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1 hour ago, Soar Fox said:

I prefer the colder months than summer months. 

In the countryside I quite enjoy the English winter. In our cities, which are depressing enough anyway, I hate the cold, rain and darkness. 

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1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

The real cold months are horrific though. Those months where you have to wear a hat and gloves.

Yep October - March is horrendous. You forget how bad those months are now it’s light until 10pm.

Think our weather has a lot to do with our negative psyche. Feels like once brits reach early 30s they become fat, depressed, stuck to a job and a complainer. Compared to warmer nations where most events are a reason for a party 

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

No wonder people say they get bored of it, or say it's not like how it used to be.

 

Tbh I feel the same. These months are supposed to be a couple months break without football. Not to sound like a modern day manager but players play too much now.

 

And Sky Sports promoting "more games" for next season. I couldn't imagine sitting in front of TV watching two or three games back to back. 

I really miss the days of looking forward to a pre-season friendly lol

 

I remember how we used to have one summer with the World cup, the next with no football, the 3rd with The Euros, the next without, Rinse and repeat. "Will the players be match fit for the competition" was actually a thing.

 

This will only make the game more robotic and physicality oriented which is a shame. Players now will have even more of an incentive to play in the "system" because this many games are not only physically but also mentally draining. They will try less and care less.

 

At the risk of being a nostalgia merchant, football before the widespread of the Internet/streaming was not only more enjoyable but also had an element of scarcity. You turn your TV on and appreciate the fact there is a live match on and grow to develop fondness and appreciation for many players. Is a PSV game on? You get to watch Balázs Dzsudzsák, Ibrahim affelay, and Outman Bakkal. Celtic vs Rangers? Nakamura and Samaras, Saša Papac, Boyd, and Naismith. Ligue 1 on?, Brandao, Martin Martin, Boudebouz, Mathieu Bodmer, Taye Taiwo, Benoît Cheyrou, Bakari Koné, Cédric Carrasso, Wendel, Yoann Gourcuff, Jaroslav Plašil, Benoît Trémoulinas... and the list goes on and on with out even mentioning players from La Liga, Calcio, or Barclays PL. The mere memory of players like Juan Arango brings back fond memories. I also remember Fuchs drilling a worldie of a freekick for Buchom in a season that they were relegated in. 

 

As anyone can tell, for me, the late 2000', early 2010's were peak football.

 

Wolves this season was a joy to watch from the few games i caught. Just footballers playing football (that had them fighting for relegation so what do i know).

 

There used to be the Sh*thousery vs beautiful football at the top of the table (when having home advantage was a thing and the roles were reversed when playing away) the rest just played football. Either way, i was entertained. But now, it's just lifeless for the most part. Or maybe we just grew older. Maybe in 5-10 years people will talk about players like Payet, Andy Carroll, Jonjo and Joe Allen the same way.

 

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On 24/06/2025 at 05:11, Nalis said:

Most public inquiries are a waste of taxpayer money.

Yes, particularly when that money could be quickly used to solve most of the already known issues which the enquiry is supposed to identify.

Posted
On 23/06/2025 at 22:11, Nalis said:

Most public inquiries are a waste of taxpayer money.

They're not a waste of money per se. They're a waste of money when the findings are ignored or not acted on.

 

Eg. Leverson, blood scandals, post office scandal, Grenfell and I'm sure there's many others.

 

Our lives and society would be immeasurably better if the findings and recommendations were put in place. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

They're not a waste of money per se. They're a waste of money when the findings are ignored or not acted on.

 

Eg. Leverson, blood scandals, post office scandal, Grenfell and I'm sure there's many others.

 

Our lives and society would be immeasurably better if the findings and recommendations were put in place. 

Grenfell has totally changed the Building Control regulatory framework. It has made more changes to construction than anything we have seen since Ronan Point.

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51 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Fair point yet there's thousands of flats and buildings still with unsafe cladding and thousands of people stuck in homes that they can't sell  due to leaseholders completely ignoring the issue.

 

There are many that are stuck, thats true. This has nothing to do with the inquiry from Grenfell which has been effective.

