body102 Posted 11 February 2020 Share Posted 11 February 2020 Was a great trip , i have now manged to sober up . Fantastic hospitality ,met great people and had a blast . The cancelled ferries , immigrants and coach door added an extra element to the trip . OH played some good stuff and thoroughly deserved their win , will definitely return some time in the future . All thanks to our owners , who have to be the best in football 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelotas Posted 12 February 2020 Share Posted 12 February 2020 (edited) Meanwhile yesterday OHL drew nil-nil against Union SG in a replay of the game that was cancelled due to floodlight failure last year. Both teams played with many new names as the match was of little importance and focus lies on the coming few matches. Youngsters Thierno Gaye (20) and Toon Raemaekers (19) got a first start, as did our Slovenian summer signing Milan Tučić (23). All did quite well although Gaye got sent off on the hour mark after collecting a second yellow. Team held on to the draw but could have lost easily, although Perbet, who also got to start, squandered some chances on the counter by being too selfish. Anyway, focus on the big match friday... Edited 12 February 2020 by Pelotas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza Posted 12 February 2020 Share Posted 12 February 2020 51 minutes ago, Pelotas said: Meanwhile yesterday OHL drew nil-nil against Union SG in a replay of the game that was cancelled due to floodlight failure last year. Both teams played with many new names as the match was of little importance and focus lies on the coming few matches. Youngsters Thierno Gaye (20) and Toon Raemaekers (19) got a first start, as did our Slovenian summer signing Milan Tučić (23). All did quite well although Gaye got sent off on the hour mark after collecting a second yellow. Team held on to the draw but could have lost easily, although Perbet, who also got to start, squandered some chances on the counter by being too selfish. Anyway, focus on the big match friday... 6-minute version: https://www.proximus-sports.be/nl/voetbal/proximus-league/video/27828/samenvatting-oh-leuven-union-saint-gilloise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted 12 February 2020 Share Posted 12 February 2020 1 hour ago, Pelotas said: Meanwhile yesterday OHL drew nil-nil against Union SG in a replay of the game that was cancelled due to floodlight failure last year. Both teams played with many new names as the match was of little importance and focus lies on the coming few matches. Youngsters Thierno Gaye (20) and Toon Raemaekers (19) got a first start, as did our Slovenian summer signing Milan Tučić (23). All did quite well although Gaye got sent off on the hour mark after collecting a second yellow. Team held on to the draw but could have lost easily, although Perbet, who also got to start, squandered some chances on the counter by being too selfish. Anyway, focus on the big match friday... Why do you say that this game was of little importance? If OHL won, they could have gone further ahead at the top of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 12 February 2020 Share Posted 12 February 2020 7 minutes ago, coolcol said: Why do you say that this game was of little importance? If OHL won, they could have gone further ahead at the top of the league Rescheduled game from the first part of the Season. Basically a friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted 12 February 2020 Share Posted 12 February 2020 16 minutes ago, Ashley said: Rescheduled game from the first part of the Season. Basically a friendly That makes sense now as they had already won the first half league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelotas Posted 13 February 2020 Share Posted 13 February 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, coolcol said: That makes sense now as they had already won the first half league. Exactly, although it still matters for the overall combined standings in case two different teams win both halves. In that case in the promotion playoffs between these two teams, the team with the most points overall gets home advantage in the return leg. As Euvrard used many reserves, obviously they focus on going for the win in the second part of the season, which would mean automatic promotion. In the overall standings they're however only two points clear of Virton and three of Westerlo (but largely behind to both teams on goal difference), so if either one of those manages to win the second half of the season and overtakes OHL in the overall standings, they'll lose home advantage in the promotion playoffs. In that case a win against Union SG might still have made a difference in playing home or away first. Continuing on that, yesterday the postponed match of last weekend (due to storm Ciara) between Westerlo and Lokeren ended in 3-2, pushing OH Leuven again into second place (standings in the second half of the league). So virtually we're looking at promotion playoffs between OHL and Westerlo. If