ZeGuy Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 Kasper 5.5 Set pieces Fuchs 4.5 Past it. Morgan 6 Maguire 6 Simpson 5 Gave away some dangerous free kicks. Hoofing it like there is no tomorrow. Gray 4 Very weak performance and behavior of a diva. Ndidi 7 Had a good game. Interceptions, tackles, he was everywhere. My MOTM. Iborra 7 As always calm and composed. His association with Ndidi is starting to click. Mahrez 3 Worst player on the pitch. Worst performance of the season. Missing simple passes, searching for the Hollywood goal and not playing his team mates in. Left me fuming yesterday. Albrighton 6 Happy for his goal. Generous in the effort but most of his crosses went to the opponents. Vardy 6 Isolated but lively when he had the ball. Should have had an assist if Gray followed instead of sulking. Subs: Chillwell 5 Needs to grow a football brain. Slim N/A Shit anyway. Opposition 3.5 Toilet. We should have won. Puel 5.5 Very late subs. I believe he's on the right path and the defeat yesterday is more due to the two divas than his set-up or the way we played. It is obvious (although not for all) that it will take time to go from hoofball to football and we're bound to have mixed results before things start to click. Mourinho or Guardiola needed one season to get their team work like they wanted, people here are already dismissing Puel after four games. Get a fcking grip.
AKCJ Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 9 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: Kasper 5.5 Set pieces Fuchs 4.5 Past it. Morgan 6 Maguire 6 Simpson 5 Gave away some dangerous free kicks. Hoofing it like there is no tomorrow. Gray 4 Very weak performance and behavior of a diva. Ndidi 7 Had a good game. Interceptions, tackles, he was everywhere. My MOTM. Iborra 7 As always calm and composed. His association with Ndidi is starting to click. Mahrez 3 Worst player on the pitch. Worst performance of the season. Missing simple passes, searching for the Hollywood goal and not playing his team mates in. Left me fuming yesterday. Albrighton 6 Happy for his goal. Generous in the effort but most of his crosses went to the opponents. Vardy 6 Isolated but lively when he had the ball. Should have had an assist if Gray followed instead of sulking. Subs: Chillwell 5 Needs to grow a football brain. Slim N/A Shit anyway. Opposition 3.5 Toilet. We should have won. Puel 5.5 Very late subs. I believe he's on the right path and the defeat yesterday is more due to the two divas than his set-up or the way we played. It is obvious (although not for all) that it will take time to go from hoofball to football and we're bound to have mixed results before things start to click. Mourinho or Guardiola need one season to get their team work like they wanted, people here are already dismissing Puel after four games. Get a fcking grip. Mahrez 3 Put in a great shift and was a final ball away from being the match winner. He was our best player in the first half. Anything good about us generally came through him.
ZeGuy Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 9 hours ago, AKCJ said: Mahrez 3 Put in a great shift and was a final ball away from being the match winner. He was our best player in the first half. Anything good about us generally came through him. His selfishness has been costly yesterday and I'm not known as someone who's constantly having a go at him. He systematically ruined the good things he began. Beautiful control just to lose the ball right after that. Eliminating wo players then trying the 25 yards screamer instead of playing in Vardy or Gray. I just can't count how many times he just made the wrong decision, some of them were clear cut goal chances. With a second goal, WHU would never have come back. They were there for the taking and we let them back. There is nothing wrong with being sometimes selfish, every gifted player does that, but the team goes first. Yesterday he only played for himself, not for the team.
Kitchandro Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 34 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Mahrez 3 Put in a great shift and was a final ball away from being the match winner. He was our best player in the first half. Anything good about us generally came through him. The thing about that is, either you play the final ball and become the match winner, or don't and it amounts to nothing. There are no prizes for looking good on the ball in football. End product is what matters.
Fox92 Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 Simpson defended superbly. Especially considering he was back post one on one v Carroll most of the time. It's the left full back that needs improving.
inckley fox Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 He was greedy, unintelligent on the ball and unwilling to participate in any physical aspect of the game. He kick-started many of their attacks by being so totally wasteful. Yes, he has a nice first touch and looks like he might be dangerous, but the end product amounts to him being ineffective. Detrimental, in fact. He was like a hybrid of David Oldfield and Ryan Smith, with the worst attributes of both and none of the redeeming features. I'm willing to overlook his visual disinterest but that performance, and that degree of application, was nowhere near top flight standard. The closer you watched him, and what actually came from his possession, the worse he looked. I'm baffled that anyone raised eyebrows at his withdrawal, even if it was for a more defensive option. He wasn't missed, even if Chilwell himself brought little to the table. In years to come there may be a debate as to what was the bigger factor in our demise: Kante leaving or Mahrez staying. It's a shame because it's his lack of intelligence off the pitch, as well as on it, which has been the difference between him being a great player, and a dodgy player who once had a great season. If he's to turn that round, then it might be best for him to begin the process in the under-23s.
