leicsmac Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 1 hour ago, Bellend Sebastian said: We live in strange, strange times http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42166663 Wish I could say I was surprised.
Wymsey Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 He'll say someone hacked into his account etc.
leicsmac Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 3 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: He'll say someone hacked into his account etc. Were it most others I'd agree with this...but this is Trump. Never apologise, never explain.
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 Britain First are vile but if you are more concerned about a retweet rather than the content of the tweet you are part of the problem.
Guest FriendlyRam Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 When is he getting removed? This is getting absolutely pethetic,, the man is a disgrace and should be gone by now, hes gloated about grabbing women, theyve just sacked an nbc anchor for something less, yet trump carries on. I get the feeling they dont want him removed, hes perfect divide and conquer isnt he, the public should get him out, by his neck.
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 5 minutes ago, MattP said: Britain First are vile but if you are more concerned about a retweet rather than the content of the tweet you are part of the problem. Contents of the tweet were fair and reasonable were they? I don't have twitter so I can't say I've seen....
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 3 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Contents of the tweet were fair and reasonable were they? I don't have twitter so I can't say I've seen.... I actually don't know myself which makes my original statement a bit daft. I just don't get the outrage that follows everything Trump does, people can't wait to go crazy at anything he does.
leicsmac Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 3 minutes ago, MattP said: I actually don't know myself which makes my original statement a bit daft. I just don't get the outrage that follows everything Trump does, people can't wait to go crazy at anything he does. Three videos from what I can tell, not watched them, though. I must say though there's a cause and effect thing going on here: if people want folks to stop being outraged at what Trump does, then perhaps he should stop doing outrageous things? Unless this isn't all that outrageous in the minds of some folks?
Rogstanley Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 11 minutes ago, MattP said: I actually don't know myself which makes my original statement a bit daft. I just don't get the outrage that follows everything Trump does, people can't wait to go crazy at anything he does. Probably because people hold the president of the United States to higher standards than they do some no-mark attention seeking scummer from the far right.
Buce Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 30 minutes ago, MattP said: Britain First are vile but if you are more concerned about a retweet rather than the content of the tweet you are part of the problem. It's not so much the re-tweet, rather the person who is doing the re-tweeting. If Theresa may re-tweeted a film promoting paedophilia (for example) would you take the same stance?
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 2 minutes ago, Buce said: It's not so much the re-tweet, rather the person who is doing the re-tweeting. If Theresa may re-tweeted a film promoting paedophilia (for example) would you take the same stance? I don't understand what you are saying here. I've just looked and Trump retweeted a homophobic attack (albeit from a racist), how is that akin to our PM "promoting" paedophilia? Really am baffled.
Captain... Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 37 minutes ago, MattP said: Britain First are vile but if you are more concerned about a retweet rather than the content of the tweet you are part of the problem. Both are a problem, the fact that people are creating such videos and putting them out there, and the people that then share them to their millions of followers. 4 minutes ago, Buce said: It's not so much the re-tweet, rather the person who is doing the re-tweeting. If Theresa may re-tweeted a film promoting paedophilia (for example) would you take the same stance? Same as above, people making films promoting paedophilia are a big problem, as are people sharing and distributing them.
Carl the Llama Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 1 minute ago, Buce said: It's not so much the re-tweet, rather the person who is doing the re-tweeting. If Theresa may re-tweeted a film promoting paedophilia (for example) would you take the same stance? I'd hardly say retweeting those videos is on a par with promoting paedophilia, it's more like if Mrs May shared a video of the patrons of a gay bar beating up normies in the alley out back - the contents are undoubtedly to be reviled (except the one video Trump shared of some randomer smashing a shit statue of the virgin Mary which I personally find pretty hard to get upset about much like people burning flags, if it was a genuine work of art it would be different) but it's irresponsible of the influential public figure to use it as a way of saying "see, they're all like that, get angry at them".
leicsmac Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 Just now, Carl the Llama said: I'd hardly say retweeting those videos is on a par with promoting paedophilia, it's more like if Mrs May shared a video of the patrons of a gay bar beating up normies in the alley out back - the contents are undoubtedly to be reviled (except the one video Trump shared of some randomer smashing a shit statue of the virgin Mary which I personally find pretty hard to get upset about much like people burning flags, if it was a genuine work of art it would be different) but it's irresponsible of the influential public figure to use it as a way of saying "see, they're all like that, get angry at them". This, of course, being the whole idea.
