, but a big one, also no doubt. Our midfield at this level has been awful. Utterly awful.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

You've made this argument pretty much all season, perhaps from the pre season?

And I agree to an extent.

But I've always thought losing this one player has had a bigger impact than you've given credit for and that it is our midfield that has been our Achilles heel pretty much all season.

I concede, it's not mainly down to Amartey. I thought him playing had a big impact on us suffering so many losses, but it's clear it's down to more than that. If anything, we've looked even worse without him playing.

Our midfield was bolstered so much by Kante. He enabled us to play a higher line and to get forward so quickly.

Not the whole reason, no doubt, but a big one, also no doubt. Our midfield at this level has been awful. Utterly awful.

Yes. .. without kante the team were wary of what woukd happen. .... they choked. Now they war playing with cautik6n and too much concentration to try and avoid mistakes..... they are not playing freely. Yes kantes departure made this happen 

Posted
13 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

This is not exaggerating.... If we play that team we will lose by 4 to 5 goals. We're playing 4 players who literally do nothing off the ball and to play 2 in midfield against a united 3 of Carrick, Herrera & Pogba is suicide. 

It's the only way I see us winning, yes it's cavalier but United at home should be treated as a freebie and let's try and have a go. I would sooner lose 4-2 having a go and entertaining than play a cautious system that has served us poorly all season, even 6-2 given your prediction. Anyway if they were told to graft and close down from the front like Liverpool have this year it may work fine.

Posted

Same shit defence, same weak midfield and same attack who struggle to create and can't score.

 

Schmeichel 

Simpson - Morgan - Huth - Chilwell 

King - N'Didi - Drinkwater

Mahrez - Slimani - Gray

 

Go with that and hope we don't get a hiding, don't really want to see Simpson, Morgan, Huth & Drinky but we have fvck all else, our back up is terrible.

Posted

                       Kasper 

Albrighton   new guy  huth  Chilwell 

 

       Mendy drinkwater nididi 

 

Mahrez                                    gray

                     Slimani (if not fit leo)

Posted
5 minutes ago, lcfcdamo said:

                       Kasper 

Albrighton   new guy  huth  Chilwell 

 

       Mendy drinkwater nididi 

 

Mahrez                                    gray

                     Slimani (if not fit leo)

Then bring on musa for gray or Mahrez at about 60 mins and if we are losing kapustka on for 1 of the cms

Posted
7 minutes ago, lcfcdamo said:

                       Kasper 

Albrighton   new guy  huth  Chilwell 

 

       Mendy drinkwater nididi 

 

Mahrez                                    gray

                     Slimani (if not fit leo)

Also then on breaks we can send Albrighton and Chilwell further up and nididi can drop into defence when needed 

Posted

                              Kasper

Simpson         Huth           Morgan           Fuchs

                 Mendy                   N'didi

                              Drinkwater

Mahrez                                                    Gray

                              Slimani (Or Musa dep on Slim)

Posted

He'll never do it but I'd like to see 

    

                      Schmeichel

       Wague       Morgan        Huth

albrighton    Ndidi    Drinky     Chilwell 

      Mahrez        Slimani       Gray

 

don't  know if amarteys back from afcon by then if he is I'd put him in at the back. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Lcfcrory said:

He'll never do it but I'd like to see 

    

                      Schmeichel

       Wague       Morgan        Huth

albrighton    Ndidi    Drinky     Chilwell 

      Mahrez        Slimani       Gray

 

don't  know if amarteys back from afcon by then if he is I'd put him in at the back. 

Like that .....although might be tempted to leave Drinkwater out for Mendy....

Posted
2 hours ago, Lcfcrory said:

He'll never do it but I'd like to see 

    

                      Schmeichel

       Wague       Morgan        Huth

albrighton    Ndidi    Drinky     Chilwell 

      Mahrez        Slimani       Gray

 

don't  know if amarteys back from afcon by then if he is I'd put him in at the back. 

Ghana losing 1-0 right now with about 11 mins left and extra time. Still don't think we'll have him game ready by Man U but you never know.

Posted
11 minutes ago, USFox said:

Ghana losing 1-0 right now with about 11 mins left and extra time. Still don't think we'll have him game ready by Man U but you never know.

On his way home now.......

Posted
5 hours ago, lcfcdamo said:

Then bring on musa for gray or Mahrez at about 60 mins and if we are losing kapustka on for 1 of the cms

lollol I do admire your optimism that we might not be losing on 60 minutes

Posted

Kasper 

 

simpson

morgan 

huth

chilwell

 

ndidi

 

mendy

drinkwater

 

mahrez

slimani

gray

 

id like to see mendy and drinkwater next to each other in a central mid role each. Not on the right and left of a three having to cover wings. 

 

I want Vardy to find his feet again and maybe taking him out the limelight may help.

 

give us something we don't expect lads. I'm tired of being sad and angry.

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