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Adrien Silva - Terms Agreed

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Nick

Nick

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2 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Night all. Try not to let matters entirely outside your control affect your blood pressure too much.

Or kill a close family member - it's your choice.

Gary Eatfood

Gary Eatfood

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2 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Wow! You're from the future! 

Could be. Silva has signed. City beat Chelsea but FT is still in meltdown because Shakey brought Amartey on for Mahrez to see out the game for the last 20 minutes of a hard fought 2-1 victory

SCP4Ever

SCP4Ever

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Sporting's president talked about the Adrien situation, he basically hopes that Leicester can solve this and enroll him, that he doesn't have any official knowledge about it.

He also said that FIFA didn't block the transfer, they blocked the player enrollment in the FA (I think).

 

He also says that, from what he knows, Leicester submitted a lot of documents near the deadline, and apparently the last one was a bit late, and that's the problem.

inckley fox

inckley fox

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11 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Can everyone just calm the fvck down and stop having a pop at Rudkin for FIFA's clerical twattery?

 

Let's just look at what Rudkin's done for Leicester City.

 

As Acadamy Director he developed:

Andy King - integral squad member of League One, Championship and the Premier League winning squads and big part of Champions League campaign.

Jeff Schlupp - integral squad member of Championship and Premier League winning seasons; excellent comedy value - Sold for £12.5m.

Liam Moore - intergral squad member of Championship winning season; sold for £2m.

 

As Director of Football:

Kramaric - signed for £9m, sold for £9m 18 months later.

Schwarzer - signed for free

Robert Huth - signed on loan & helped us survived, signed permanently for £3m & helped us win the Premier League.

Christian Fuchs - FREE.

Shinji Okazaki - £7m.

Ngolo Kante - signed for £5.6m, sold less than a year later for £32m

Benalouane - £6m - was very important last season, plus that tackle at Burton was hilarious.

Inler - £3m - not his fault Kante turned out to be a genius acquisition

Nugent - sold for £4m aged 30.

Wood - sold for £3m.

Amartey - £5m - utility player.

Demarai Gray - £3.7m - still got potential IMO.

Zieler - £2m - sold for £4m

Hernandez - Free - sold for £2m 6 months later.

Mendy - £13m - not his fault he got injured 56 minutes into his debut.

Musa - £16m - no comment.

Kapustka - £7m - no comment.

Islam Slimani - £29m - better player than he gets credit for.

Wilfred Ndidi - £15m - still only 20, a massive prospect for our future.

Tom Lawrence - bought 3 years ago for £1m, mostly been out on loan, sold for £7m

Danny Drinkwater - sold for £35m. (a £34.2m profit)

Harry Maguire - £12m - looking like he's the bargain of the summer; 23 years old and already in the England squad.

Vicente Iborra - £12m - Sevilla's captain. Massively experienced and in his prime.

Kalechi Iheanacho £25m - kept this one under the radar. Massive prospect for the future.

Jakupovich - £2m - experienced cover for Kasper

Drogovic - loan - experienced CB cover, still young for that position.

Adrien Silva - £22m - Sporting's captain. Massively experienced and in his prime. Apparently rejected by the notoriously corrupt FIFA, which means that if true, he'll at least get 4 months to train with the squad and get used to each other.

 

Not all of the above are good business. Some of them are really bad. But it's about time the guy gets some sodding credit for the really excellent deals he's done.

 

 

 

 

I'm not in the 'scapegoat Rudkin' camp, but there are some serious flaws in this argument.

 

Firstly, there have been concerns for many years about our youth development. It's true that we've produced three players who were in-and-out of the squad in the second tier, and then in two cases in-and-out of the side in the PL, before either being sold on for a healthy sum or warming our bench, but relatively speaking it's a modest yield. Hopefully Chilwell will go a little further than the three you've mentioned.

 

You've credited Rudkin with the profits made on people like Nugent, Wood, Lawrence and Drinkwater, when the most impressive achievement in all cases was that we bought them for such small fees in the first place. And a great many of the transfers you've listed really aren't to his credit (as I think you acknowledge yourself). Even some of those which appear to be to his credit are debatable - yes, the fee we paid for Kante was hilariously low, but that was his market worth at the time. The success of the acquisition owed to a scouting network which saw something which nobody else had, not to Rudkin's negotiating skills. And there's no need to debate the release clause.