ZeGuy Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 6 minutes ago, inckley fox said: He was greedy, unintelligent on the ball and unwilling to participate in any physical aspect of the game. He kick-started many of their attacks by being so totally wasteful. Yes, he has a nice first touch and looks like he might be dangerous, but the end product amounts to him being ineffective. Detrimental, in fact. He was like a hybrid of David Oldfield and Ryan Smith, with the worst attributes of both and none of the redeeming features. I'm willing to overlook his visual disinterest but that performance, and that degree of application, was nowhere near top flight standard. The closer you watched him, and what actually came from his possession, the worse he looked. I'm baffled that anyone raised eyebrows at his withdrawal, even if it was for a more defensive option. He wasn't missed, even if Chilwell himself brought little to the table. In years to come there may be a debate as to what was the bigger factor in our demise: Kante leaving or Mahrez staying. It's a shame because it's his lack of intelligence off the pitch, as well as on it, which has been the difference between him being a great player, and a dodgy player who once had a great season. If he's to turn that round, then it might be best for him to begin the process in the under-23s. Talk about overstatement.
inckley fox Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 3 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Simpson defended superbly. Especially considering he was back post one on one v Carroll most of the time. It's the left full back that needs improving. Definitely. Thought Simpson was our man-of-the-match, personally. Also quite impressed with Morgan-Maguire, and Ndidi-Iborra. Fuchs and the attacking-mids were poor and Puel found it hard to change the game because, ideally, you don't switch your defence around mid-game, and he had limited options in attacking midfield. Watching Gray's and Mahrez's performances, I think there's an argument for returning to 4-4-1-1 with Okazaki, leaving Marc out wide, and looking at other options for the opposite flank. Musa? Chilwell? God knows. Or, better still, go 3-5-2 and quit trying to find two wingers who can provide a threat. The main reason we've always given for overlooking 3-5-2 is that you can't accommodate Mahrez and Gray, but after yesterday I don't necessarily see that as a problem.
inckley fox Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 4 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: Talk about overstatement. Don't be silly. The loss of Kante has been huge. But the poor form of Mahrez equally so. Mahrez was player-of-the-year eighteen months ago. He looks below standard for a lower-end EPL side now. Unless you have a totally different version of events.
Vacamion Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 18 minutes ago, inckley fox said: He was like a hybrid of David Oldfield and Ryan Smith, with the worst attributes of both and none of the redeeming features. Bravo for the niche reference.
Guest Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 21 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Simpson defended superbly. Especially considering he was back post one on one v Carroll most of the time. It's the left full back that needs improving. I thought Simpson was better than most yesterday but he certainly wasn't superb. He actually has a problem with his defensive positioning which is often overcome by his experience of such. However I do agree that Fuchs tenure must come to an end. I actually find it quite amazing that this season we have defended reasonably well as a group considering our LB has been poor, our RB isn't great, Wes is getting old, Maguire occasionally shows his inexperience, Kasper can't control his box, come out for crosses or save a FK, the midfield has only 2 players (and one of them is AK ocassionally) and Gray and Mahrez have little idea of how to defend. It seems that when each of these players show there deficiencies one of the others steps up and helps them out. something about the system, training or players must be pretty good.
ZeGuy Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 13 minutes ago, inckley fox said: Don't be silly. The loss of Kante has been huge. But the poor form of Mahrez equally so. Mahrez was player-of-the-year eighteen months ago. He looks below standard for a lower-end EPL side now. Unless you have a totally different version of events. Oh the irony. To put our demise on Mahrez staying is not only ridiculous but also unfair. Our nose dive performance wise last season was a bit more complex and can't be reduced to one player going or staying. Obviously Kanté going was a huge blow and Mahrez underperforming didn't help, but there are some other reasons like, for example, a calamitous transfer window, a manager tinkering at every game and then getting fired, the whole team having the biggest hang-over of their life and performing accordingly, the injuries just to name a few. I know it's easier to put the blame on one player but it doesn't work like that in the real world. Really. And here's another one hell of an overstatement.