Westerlo wins all three remaining matches, OHL can only overtake them by also winning three times and making up a 5 goal deficit in the process, don't see that happening. Points Wins Losses Draws Goals made Goals conceded Goal difference 1. Westerlo 17 5 4 2 20 16 +4 2. OH Leuven 17 5 4 2 18 19 -1 3. Beerschot 17 4 2 5 12 7 +5 4. Virton 17 4 2 5 12 8 +4 5. Lommel 15 4 4 3 11 15 -4 6. Union 15 3 2 6 14 10 +4 7. Roeselare 12 2 4 6 16 17 -1 8. Lokeren 6 1 5 4 9 20 -11 Classification rules: 1) points, 2) matches won, 3) goal diff, 4) goals scored, 5) away goals scored, 6) away matches won, 7) playoff Never happened before that 4 teams, let alone 6, still have a realistic chance of winning with just three games to go. All games are now crucial as it might come down to matches won or even goal difference. Tomorrow is already do or die: Remaining matches This weekend: Friday: Beerschot - OH Leuven Saturday: Union - Roeselare Lommel - Westerlo Sunday: Lokeren - Virton Penultimate matchday: 21 Feb: OH Leuven - Union SG 22 Feb: Westerlo - Virton and Roeselare - Lokeren 23 Feb: Beerschot - Lommel Final matchday: 28 Feb: Lommel - Roeselare, Lokeren - Beerschot, Union SG - Westerlo and Virton - OH Leuven Edited 13 February 2020 by Pelotas fix error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza Posted 14 February 2020 Share Posted 14 February 2020 2-1 defeat against Beerschot today, although we were the better team. Shit happens sometimes... This result might be the end to our dreams on winning the 2nd period. Time to focus on the final! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza Posted 14 February 2020 Share Posted 14 February 2020 highlights: 6-minute version: https://www.proximus-sports.be/nl/voetbal/proximus-league/video/27867/samenvatting-beerschot-oh-leuven 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza Posted 16 February 2020 Share Posted 16 February 2020 Results and standings after the 12th week of the 2nd period. Beerschot - OH Leuven 2-1 Union - Roeselare 3-3 Lommel - Westerlo 0-1 Lokeren - Virton 0-2 Points Wins Losses Draws Goals made Goals conceded Goal difference 1. Westerlo 20 6 4 2 21 16 +5 2. Beerschot 20 5 2 5 14 8 +6 3. Virton 20 5 2 5 14 8 +6 4. OH Leuven 17 5 5 2 19 21 -2 5. Union 16 3 2 7 17 13 +4 6. Lommel 15 4 5 3 11 16 -5 7. Roeselare 13 2 4 7 19 20 -1 8. Lokeren 6 1 6 3 7 18 -11 The winner of the 2nd period will face us in the final. If we also win the 2nd period, we automatically win the league an go up to the 1st division. Overall standings: Points Wins Losses Draws Goals made Goals conceded Goal difference 1. Virton 47 14 7 5 40 18 +22 2. Westerlo 46 14 8 4 42 26 +16 3. OH Leuven 46 14 8 4 41 31 +10 4. Union 39 9 5 12 35 28 +7 5. Beerschot 37 10 9 7 27 27 0 6. Lommel 26 6 12 8 20 35 -15 7. Roeselare 23 5 12 9 35 52 -17 8. Lokeren 19 4 15 7 22 45 -23 At the end of the regular season the teams that finished 1st, 2nd, 3th, 4th, 5th and 6th will participate in Playoff 2 with the numbers 7 through 16 of the 1st division. The winner of Playoff 2 will compete with the 4th placed team in Playoff 1 for a place the Europa League 2nd qualifying round. The 2 bottom teams will face off in a best-of-5 to decide who drops down to the 1st amateur division. Next week's fixtures: Friday: OH Leuven - Union Saturday: Westerlo - Virton Roeselare - Lokeren Sunday: Beerschot - Lommel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 16 February 2020 Share Posted 16 February 2020 Is the final at a neutral venue, over two legs or at the home ground of one of the finalists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza Posted 16 February 2020 Share Posted 16 February 2020 1 hour ago, Nalis said: Is the final at a neutral venue, over two legs or at the home ground of one of the finalists? The final will be played over 2 legs. The team with the best position in the overall standings can play the 2nd leg at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelotas Posted 16 February 2020 Share Posted 16 February 2020 Terrible weekend for OHL really. Lost against direct opponents Beerschot while both Virton and Westerlo also won their match. While mathematically it's still possible to win the second half of the season, it's very unlikely all three teams above will slip up with just two matches to go. What's worse, both Virton and Westerlo have now overtaken OHL in the overall standings, which, if this remains like that and one of them wins the second period, will mean that the first leg of the promotion playoffs will be played in Leuven, the return leg will occur in Westerlo/Virton. So, now sure which team we want to meet in the promotion finals: * Beerschot is the weakest of the three teams and we'll have home advantage, but they have a strong backing and have narrowly missed out on promotion the two previous seasons. They will be fired up should they reach the promotion playoffs. * Westerlo has a decent team but it's quite close (30 mins by car) and a cozy small stadium to take over, but we tend to do very poorly against their coach (Bob Peeters). * Virton has the