Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 1 minute ago, Strokes said: I actually think that’s one of their better plans. Foreign investors are buying up properties in London and don’t even bother to rent them out because the return is good enough as it is. It’s not ideal and sure it doesn’t sit comfortably with me that homes could be seized in this way but how else do we stop this shameless profiteering wrecking our way of life? Maybe not sell the houses to outside investors in the first place.
Strokes Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 Just now, Innovindil said: Maybe not sell the houses to outside investors in the first place. Sure but that just stops it getting worse, how do we rectify it?
leicsmac Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 1 hour ago, Innovindil said: Of course there is an argument for it, and if that tickles your pickle then great. But for me, I'd rather be unfair/selfish, I don't expect anyone else to look out for me and I'm not sure why people expect me to look out for them tbh. Because in some cases looking out for everyone is in your own self-interest too, and there are some issues that begin by affecting strangers and then extend to affect everyone? As much as some folks like to think that every man/family is an island, there are times - many times - where mass-interest and self-interest end up overlapping - unless you're simply looking to win the "last one to die" prize. 33 minutes ago, Webbo said: What strawmen? I've told you why I'd vote for him. You've asked why people don't vote for the common good without defining what the common good is. Your posts are meaningless waffle which nobody can answer without you being able to deny what you meant. May I take this one up? I think it's such a nebulous term that everyone will have different definitions, but my own take is ensuring humanity as a species survives for as long as possible. Like I said, other folks might think differently, though. 1
Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Strokes said: Sure but that just stops it getting worse, how do we rectify it? Easy, tell the current outside investors to sell up or rent out and give them a time limit, if they don't, change the locks and if they complain flash them the middle finger. 6 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Because in some cases looking out for everyone is in your own self-interest too, and there are some issues that begin by affecting strangers and then extend to affect everyone? As much as some folks like to think that every man/family is an island, there are times - many times - where mass-interest and self-interest end up overlapping - unless you're simply looking to win the "last one to die" prize. May I take this one up? I think it's such a nebulous term that everyone will have different definitions, but my own take is ensuring humanity as a species survives for as long as possible. Like I said, other folks might think differently, though. Yes yes, hugs, kisses, protect the trees yada yada. Still don't care. Edited 5 February 2018 by Innovindil
Alf Bentley Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 6 minutes ago, leicsmac said: May I take this one up? I think it's such a nebulous term that everyone will have different definitions, but my own take is ensuring humanity as a species survives for as long as possible. Like I said, other folks might think differently, though. You and your hard anthropocentric heart! "ensuring that the planet and all species survive for as long as possible and that all humanity enjoys life to the greatest extent possible"?
leicsmac Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 10 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Easy, tell the current outside investors to sell up or rent out and give them a time limit, if they don't, change the locks and if they complain flash them the middle finger. Yes yes, hugs, kisses, protect the trees yada yada. Still don't care. Your funeral too, mon ami. 6 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: You and your hard anthropocentric heart! "ensuring that the planet and all species survive for as long as possible and that all humanity enjoys life to the greatest extent possible"? That's probably a better definition right there, but at the end of the day it's all about survival. As a species, not a set of individuals.
RumbleFox Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 12 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Easy, tell the current outside investors to sell up or rent out and give them a time limit, if they don't, change the locks and if they complain flash them the middle finger. Yes yes, hugs, kisses, protect the trees yada yada. Still don't care. Do you ever worry you are TOO compassionate? 3
Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 3 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Do you ever worry you are TOO compassionate? The dude spends all day worrying about climate change, plastics, nukes, oils, random hair sprays, cow pats and asparagus. At some point it'll hit him that's he's only got one life, the earth was here long before humans were and will still be here long after we're all dust. In the grand scheme of things, we just aren't that important. It's okay to have fun once in a while man.
leicsmac Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 5 minutes ago, Innovindil said: The dude spends all day worrying about climate change, plastics, nukes, oils, random hair sprays, cow pats and asparagus. At some point it'll hit him that's he's only got one life, the earth was here long before humans were and will still be here long after we're all dust. In the grand scheme of things, we just aren't that important. It's okay to have fun once in a while man. Though you're probably right about the importance thing, I'd like to think that we can be, given the time and effort. Nowt wrong with a little aspiration after all, is there?