inckley fox Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 1 minute ago, ZeGuy said: Oh the irony. To put our demise on Mahrez staying is not only ridiculous but also unfair. Our nose dive performance wise last season was a bit more complex and can't be reduced to one player going or staying. Obviously Kanté going was a huge blow, but there are some other reasons like, for example, a calamitous transfer window, a manager tinkering at every game and then getting fired, the whole team having the biggest hang-over of their life and performing accordingly, the injuries, just to name a few. I know it's easier to put the blame on one player but it doesn't work like in the real world. Really. And here's another one hell of an overstatement. I didn't 'put our demise on Mahrez'. Clearly not. Read back over what you've just quoted. I said his poor form has had a huge effect, just as the loss of Kante has. Lots of other factors have been apparent, but those are among the greatest. You seem to be agreeing with this, despite the incredulity. As for saying it's 'one hell of an overstatement' for me to say 'he looks below standard for a lower-end EPL side', well in another thread - just a short while ago - you 'liked' a post which stated that he should be dropped because he has an attitude problem and isn't playing well enough. So you agreed with me half an hour ago but have since changed your mind. Unless you think it's possible to perform poorly to the extent that you should be dropped and yet, at the same time, be performing at a comparable or superior standard to everyone else. Or are you just trying to argue?
kingfox Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 Schmeichel(6) - Dodgy kicking again at times but didn't have much to do in terms of saves. Simpson(7) - Defended the back post superbly, cut out two likely goals in the first half. Morgan(7) - Fairly solid, can't recall much getting past him. Maguire(7) - Struggled in recent weeks but delivered a decent performance last night, read the game well. Fuchs(6) - Is starting to lose his step but didn't really make any mistakes. Albrighton(6) - Got the goal but apart from that I thought he was average, so one dimensional and slow. Ndidi(7) - Gave away a few needless free kicks, but he got stuck in well enough, performed well first half. Iborra(8) - A class above, especially in the first half where he ran the game, few dodgy passes second half but overall MOTM. Gray(5) - Didn't see enough of the ball but when he did he was wasteful. Mahrez(4) - Greedy, wasteful in the final third, quite frankly he's starting to really piss me off again. Vardy(5) - Some good runs down the channel in first half, isolated in second and did fvck all after I'm a Celeb came on at 9pm, coincidence...I think not.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 25 November 2017 Posted 25 November 2017 Kasper 4.5 Simpson - 7 Maguire - 5 Wes - 6 Fuchs - 4.5 Albrighton - 6 Wilf - 6.5 Iborra - 7.5 Mahrez - 4.5 Gray - 5 Vardy 5.5
drofmor55 Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 Kasper 6 One brilliant save ...but 5-6 inches short of being able to dominate his box.. Simpson 7 V.good defensively ...not comfortable with the ball at his feet..he is what he is Maguire 6 Good enough.. was'nt really tested Morgan 6 As above Fuchs 6 Didnt do anything wrong ..still looks comfortable on the ball..but doesnt pose any sort of threat going forward with crosses anymore Albrighton 7 Gives 100 per cent every game ..wonder if he could convert to a full back like Ashley Young has Mahrez 6 Always gives the defence an outball when they are under pressure.. honestly believe he overdoes it when he has the ball because he doesnt feel its worth passing to some of his less talented colleagues ..sadly he might have a point Iborra 6 Would like to see him play a bit higher up the pitch feeding Vardy..not just taking short passes from the back Gray 5 Anonymous..frustrating player .. will be interesting to see if Puel can get the best out of him.. Ndidi 7 Another who gives 100 per cent..doesnt let the opposition settle Vardy 6 Isolated much of the time but still manages an assist... but why was he our central defender at the corner ..sort it out Claude ffs Chilwell 6 helped keep Ayew quiet..did what he was brought on to do Slimani 6 not on long enough to do much,but put himself about Puel 6 Must have learnt a lot in the short time he has had...2nd half of the season could be interesting Ref 8 Had a good game...dont think the Albrighton shout was a penalty in all honesty..close but not enough to give one West Ham 5 if they do survive relegation it will a close run thing
Dickov22 Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 Kasper 5 At fault for the goal Simpson 8 His back post positioning is superb. Dealt with Carroll well Morgan 6 Fine Maguire 7 Better than the last few games Fuchs 6 Did fine but I think Chilwell is a better option now Albrighton 6 Endeavor and work rate as always but lacks real quality Iborra 8 MOTM. So so cool on the ball. Classy Ndidi 7 Some important interceptions. Good game from him Mahrez 5 Too careless in possession Gray 5 As above Vardy 6 Extra point for the goal. Totally isolated thanks to Puel’s ultra negative tactics Vardy is my favourite ever Leicester player but he’s lost half a yard of pace this season. I’ve said it on Twitter and got pelters, but he has. Still quick, but not as explosive as he was and that was evident again on a couple of occasions Friday. Their goal is surely the kind of cross you want your goalie to deal with. Gray and Mahrez were frustrating but talented wingers have games like that occasionally. Both kept going even though it wasn’t going well for them. The criticism of them on here is over the top in my opinion. Our problem is we keep conceding goals close to half time: Three games on the spin.
