Mr Mister Posted 29 November 2017 Share Posted 29 November 2017 This man is a disgrace. It is time that the UK cuts its ties with the USA and stop acting as their poodle. Time for the government to show some balls. But no, it seems our Prime Minister is just as racist as he is by accepting his state visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 November 2017 Share Posted 29 November 2017 53 minutes ago, Mr Mister said: This man is a disgrace. It is time that the UK cuts its ties with the USA and stop acting as their poodle. Time for the government to show some balls. But no, it seems our Prime Minister is just as racist as he is by accepting his state visit. Cut all ties with the USA because they elected a president you don't like? No talks no trade and probably the end of us being able to afford things like the NHS because you don't like a guy who might be out of office in less than 36 months? Insane. Racists aren't always wrong either, despite our desire for them to be - Ian Smith said in a famous BBC interview Mugabe would rule for 30 years, imprison opponents and lead his country to poverty for all. He was spot on no matter how hard it is to admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 29 November 2017 Share Posted 29 November 2017 (edited) And the White House is (as is their wont) doubling down rather than stepping back on this one. Edited 29 November 2017 by leicsmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 29 November 2017 Share Posted 29 November 2017 7 hours ago, MattP said: Britain First are vile but if you are more concerned about a retweet rather than the content of the tweet you are part of the problem. This is nonsense, unless you're an Ostrich you're probably aware that there's an issue with Islamic extremism that needs combatting. Two of the three video's have been verified as having nothing to do with Islamic extremism. This is a man with a crazy amount of power and coverage giving air time to a group in a foreign country that he knows causes division and fractures in our society, which he probably knows has inspired a man to kill a member of our parliament. It's calculated and it's evil, pure evil and the sooner this lunatic gets impeached, the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mister Posted 29 November 2017 Share Posted 29 November 2017 4 hours ago, MattP said: Cut all ties with the USA because they elected a president you don't like? No talks no trade and probably the end of us being able to afford things like the NHS because you don't like a guy who might be out of office in less than 36 months? Insane. Racists aren't always wrong either, despite our desire for them to be - Ian Smith said in a famous BBC interview Mugabe would rule for 30 years, imprison opponents and lead his country to poverty for all. He was spot on no matter how hard it is to admit. We should have no association with this racist of a President. He is toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 Told you all last year we were in for a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 Trump tells May to mind her business: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42176507 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 8 hours ago, Mr Mister said: We should have no association with this racist of a President. He is toxic. Yes and no. World leaders, including May, should not pander to him, they should call his nonsense out and remind him of the decorum a statesman should act with, but you were talking about, in essence, putting an embargo on one of the biggest economies in the world, because he's a tool - a completely disproportionate response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 I do feel a bit sorry for May in this situation and that Sajid Javid tweet isn’t particularly helpful. To be honest, we all want her to go hell fire on Trump but deep down, we all know and can very well accept that she can do absolutely nothing at this moment except say something incredibly meek and diplomatic. Trump’s presidential reign will go down as one of the most bizarre in history. At the start I thought he should get the benefit of the doubt but from day 1, all he’s done is treat being president as a massive ego trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simi Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 His state visit is going to be slightly chaotic I feel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Simi said: His state visit is going to be slightly chaotic I feel. I’ll be fairly annoyed after this debacle if the invite is not withdrawn. State visits are an honour not a right. Without getting all ‘Love Actually’ about this we should be prepared to stand up to bullies and be stronger. The rest of the world will respect us for doing so as well. Edited 30 November 2017 by Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 5 hours ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: I do feel a bit sorry for May in this situation and that Sajid Javid tweet isn’t particularly helpful. To be honest, we all want her to go hell fire on Trump but deep down, we all know and can very well accept that she can do absolutely nothing at this moment except say something incredibly meek and diplomatic. Trump’s presidential reign will go down as one of the most bizarre in history. At the start I thought he should get the benefit of the doubt but from day 1, all he’s done is treat being president as a massive ego trip. Sadly this is pretty much spot on. Though he may be a buffoon and some of those in his legislature and cabinet flat-out nasty (far worse than he is), the US isn't the man in charge right now and we owe them too