 

It's true that people question Rudkin for all sorts of (mostly absurd) reasons. They've decided he was blame for sacking Pearson, sacking Ranieri, losing Kante for a pittance, blowing stacks of cash in 2016 and pretty much anything else. But the first things which spring to mind when I look at your list, are (i) how the Pearson-Walsh era targets (more so than the Ranieri-Walsh era) tended to be budget buys which were sold on for huge profits, (ii) that we didn't always get a good deal for players we sold on, and it remains to be seen whether Drinkwater's sale will be a coup for us or a coup for Chelsea (if we don't sign Silva then, regardless of how he gets on over there, it won't have been too clever on our part). (iii) That, since our title win, our business has been largely poor, and it's very hard to use it as a cause to celebrate anyone at the club.

 

And I think it's especially daft to be crying about FIFA's 'clerical tw*ttery'. If we've missed a deadline (which might not be the case, and if it is it might have nothing to do with Rudkin), then we'll only have ourselves to blame. And we'll make ourselves look very daft, not only now but on many more occasions in the future, if we moan about the establishment when we need to figure out what went wrong, and stop it from happening again.

Nick

Nick

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Just now, SCP4Ever said:

Sporting's president talked about the Adrien situation, he basically hopes that Leicester can solve this and enroll him, that he doesn't have any official knowledge about it.

He also said that FIFA didn't block the transfer, they blocked the player enrollment in the FA (I think).

 

He also says that, from what he knows, Leicester submitted a lot of documents near the deadline, and apparently the last one was a bit late, and that's the problem.

It's gonna be a shitstorm trying to get out of this.

 

Cheers for the info bro.

Strokes

Strokes

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Just now, SCP4Ever said:

By a bit late, I mean a few seconds. (his words).

Probably be able to appeal then and blame the fact no fùcker knows how to use fax machines in this century.

Gary Eatfood

Gary Eatfood

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4 minutes ago, Gary Eatfood said:

Could be. Silva has signed. City beat Chelsea but FT is still in meltdown because Shakey brought Amartey on for Mahrez to see out the game for the last 20 minutes of a hard fought 2-1 victory

I'm going now to watch the new series of Seinfeld. See you all when we win the FA Cup in May.

SportingCP1906

SportingCP1906

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6 minutes ago, SCP4Ever said:

Sporting's president talked about the Adrien situation, he basically hopes that Leicester can solve this and enroll him, that he doesn't have any official knowledge about it.

He also said that FIFA didn't block the transfer, they blocked the player enrollment in the FA (I think).

 

He also says that, from what he knows, Leicester submitted a lot of documents near the deadline, and apparently the last one was a bit late, and that's the problem.

Oh, and he said that the transfer is done. Adrien IS a Leicester player, regardless of how his enrollment goes. He also complimented Leicester's behaviour in this process, as well as in previous negotiations (Slimani's and Carrillo's, the second one didn't materialize).

SCP1906

SCP1906

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Sporting President talked about Adrien Silva.

 

He said Sporting put all papers in time, and Leicester started to put papers also in time but last paper was seconds after the time ended.

 

He said he hopes LCFC talk with FIFA and get permission for Adrien Silva.

 

 

SCP4Ever

SCP4Ever

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2 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

It's gonna be a shitstorm trying to get out of this.

 

Cheers for the info bro.

NP

 

1 minute ago, Gary Eatfood said:

If that's the case then I imagine this will be sorted out before the weekend.

 

One can hope. It'll be a very bad precent to screw a player's career over a handful of seconds.

 

1 minute ago, Strokes said:

Probably be able to appeal then and blame the fact no fùcker knows how to use fax machines in this century.

 

Well, things take time. If you have to send 20 pages, it's going to take X time. If the last page arrives just after the deadline, it's unavoidable.

UPinCarolina

UPinCarolina

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I was being somewhat facetious when I posted doom and gloom talk earlier, but fvck me - it looks like I wasn't as wrong as I'd hoped.

 

Nothing can be easy for this club.

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