strongest team of the three, but it's probably the place in the whole of Belgium with the longest commute from Leuven. >2hrs by car. On the other hand they were amateurs last season and their facilities are really subpar... surely this team is not fit for the top division. Remaining fixtures: 21 Feb: OH Leuven - Union SG 22 Feb: Westerlo - Virton and Roeselare - Lokeren 23 Feb: Beerschot - Lommel Final matchday: 28 Feb: Lommel - Roeselare, Lokeren - Beerschot, Union SG - Westerlo and Virton - OH Leuven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelotas Posted 16 February 2020 Share Posted 16 February 2020 If the current standings were final, then the following would happen: Division 1B Promotional Playoffs between winner of first half of the season (OH Leuven) and winner of second half of the season (Westerlo). Two legged finals, with Westerlo hosting the return match by virtue of being higher ranked in the overall standings (both 46 pts but Westerlo leading on goal diff). Playoff 2 (Europa League Playoffs): Virton, Westerlo, OH Leuven, Union SG, Beerschot and Lommel qualify by virtue of finishing top 6 overall (period 1 + period 2). Virtual groups: group A: Mechelen, Oostende, Waasland-Beveren, Lommel group B: Zulte Waregem, Eupen, Cercle Brugge, Beerschot group C: Anderlecht, Sint-Truiden, Virton, Union SG group D: Excel Mouscron, Kortrijk, Westerlo, OH Leuven 4 group winners play home & away semi finals (A vs C & B vs D) and final with highest league finisher always hosting the return match. Final winner plays 4th place finisher of playoff 1 (or 5th in case one of top four wins the cup, in this case if Antwerp or Club Brugge win the cup and finish top 4) for final European ticket in single match at stadium of highest league finisher = PO1 team. Playoff 3 (Relegation Playoffs): bottom two teams in the overall 1B standings, Roeselare and Lokeren, take part in a best-of-five playoff. As Roeselare (24pts) finished ahead of Lokeren (19pts), they start with home advantage and receive a three point head start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 16 February 2020 Share Posted 16 February 2020 ... quite strange that having won the fist half of the season OHL then go on the beach for the earlier games,!! Instead of building on what they had achieved, totally switched off. Losing their manager did not help but they were under performing even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza Posted 17 February 2020 Share Posted 17 February 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ... quite strange that having won the fist half of the season OHL then go on the beach for the earlier games,!! Instead of building on what they had achieved, totally switched off. Losing their manager did not help but they were under performing even then. True! That bad spell of games in the beginning of the 2nd period costs us dearly, especially our loses at home against Beerschot (0-3), Virton (0-2) and Westerlo (1-3). We also can't forget we lost 5 points due to questionable decisions by the refs. To end on a positive note, we're getting back to our normal form. I really think we'll be at our best for the finals. I'm actually quite confident that we will win the championship! Edited 17 February 2020 by Bonanza 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelotas Posted 18 February 2020 Share Posted 18 February 2020 (edited) On 17/02/2020 at 00:23, sacreblueits442 said: ... quite strange that having won the fist half of the season OHL then go on the beach for the earlier games,!! Instead of building on what they had achieved, totally switched off. Losing their manager did not help but they were under performing even then. True, it has been the case the three previous seasons as well that the team winning the first half somehow loses momentum or "suffers from decompression" as they refer to it in Belgium. No team has been able to win both halves of the season in the four seasons we've had this format, although Mechelen came really close last season. Makes for some exciting playoff matches though… Edited 18 February 2020 by Pelotas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john ridley Posted 21 February 2020 Share Posted 21 February 2020 Blimey 3.1 down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john ridley Posted 21 February 2020 Share Posted 21 February 2020 Pity lost 5.3 after levelling it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza Posted 21 February 2020 Share Posted 21 February 2020 Very worrisome how we keep giving away goals. We can't do that in the final or we stand no chance at all! Wake up OHL!!!! Highlights: 6-minute version: https://www.proximus-sports.be/nl/voetbal/proximus-league/video/27981/samenvatting-oh-leuven-union-saint-gilloise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizhang Posted 22 February 2020 Share Posted 22 February 2020 On 10/02/2020 at 14:45, Lizhang said: Last few games have spurred a return to form it seems. We grab the opponent by the throat from the start and don't fall back after taking the lead. The