much to be able to turn our backs without it really hurting. It's just unfortunate that they are stuck with him for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 Jonathan Pie has, apparently, had enough. https://www.facebook.com/JonathanPieReporter/videos/1399627930160096/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 Presidents change...America not Trump is our friend... No state visit. Maybe sometime next year a low-key invitation.... He makes a state visit, you guarrantee unrest, unnecessary Violent Police -demonstrator clashes, those being in not just London but other UK cities. No its not worth it.The man hasnt earnt the right, either respect, or even the bad press... Why put police, organisers, UK politicians who dont support his office, under unnecessary hypocritical positions. A Uk government who supports the visit and guarranteed unrest dont deserve the electorates trust.... Hey have a quickie.....Referendum for Trexit. We have a custom office that deny entrance to undesirables and it is a criminal offence to allow fraudulent office to be recognised.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 He should totally be allowed to visit, just so long as the British public are allowed to make their feelings clear on this and he's not just heliported from one engagement to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 27 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: He should totally be allowed to visit, just so long as the British public are allowed to make their feelings clear on this and he's not just heliported from one engagement to another. Way I see it if he does come they'll have no choice but to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogstanley Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 I think it’s a golden opportunity for May to show a bit of backbone. Withdraw the invitation and tell trump to do one. We wouldn’t be turning out back on America, we’d be turning our back on trump. Most of the more influential Americans would respect us for it as would most of the rest of the world. Unfortunately Theresa has already stumbled her way through quite a pitiful media Q&A session so it’s too late for her to act decisively, but it’s not too late for her to make the right decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 In an ideal world they'd withdraw the invitation and invite a Mattis or a Kelly instead however, like Amber Rudd says, we need to bide our time and once this psychopath is gone, we're going to need a very strong relationship with the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 That knob cheese hasn't even come to Canada and we are his neighbours. In fact us and mexico are their biggest, closest friends and he doesn’t give 2 shites about coming here (which is fine by me). Its customary for all usa presidents to go to canada and to mexico first. Most of the time they come here first but whatever. I mean its not a huge deal but odd to say the least. A list of countries he has gone to before us.. Instead, Trump opted to travel first to Saudi Arabia. Then he went to Israel. Then Palestine. Then Italy, the Vatican, Poland, Germany, France, Japan, South Korea, China, Vietnam and, most recently, the Philippines. Maybe he can choose to never come that would be great. Or just deny him entry at the border How he is entitled to a state visit to England is a joke especially after his tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 15 hours ago, Buce said: Trump tells May to mind her business: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42176507 Rightfully so, sort your own shit out first you bitch before throwing stones at other people's glass houses 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 30 November 2017 Share Posted 30 November 2017 Our governments has given state visits to leaders who have commited genocide and all sorts of attrocities and no peep. A US president send a couple of tweets and there is hysteria Don't get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 1 December 2017 Share Posted 1 December 2017 https://politics.theonion.com/trump-retweets-video-from-anti-muslim-hate-group-1820885422 It's finally happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebum Posted 1 December 2017 Share Posted 1 December 2017 This country has always prentended it is more morally righteous than any other but the facts are there for all to see. This big uproar just because he tweeted these videos.. how about addressing what is in these videoes rather than going on a rampage against whoever posted them? We can all see the real problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 1 December 2017 Author Share Posted 1 December 2017 30 minutes ago, somebum said: This country has always prentended it is more morally righteous than any other but the facts are there for all to see. This big uproar just because he tweeted these videos.. how about addressing what is in these videoes rather than going on a rampage against whoever posted them? We can all see the real problem Oh, go on then, don't just hint at it, tell us what you think "the real problem" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 1 December 2017 Share Posted 1 December 2017 1 hour ago, somebum said: This country has always prentended it is more morally righteous than any other but the facts are there for all to see. This big uproar just because he tweeted these videos.. how about addressing what is in these videoes rather than going on a rampage against whoever posted them? We can all see the real problem Yes. And it’s you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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