Kinowe Soorie Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 Simpson my motm. I like Iborra and Ndidi, but they both give the ball away too cheaply.
hackenbacker Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 17 hours ago, Fox92 said: Simpson defended superbly. Especially considering he was back post one on one v Carroll most of the time. It's the left full back that needs improving. agree made some wonderful interceptions including that back header that took the ball of Carol's feet BUT the man can't pass to save his life and the number of times he gave the ball away. So what do we have ..... a great defender who can't pass or a man who gives the ball away too much but can defend
Redouane Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 22 hours ago, ZeGuy said: His selfishness has been costly yesterday and I'm not known as someone who's constantly having a go at him. He systematically ruined the good things he began. Beautiful control just to lose the ball right after that. Eliminating wo players then trying the 25 yards screamer instead of playing in Vardy or Gray. I just can't count how many times he just made the wrong decision, some of them were clear cut goal chances. With a second goal, WHU would never have come back. They were there for the taking and we let them back. There is nothing wrong with being sometimes selfish, every gifted player does that, but the team goes first. Yesterday he only played for himself, not for the team. I really didn't see an improvement in the second half. In fact, were there any plays being made after his subbing off?
bald reynard Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 Schmeichel - 5.5 - Generally 6, but for those set pieces ! Simpson - 7.5 - City MotM and best defender by a long way Morgan - 5 - Tries hard, but past it for fast Premier football Maguire - 5.5 - Better than recent, but still sometimes caught out by pace Fuchs - 5 - As for Morgan Gray - 5.5 - Talented, but lazy Ndidi - 6 - Works hard, but SO clumsy Iborra - 6 - Classy, but too laid back to be effective (at least in this match) Albrighton - 6.5 - Works so hard and was dominant in the first 20 mins, but he can't do it for 90 mins Mahrez - 6 - Generally as for Gray, but like Albrighton he did at least show a bit of class in the first 20 mins Vardy - 6.5 - As for Albrighton Chilwell - 6 - A much better bet than Fuchs at the moment, but still not really an orthodox left back Slimani - 4 - A total waste of space, squad number and money ! Puel - 5.5 - Got the bench totally wrong for an away game (Amartey should have been there instead of one of the attacking players - probably Slimani) and made a cock up not bringing Okazaki on (for Gray or Mahrez - at least 20 mins earlier).
Shanghai Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 On 25/11/2017 at 20:50, ZeGuy said: Kasper 5.5 Set pieces Fuchs 4.5 Past it. Morgan 6 Maguire 6 Simpson 5 Gave away some dangerous free kicks. Hoofing it like there is no tomorrow. Gray 4 Very weak performance and behavior of a diva. Ndidi 7 Had a good game. Interceptions, tackles, he was everywhere. My MOTM. Iborra 7 As always calm and composed. His association with Ndidi is starting to click. Mahrez 3 Worst player on the pitch. Worst performance of the season. Missing simple passes, searching for the Hollywood goal and not playing his team mates in. Left me fuming yesterday. Albrighton 6 Happy for his goal. Generous in the effort but most of his crosses went to the opponents. Vardy 6 Isolated but lively when he had the ball. Should have had an assist if Gray followed instead of sulking. Subs: Chillwell 5 Needs to grow a football brain. Slim N/A Shit anyway. Opposition 3.5 Toilet. We should have won. Puel 5.5 Very late subs. I believe he's on the right path and the defeat yesterday is more due to the two divas than his set-up or the way we played. It is obvious (although not for all) that it will take time to go from hoofball to football and we're bound to have mixed results before things start to click. Mourinho or Guardiola needed one season to get their team work like they wanted, people here are already dismissing Puel after four games. Get a fcking grip. We didnt watch the same game haha how many cups did you have hhh
Shanghai Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 On 25/11/2017 at 21:08, ZeGuy said: His selfishness has been costly yesterday and I'm not known as someone who's constantly having a go at him. He systematically ruined the good things he began. Beautiful control just to lose the ball right after that. Eliminating wo players then trying the 25 yards screamer instead of playing in Vardy or Gray. I just can't count how many times he just made the wrong decision, some of them were clear cut goal chances. With a second goal, WHU would never have come back. They were there for the taking and we let them back. There is nothing wrong with being sometimes selfish, every gifted player does that, but the team goes first. Yesterday he only played for himself, not for the team. He wasn’t he get the ball to vardy when gray was complaining he didn’t lose it ! People are awesome lot of hates I feel around him let him go ! He was an artist ( art for artist actually not 2 players but was 4 players around him )
ZeGuy Posted 26 November 2017 Posted 26 November 2017 16 minutes ago, Shanghai said: He wasn’t he get the ball to vardy when gray was complaining he didn’t lose it ! People are awesome lot of hates I feel around him let him go ! He was an artist ( art for artist actually not 2 players but was 4 players around him ) Ain't you the "chinese" guy?
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