fact that our biggest rivals haven't taken advantage of our poor efforts (and appalling referees) over the past two months, makes it once again more likely to top the second period as well, and avoid having to play the finals. Not playing the finals would also give the club more time to prepare for first division. I think there is close to a month between the last game of the competition, and the last game of the finals. Less than two weeks later and we're shit again. And by shit, i mean shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 22 February 2020 Share Posted 22 February 2020 It sounds like you guys are in a rough spot of form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelotas Posted 22 February 2020 Share Posted 22 February 2020 4 hours ago, Lizhang said: Less than two weeks later and we're shit again. And by shit, i mean shit. Let's not be overly pessimistic. I see two clear issues: * Wingbacks Duplus and Tshimanga were shit. First half they got overrun by Nielsen and Union SG got chance after chance. * Euvrard put Sowah on the bench, putting Maertens in his place on the wing with Keita and Van Hyfte in midfield. That didn't work. Starting the second half he put Maertens where he belongs by removing Van Hyfte and putting Sowah back on the wing. Don't know if Sowah got a wake up call but he came in quite well. So in general, I don't share your pessimism, the team went down 1-3 but we scored 4 goals in the second half (two disallowed!). They kept pushing and from minute 50 to 80 they were in control. Even when tied they kept pushing. Henry is our best striker in years! Biggest problem is all these silly goals we keep giving away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizhang Posted 22 February 2020 Share Posted 22 February 2020 4 hours ago, Pelotas said: Let's not be overly pessimistic. I see two clear issues: * Wingbacks Duplus and Tshimanga were shit. First half they got overrun by Nielsen and Union SG got chance after chance. * Euvrard put Sowah on the bench, putting Maertens in his place on the wing with Keita and Van Hyfte in midfield. That didn't work. Starting the second half he put Maertens where he belongs by removing Van Hyfte and putting Sowah back on the wing. Don't know if Sowah got a wake up call but he came in quite well. So in general, I don't share your pessimism, the team went down 1-3 but we scored 4 goals in the second half (two disallowed!). They kept pushing and from minute 50 to 80 they were in control. Even when tied they kept pushing. Henry is our best striker in years! Biggest problem is all these silly goals we keep giving away! 5 give-away goals, at home. I think that's the definition of being shit It's not just the wing/fullbacks, that are indeed terrible. New signing Van den Bergh has still to convince me. Schuermans was sloppy as well yesterday. The entire defense was a joke. Two last goals were completely due to the ineptitude of the centerbacks. Mercier was nowhere (again) and has proven to be very inconsistent. On his day he can make the team overplay any opponent, but when he's having a bad day (which appear just as often as the good ones) then he's the primary reason why we can't keep possession. We have been made a fool of at home games too frequently this year. Already our 4th home loss of the 2nd period alone! Starting to wonder if being able to start with an away game first is actually in our best interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelotas Posted 22 February 2020 Share Posted 22 February 2020 2 hours ago, Lizhang said: 5 give-away goals, at home. I think that's the definition of being shit It's not just the wing/fullbacks, that are indeed terrible. New signing Van den Bergh has still to convince me. Schuermans was sloppy as well yesterday. The entire defense was a joke. Two last goals were completely due to the ineptitude of the centerbacks. Mercier was nowhere (again) and has proven to be very inconsistent. On his day he can make the team overplay any opponent, but when he's having a bad day (which appear just as often as the good ones) then he's the primary reason why we can't keep possession. We have been made a fool of at home games too frequently this year. Already our 4th home loss of the 2nd period alone! Starting to wonder if being able to start with an away game first is actually in our best interest. Myeh I also don't understand why Schuermans is so popular, guaranteed to make at least one big mistake each match. I love to yell "Schuur" each team he makes a mistake . Anyway, my point is that there is a lot of football and character in this squad. Yes they conceded 5 but also scored 5 (2 disallowed), meanwhile they never gave up, even when 1-3 down, having two goals disallowed or going 3-4 down. Some matches things just haven't gone our way... which was the case in the first half of the season. But yes defensively this hasn't really helped confidence as now as well they start making mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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