RumbleFox Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Innovindil said: The dude spends all day worrying about climate change, plastics, nukes, oils, random hair sprays, cow pats and asparagus. At some point it'll hit him that's he's only got one life, the earth was here long before humans were and will still be here long after we're all dust. In the grand scheme of things, we just aren't that important. It's okay to have fun once in a while man. Haha, well my idea of fun is furiously masturbating and crying at the same time and then trying to beat my best lap time on Time Trial on Mario Circuit 1 on the original Super Mario Kart which, I suppose on reflection, is probably environmentally sustainable so the two things are not always mutually exclusive? Edited 5 February 2018 by RumbleFox 1
Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 3 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Haha, well my idea of fun is furiously masturbating and crying at the same time and then trying to beat my best lap time on Time Trial on Mario Circuit 1 on the original Super Mario Kart which, I suppose on reflection, is probably environmentally sustainable so the two things are not always mutually exclusive? Hold on let me see if I can drag up some feels and do my best leicsmac impression. Masterbation is good for your soul my friend, it helps you get to know yourself as a person. And it's okay to cry, there's no shame in that, you let those feelings out you'll feel much better. As for the playing computer games? You're a bell. Wasting valuable resources in such a way is awful and you should be ashamed of yourself. Instead of wasting your time this way you could be out protesting the treatment of local chickens. 1
RumbleFox Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 1 minute ago, Innovindil said: Hold on let me see if I can drag up some feels and do my best leicsmac impression. Masterbation is good for your soul my friend, it helps you get to know yourself as a person. And it's okay to cry, there's no shame in that, you let those feelings out you'll feel much better. As for the playing computer games? You're a bell. Wasting valuable resources in such a way is awful and you should be ashamed of yourself. Instead of wasting your time this way you could be out protesting the treatment of local chickens. 4/10. X
Guest Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 1 hour ago, Webbo said: I'm surprised you missed it, it's in the Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/28/corbyn-labour-would-buy-8000-properties-for-the-homeless Corbyn: Labour would buy 8,000 properties for homeless people Leader says party would also give local authorities power to seize properties left vacant I'd need to see the detail to say what I think tbh. If you were fair minded, so would you.
Webbo Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 Just now, toddybad said: I'd need to see the detail to say what I think tbh. If you were fair minded, so would you. Funnily enough the Guardian didn't go into too much detail. I think it's against human rights legislation but I'm not certain.
Guest Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 1 minute ago, Webbo said: Funnily enough the Guardian didn't go into too much detail. I think it's against human rights legislation but I'm not certain. It's going to be hard to draw a definitive conclusion based just on that article though isn't it?
Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 23 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: 4/10. X Well now you've really hurt my feelings. 1
Buce Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 13 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Well now you've really hurt my feelings. He probably didn't realise you had any,
Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 7 minutes ago, Buce said: He probably didn't realise you had any, After I bared my inner leicsmac to him too. And people call me heartless.
Rogstanley Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 (edited) I'd bet that for all his sociopathic bravado innovindill wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life. Give him half a chance to do some good in the world and I'm sure he'd take it, but for now he just doesn't know how, bless him. Edited 5 February 2018 by Rogstanley
Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 10 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: I'd bet that for all his sociopathic bravado innovindill wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life. Give him half a chance to do some good in the world and I'm sure he'd take it, but for now he just doesn't know how, bless him. I do indeed like geese tbf.
Buce Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: I'd bet that for all his sociopathic bravado innovindill wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life. Give him half a chance to do some good in the world and I'm sure he'd take it, but for now he just doesn't know how, bless him. I doubt it, tbh. But at least he doesn't deny his moral indifference or try to excuse it with phrases like for the greater good as he puts his cross next to the Nasty Party candidate - let's reserve our contempt for those that do. Edited 5 February 2018 by Buce 1
Guest Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 14 minutes ago, Innovindil said: I do indeed like geese tbf. I wonder whether kids will change you if you have them mate. Suddenly the future of the country and planet matter a lot more. Perhaps you'll become a lefty..... Until you get old and politics no longer affects you beyond the interest rate and you start voting once more for policies that will kick your family hard, of course....
Innovindil Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 4 minutes ago, toddybad said: I wonder whether kids will change you if you have them mate. Suddenly the future of the country and planet matter a lot more. Perhaps you'll become a lefty..... Until you get old and politics no longer affects you beyond the interest rate and you start voting once more for policies that will kick your family hard, of course.... What does any of that have to do with me liking geese? Have a word.
Strokes Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 30 minutes ago, Buce said: I doubt it, tbh. But at least he doesn't deny his moral indifference or try to excuse it with phrases like for the greater good as he puts his cross next to the Nasty Party candidate - let's reserve our contempt for those that do. Putting a cross in a box doesn’t mean you care, it just seems to give you a right to pretend you do. 1
Guest Posted 5 February 2018 Posted 5 February 2018 24 minutes ago, Innovindil said: What does any of that have to do with me liking geese? Have a word. If the planet has no future there'll be no geese.
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