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On 23/01/2025 at 03:47, Saxondale said:

Bob Dylan is a shitcunt. 
 

He’s a complete and utter fraud. He’s a copycat. He’s a sell out. He’s just a greedy, cynical old git.

 

And please explain how it’s physically possible to have been a touring musician for 80 years or whatever and yet somehow fail to learn to play his instruments competently.

 

Thats not to mention how his singing voice can only reasonably be described as unpleasant. 

 

Total egomaniac and complete con artist.
 

He only gets away with it because people within music critic circles are too scared to criticise him because they’ll be castigated by their peers.

 

It’s music nerd lore that you have to consider him some sort of demigod.

 

He’s not a demigod, he’s a silly old twat.


If he turned up in a pub anonymously, wailing like he does and mangling his guitar, he’d get told to shut the **** up - and rightly so.

 

 

I dont disagree... but ffs...

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Coffee. Can't stand the stuff and the nation's apparent obsession with it, dependence on it and queueing for it. Just spent twenty minutes waiting to be served at a campus café because I wanted a bottle of water. I usually replenish my own everyday but forgot to bring it. The complexity of the damn orders and the time it takes to prepare these extortionate up the arse Espressos, Oat lattes, Cappuccinos, Americanos, Flat Whites, Macchiatos, Mochas, Affogatos, Ristrettos, Cortados...Just keep a ****ing tub of Douwe Egberts in your drawer and get out of my way. My world was a simpler and easier place when the dumb British public were easily satisfied and sated by a cup of Mellow Birds, Gold Blend -  or what was that one that Gareth Hunt used to advertise? - Nescafe?

 

Forget religion, Caffeine is the contemporary opiate of the masses. 

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9 minutes ago, SpacedX said:

Coffee. Can't stand the stuff and the nation's apparent obsession with it, dependence on it and queueing for it. Just spent twenty minutes waiting to be served at a campus café because I wanted a bottle of water. I usually replenish my own everyday but forgot to bring it. The complexity of the damn orders and the time it takes to prepare these extortionate up the arse Espressos, Oat lattes, Cappuccinos, Americanos, Flat Whites, Macchiatos, Mochas, Affogatos, Ristrettos, Cortados...Just keep a ****ing tub of Douwe Egberts in your drawer and get out of my way. My world was a simpler and easier place when the dumb British public were easily satisfied and sated by a cup of Mellow Birds, Gold Blend -  or what was that one that Gareth Hunt used to advertise? - Nescafe?

 

Forget religion, Caffeine is the contemporary opiate of the masses. 

Comes out the tap

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Posted
Just now, Zear0 said:

Comes out the tap

Indeed - and like I said, I replenish my own bottle which I forgot to bring. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, bovril said:

Weird how many Brits see it as some kind of woke lifestyle choice instead of a daily essential. We celebrate choice in all other food and drink, like ale for example, but for some reason coffee choice winds a lot of people up and is seen as some kind of urban liberal elite thing. 

I was of course being facetious - the thread lends itself to such - but I am inclined to agree. Very well put. I guess this is what I am referring to. Why are people prepared to queue up for and pay exorbitant prices to satisfy their dependence on this stodge? But then why are our highstreets flooded with vape shops sourcing cheap product from some dodgy exporter in provincial China? 

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11 minutes ago, SpacedX said:

I was of course being facetious - the thread lends itself to such - but I am inclined to agree. Very well put. I guess this is what I am referring to. Why are people prepared to queue up for and pay exorbitant prices to satisfy their dependence on this stodge? But then why are our highstreets flooded with vape shops sourcing cheap product from some dodgy exporter in provincial China? 

Coffee like alcohol or cigarettes is addictive and people will stick to what they like and know I suppose. Even if I deviate slightly from my coffee routine I feel a bit crap.

 

I also wonder if because in modern life it's so difficult for people to buy property, afford to have kids or even pets, we splurge on food and drink because it helps maintain the illusion that we are an affluent society. 

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15 minutes ago, SpacedX said:

I was of course being facetious - the thread lends itself to such - but I am inclined to agree. Very well put. I guess this is what I am referring to. Why are people prepared to queue up for and pay exorbitant prices to satisfy their dependence on this stodge? But then why are our highstreets flooded with vape shops sourcing cheap product from some dodgy exporter in provincial China? 

Simple economics - supply and demand my friend. 

 

The product is still (just) about cheap enough for the masses to buy regularly.

 

I think you could have that opinion about any product...why do you need that expensive pair of shoes/golf club/car/handbag etc etc. There are of course cheaper alternatives to all those but they aren't as good - same with coffee, nescafe out the tin tastes like bath water compared to a decent cup of coffee.

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46 minutes ago, SpacedX said:

Coffee. Can't stand the stuff and the nation's apparent obsession with it, dependence on it and queueing for it. Just spent twenty minutes waiting to be served at a campus café because I wanted a bottle of water. I usually replenish my own everyday but forgot to bring it. The complexity of the damn orders and the time it takes to prepare these extortionate up the arse Espressos, Oat lattes, Cappuccinos, Americanos, Flat Whites, Macchiatos, Mochas, Affogatos, Ristrettos, Cortados...Just keep a ****ing tub of Douwe Egberts in your drawer and get out of my way. My world was a simpler and easier place when the dumb British public were easily satisfied and sated by a cup of Mellow Birds, Gold Blend -  or what was that one that Gareth Hunt used to advertise? - Nescafe?

 

Forget religion, Caffeine is the contemporary opiate of the masses. 

Liked for the impressive well put forward arguement

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48 minutes ago, bovril said:

I just like a simple espresso but the widening of coffee varieties available is one of the best developments in British society in recent years. A positive effect of immigration. One thing I would say is that the caramel syrupy stuff places like costa and starbucks do is pretty disgusting but I'm willing to accept that if it means more coffee choice in general. Anything but instant coffee. 

