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Kasper 4 He’s cost us the game. No need to come for that 

 

Simpson 6 Defended well, atrocious going forward but he’s 31; isn’t going to ever be the attacking full back Puel wants him to be 

 

Maguire 8 Superb 

 

Morgan 8 See above 

 

Chilwell 6 Thought he defended well against Willian and makes himself available time and time again down the left. Final ball let him down 

 

Albrighton 9 MOTM Immense tonight

 

Iborra 7 Really good game, neat passing, got forward. Played well 

 

Ndidi 7 Turning into a top player

 

Mahrez 6 Made our goal but was a little quiet by his standards. Actually defended well a couple of times tonight which he’s often criticised for not doing 

 

Iheanacho 3 Lazy, didn’t put himself about enough. Not enough energy and zip to his game. Badly at fault for their goal 

 

Vardy 7 His usual pest self and better once Okazaki came on

 

Subs 

 

Okazaki 6 Although he personally didn’t do loads, we looked much better once he came on. Energy, enthusiasm and link up play - all things Iheanacho didn’t have 

 

Silva 7 Played really well. Always wanted the ball. Some nice passes

 

Gray n/a Not on long enough 

 

Diabate 7 Looked lively. Excited by the prospect of him next season. 

 

Overall I thought we were unlucky to lose that one. 

 

 

 

 

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Albrighton was superb. Will still be behind lingard and co for England mind... 

 

Rest 7s except schmeichel - 5, shocking error.

 

Ref gets a one since that seemed to be as far as he could count.

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I honestly thought Simpson and Chilwell had decent games, yes they lack that finial decision making at times but can’t fault their lack of effort, regardless if they are entirely comfortable with what’s being asked of them,

 

Dont think anyone had a really bad game at all mostly 6/7s just that little bit of class/misjudgement was all that swung the game in Chelsea’s favour.

 

We will play a lot worse than tonight and sneak a 1-0 win.

 

Onwards and upwards.

their seems to be a very decent team underneath the little mistakes, hopefully some decisions will be ironed out by next season 

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5 hours ago, FIF said:

Chilwell played well - what match were you watching? He was marking Willian and attacking down the wing and then having to get back to defend again.

 

You want good young players, you get them and then you try to destroy them.

 

Sure he'll make some errors and it was certain that Willian would beat him some times. That's what good players do.

 

Attackers can do nothing for a whole game apart from one good action and they get lauded, a defender (whoever not necessarily Chilwell) can have a very good game, get beaten once and they are slaughtered. I don't think I watch the same "football" as some of you.

I thought Chilwell's distribution, positioning and success in 50-50s were all pretty poor. We played against a 3-4-3 and our full backs weren't sure whether they were picking up the wing-backs or the wide attacker, which in theory should have been no more tricky than playing against a standard 4-5-1 with over-lapping full-backs. We should have been better prepared for it than we were, which goes for Simpson-Mahrez on the right, too. No side employing a 3-4-3 should enjoy that amount of space on the flanks.

 

None of this means I'm trying to destroy Chilwell. He's got plenty of potential but is too often a weak link, and I think both of our full backs were weak links today. Simpson in the attacking sense, Chilwell with respect to both his attacking and defensive functions. I want him to do well as much as you do, but he will either improve quickly or, rightly, be subject to an upgrade in the summer.

 

As for 'watching the same football' as some of us - I was very, very impressed by your post the other day stressing that Mahrez wasn't as good as Lamela, Eriksen or Willian, inasmuch as I though it was a fine piece of wind-up-merchantry for someone on a Leicester forum. In your defence, Mahrez was poor today and his display lent weight to the argument that we should start to build without him, rather than around him. But if you think Mahrez isn't a patch on Lamela then I'm happy to be watching a different football to you.