 

The issue is much more nuanced than you suggest and the effectiveness of the Grenfell Report has changed construction completely. Much of the current issues with existing flats and cladding are related to insurance companies setting their own rules.

 

The biggest issue with the Grenfell report was that it was unable to pin down any one failing within the industry. This means the public is not going to see someone in court for manslaughter as the problems with that particular building project were wide ranging. The failures occurred at all levels including with the regulations being followed.

 

The below image was produced by one of the KC's involved in the enquiry. The story behind 'Carl Stokes' is incredible to read.

 

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4 hours ago, kenny said:

Grenfell has totally changed the Building Control regulatory framework. It has made more changes to construction than anything we have seen since Ronan Point.

 

4 hours ago, kenny said:

There are many that are stuck, thats true. This has nothing to do with the inquiry from Grenfell which has been effective.

 

The issue is much more nuanced than you suggest and the effectiveness of the Grenfell Report has changed construction completely. Much of the current issues with existing flats and cladding are related to insurance companies setting their own rules.

 

The biggest issue with the Grenfell report was that it was unable to pin down any one failing within the industry. This means the public is not going to see someone in court for manslaughter as the problems with that particular building project were wide ranging. The failures occurred at all levels including with the regulations being followed.

 

The below image was produced by one of the KC's involved in the enquiry. The story behind 'Carl Stokes' is incredible to read.

 

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I've seen that image before and my first thought was that it was endemic of the industry and not remotely surprising.

 

Like you say though, that no-one is in jail has probably clouded the public perception that nothing has changed, which couldn't be further from the truth. The impacts on the industry have been massively wide ranging and we're only beginning to feel them.

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2 hours ago, ajthefox said:

 

I've seen that image before and my first thought was that it was endemic of the industry and not remotely surprising.

 

Like you say though, that no-one is in jail has probably clouded the public perception that nothing has changed, which couldn't be further from the truth. The impacts on the industry have been massively wide ranging and we're only beginning to feel them.

Have you read Show me the bodies yet? Incredible read.

Posted
22 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Politicians going on about how an increase in defence spending is a good thing.

 

Surely the ideal is less.

A push to reinforce the armed forces is like any infrastructure investment, a creator of jobs and a creator of growth, and against the current climate, warranted or not, it’s a vote winner. Yes, ideally we put it in the bin and invest elsewhere, but investment is investment.  

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11 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

A push to reinforce the armed forces is like any infrastructure investment, a creator of jobs and a creator of growth, and against the current climate, warranted or not, it’s a vote winner. Yes, ideally we put it in the bin and invest elsewhere, but investment is investment.  

A push to reinforce the NHS, Police and Council services would be better.

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31 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

A push to reinforce the NHS, Police and Council services would be better.

Yes for the average joe, but not convinced it would create as much growth, and in this climate I am unsure any Government could survive not bolstering the military.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yes for the average joe, but not convinced it would create as much growth, and in this climate I am unsure any Government could survive not bolstering the military.

UK a long way off from Trump’s 5% of GDP demand. 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

UK a long way off from Trump’s 5% of GDP demand. 

Direction of travel is important also I assume, and I do not agree with it for 1 second, but it seems obvious this would occur. (Its always important to try and recognise all points of view in my opinion, even when they are abhorrent)

Would far rather all resources were put towards ensuring we do everything we can to head of the climate crisis, here and abroad, and maximise the standard of living everywhere we can.

But politics has become a polarising popularist sh*t show, where facts and greater good are an inconvenience, I see little hope in much that we witnessing.

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1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Direction of travel is important also I assume, and I do not agree with it for 1 second, but it seems obvious this would occur. (Its always important to try and recognise all points of view in my opinion, even when they are abhorrent)

Would far rather all resources were put towards ensuring we do everything we can to head of the climate crisis, here and abroad, and maximise the standard of living everywhere we can.

But politics has become a polarising popularist sh*t show, where facts and greater good are an inconvenience, I see little hope in much that we witnessing.

It's very difficult to not fall into apathetic cynicism about it all, yes.

 

But it's also necessary. Do what we can, until we cannot. 

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