 

I still think a coffee and fresh pastry in the morning is among the greatest of life's pleasures. Would find it easier to give up alcohol. Weird how many Brits see it as some kind of woke lifestyle choice instead of a daily essential. We celebrate choice in all other food and drink, like ale for example, but for some reason coffee choice winds a lot of people up and is seen as some kind of urban liberal elite thing. 

So true. 

 

I always find the McDonald's advert taking a swipe at 'fancy coffee' intensely irritating.   Particularly given I know, without having to sully my precious lips, that their coffee will be scolding, watery bilge scum. It feeds in to that liberal elite bollocks, a sneering reverse snobbery. 

 

Fact is, a really good coffee is an entirely different beast from a really sh1t one.  Sh1te includes Costa and Starbucks.  In the same way a supermarket sandwich or a subway is basically a totally different product from something CURATED BY AN ARTISANAL BAKERY THERE I DID IT I ADMITTED I AM PART OF THE WOKERATI LIBERAL ELITE.

 

The fact is, where I can and can afford it, I like to eat and drink nice things as opposed to utter rubbish.  That includes coffee.  

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Coffee is absolutely one of lifes greatest small pleasures. I try not to be too elitist when  it comes to other foods/drink, but a tub of cheap instant coffee from your draw just isn’t the same as a cup of freshly brewed stuff. Almost every other European country has coffee brewers in their kitchen as standard like Brits have kettles. I’m the opposite to SpaceX, in that I don’t really get our obsession with instant coffee in the UK, brewed coffee should be the baseline.

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Freshly ground coffee is fantastic to brew.

 

I am a tea person but I much prefer homemade cha (chai) then your standard steeped tea (black, orange pekoe etc). Takes longer but so much tastier!

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1 hour ago, SpacedX said:

Coffee. Can't stand the stuff and the nation's apparent obsession with it, dependence on it and queueing for it. Just spent twenty minutes waiting to be served at a campus café because I wanted a bottle of water. I usually replenish my own everyday but forgot to bring it. The complexity of the damn orders and the time it takes to prepare these extortionate up the arse Espressos, Oat lattes, Cappuccinos, Americanos, Flat Whites, Macchiatos, Mochas, Affogatos, Ristrettos, Cortados...Just keep a ****ing tub of Douwe Egberts in your drawer and get out of my way. My world was a simpler and easier place when the dumb British public were easily satisfied and sated by a cup of Mellow Birds, Gold Blend -  or what was that one that Gareth Hunt used to advertise? - Nescafe?

 

Forget religion, Caffeine is the contemporary opiate of the masses. 

Always thought buying a coffee out was a fantastic marketing ploy bought from the USA, similar to soft drinks, to get people to waste more  of their money. flogging flavoured hot water that you can easily make at home. But I thought surely the numbers don’t stack up? Coincidentally on Tuesday I was in Amsterdam and I went to one of these hip espresso cafes where they ‘create a community no phones etc etc give me all your money silly people’ that my friend bought. Turns out the numbers do really add up!!! From flogging 8 different types of hot drink and a few pastries over 5 days a week. Mad 

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41 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Coffee is absolutely one of lifes greatest small pleasures. I try not to be too elitist when  it comes to other foods/drink, but a tub of cheap instant coffee from your draw just isn’t the same as a cup of freshly brewed stuff. Almost every other European country has coffee brewers in their kitchen as standard like Brits have kettles. I’m the opposite to SpaceX, in that I don’t really get our obsession with instant coffee in the UK, brewed coffee should be the baseline.

I wasn't advocating instant coffee, just that, from a selfish perspective, the reversion to it would make my life easier when queueing in a café 

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1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

Simple economics - supply and demand my friend. 

 

The product is still (just) about cheap enough for the masses to buy regularly.

 

I think you could have that opinion about any product...why do you need that expensive pair of shoes/golf club/car/handbag etc etc. There are of course cheaper alternatives to all those but they aren't as good - same with coffee, nescafe out the tin tastes like bath water compared to a decent cup of coffee.

I agree.

 

This is as much a comical thread and my post wasn't intended to be taken that seriously. 

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2 minutes ago, SpacedX said:

I agree.

 

This is as much a comical thread and my post wasn't intended to be taken that seriously. 

That said, it's probably the best post in the thread in terms of sheer appropriateness, and your last sentence is spot on.

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I don't drink much coffee, and I've tried appreciating it more and even bought myself a pour-over setup and some ground coffee. But I found the experience tedious, takes too long and too much faff, and the taste was no better than a decent brand of instant. 

Posted
30 minutes ago, The Bear said:

I don't drink much coffee, and I've tried appreciating it more and even bought myself a pour-over setup and some ground coffee. But I found the experience tedious, takes too long and too much faff, and the taste was no better than a decent brand of instant. 

Coffee from Vietnam is amazing, best I’ve ever tasted, but I guess it’s like wine, whiskey etc there’s various levels of quality. I don’t get it with tea, I visited a tea plantation in Sri Lanka, and drank high quality tea, and I didn’t find it pleasant at all.

Posted
1 minute ago, brookfox said:

Cheaper own brand toiler paper is vastly superior to the triple ply aloe vera infused variety.

Such a broad church at the low end.  Flimsy can be mitigated against, the tracing paper grade stuff can whistle.

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12 minutes ago, brookfox said:

Cheaper own brand toiler paper is vastly superior to the triple ply aloe vera infused variety.

Get a bidet style toilet seat. 

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Always think it's ironic that it is the cafe latte that is most identified with the wokerati elite when for me it's maybe the most proletarian coffee choice.

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