Buce Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: I don't understand what you are saying here. I've just looked and Trump retweeted a homophobic attack (albeit from a racist), how is that akin to our PM "promoting" paedophilia? Really am baffled. I'm trying to put it in terms that might resonate with you (purely hypothetical, of course). As I understand it, Trump re-tweeted three anti-muslim videos; if you can't see what's wrong with that, then I'd be wasting my time trying to explain it to you.
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 Just watched all the videos, absolutely absurd for Trump to retweet them.
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 1 minute ago, Buce said: I'm trying to put it in terms that might resonate with you (purely hypothetical, of course). As I understand it, Trump re-tweeted three anti-muslim videos; if you can't see what's wrong with that, then I'd be wasting my time trying to explain it to you I get that, I'm just trying to work out how it equates to Theresa May promoting peadophilia?
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 6 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: I'd hardly say retweeting those videos is on a par with promoting paedophilia, it's more like if Mrs May shared a video of the patrons of a gay bar beating up normies in the alley out back - the contents are undoubtedly to be reviled (except the one video Trump shared of some randomer smashing a shit statue of the virgin Mary which I personally find pretty hard to get upset about much like people burning flags, if it was a genuine work of art it would be different) but it's irresponsible of the influential public figure to use it as a way of saying "see, they're all like that, get angry at them". Explained it far better than I did.
Buce Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 5 minutes ago, MattP said: I get that, I'm just trying to work out how it equates to Theresa May promoting peadophilia? In truth, it was probably an ill-conceived example.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 Jayda Frensen is a good old traditional British name.
Simi Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 53 minutes ago, MattP said: Britain First are vile but if you are more concerned about a retweet rather than the content of the tweet you are part of the problem. The fact that you wrote this without even knowing what the content was is shocking. It was a video of a kid being beaten to death. No matter what the context, for the President of the United States to tweet that is appalling. I know you've acknowledged the fact it's wrong later on, but it's concerning how quick you are to try and spin something in the opposite direction.
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 Just now, Simi said: The fact that you wrote this without even knowing what the content was is shocking. It was a video of a kid being beaten to death. No matter what the context, for the President of the United States to tweet that is appalling. I know you've acknowledged the fact it's wrong later on, but it's concerning how quick you are to try and spin something in the opposite direction. I genuinely apologise, indefensible for the US president to retweet from such sources. I do wish the World took such a view that was so aggresive towards people that commit these crimes though. He's a shyster doing it for political gain. Despite being a vile Tory I hate seeing this stuff. If I was England captain now I'd be on TV telling the World I'm wearing a rainbow armband in Russia next year and I'd dare them to lock me in prison for it.
Simi Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: I genuinely apologise, indefensible for the US president to retweet from such sources. I do wish the World took such a view that was so aggresive towards people that commit these crimes though. He's a shyster doing it for political gain. Despite being a vile Tory I hate seeing this stuff. If I was England captain now I'd be on TV telling the World I'm wearing a rainbow armband in Russia next year and I'd dare them to lock me in prison for it. Good man.
leicsmac Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 3 minutes ago, MattP said: I genuinely apologise, indefensible for the US president to retweet from such sources. I do wish the World took such a view that was so aggresive towards people that commit these crimes though. He's a shyster doing it for political gain. Despite being a vile Tory I hate seeing this stuff. If I was England captain now I'd be on TV telling the World I'm wearing a rainbow armband in Russia next year and I'd dare them to lock me in prison for it. Agree with every word of this, and really well put.
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Posted 29 November 2017 29 minutes ago, Simi said: Good man. 26 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Agree with every word of this, and really well put. Cheers guys, easy to say on here of course by I do hope I would have the balls to carry it out.
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