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Schmeichel Another good Game, except the howler 

Simpson kept hazard quiet, overlapped brilliantly just lacked final ball, solid defender

Chilwell 6 Good Defensive work, lacks confidence going forward

Morgan 7 great game solid as a rock and gave a few good nudges

Maguire early card stopped him from dominating

Mahrez 7 some great moments probably spoiled by having him every week

Iborra all class, id have him start every week

Ndidi 6 good game, but Ngolo shows what we lack

Albrighton 8 He really stands up in big games (MOTM)

Vardy 6 Tried but a quiet night for him

iheanacho 5 struggles to get into the game...also lacks a bit of chase

 

Diabate 5 meh tried

Okazaki 7 had an impact

Silva 5 meh

Gray 5 meh

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we gave away two soft, soft goals. again puels selections let us down. i have said all along simpson is useless offers little or nothing in attack. iheanacho is one of the worst preimer league players i have seen he has no ball control at all and his passing is shit he cost us the 1st goal when we should have been on the attack.and add to that he is lazy. and chilwell is not up to 1st grade standard in defense.

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3 hours ago, bpfox said:

we gave away two soft, soft goals. again puels selections let us down. i have said all along simpson is useless offers little or nothing in attack. iheanacho is one of the worst preimer league players i have seen he has no ball control at all and his passing is shit he cost us the 1st goal when we should have been on the attack.and add to that he is lazy. and chilwell is not up to 1st grade standard in defense.

We need more people like you inside the stadium roaring the boys on with your unwavering support.

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Albrighton, Maguire 8

Morgan, Vardy, Okazaki, Iborra 7

Ndidi, Mahrez, Simpson 6

Kasper, Chilwell 5

Iheanacho 4

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How anyone can lay the blame for their first goal solely at Kelechi's door (which seems is what is happening in this thread), needs to rewatch the goal. His pass is awful, yes, but it finds Mahrez. Mahrez then spins, has the time to make a pass, but runs into a corridor where he's never going to keep the ball. Both were at fault. Giving Mahrez  6/7 and Iheanacho a 3/4 is very unfair given neither really did much.

 

But hey, this place has to have a whipping boy.

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10 hours ago, Usafox1 said:

I’ve noticed that English players tend to get a better rating here than they deserve and I can understand that. 

Vardy  scored off a lose ball and ran a lot but was absolutely pants otherwise. Albighton was decent but motm is a bit too generous. 

 

Nobody, absolutely nobody had better games than Ndidi and Iborra. 

I'm assuming by your user name you are in the US, so watched it on TV, you do get a different perspective on TV than when at the stadium and Albrighton was immense last night. Not showy or highlights reel amazing but just everywhere, was always available going forwards and always defending and helping out the midfield. Battled for everything and had some superb bits of skill on the ball to take defenders out the game. Not because he was English but because he works his bollocks off to make the most out of the ability he has. Which is why Iheanacho frustrates, he is clearly talented but looks lazy and disinterested, especially when he  should be fired up having played so well against West Brom and got a start in a massive game for us. He had a simple ball to play in Mahrez and instead played it behind him and into trouble, everyone has bombed forward for the counter and we get caught with a sucker punch. Not all Nacho's fault but coupled with a few times when he just stopped instead of pressuring the defender and just not looking interested in working his bollocks off. Again this is something that you see differently on TV compared to at the ground.

 

Ndidi and Iborra played well, I'd give them 7s along with Maguire, Albrighton 8, Vardy, Mahrez, Morgan 6.5 (downgraded to 6) Kasper, Simpson and Chilwell 6, they were not as bad as many on here are making out, but they made mistakes, Nacho 5, probably 6 for the subs and Puel.

 

It was a weird game and like many at home recently, we looked very comfortable for large parts of the game, but an inability to play a mistake free game and a lack of cutting edge/intensity up front cost us.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Beechey said:

How anyone can lay the blame for their first goal solely at Kelechi's door (which seems is what is happening in this thread), needs to rewatch the goal. His pass is awful, yes, but it finds Mahrez. Mahrez then spins, has the time to make a pass, but runs into a corridor where he's never going to keep the ball. Both were at fault. Giving Mahrez  6/7 and Iheanacho a 3/4 is very unfair given neither really did much.

 

But hey, this place has to have a whipping boy.

You can't blame attacking players for a goal when the ball is lost in the opponent's box. That's ridiculous.

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36 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

You can't blame attacking players for a goal when the ball is lost in the opponent's box. That's ridiculous.

I never solely blamed any player, I just pointed out that more than Iheanacho were at fault. Equally, Simpson and Morgan should have had Morata covered, but they didn't. Chilwell and Ndidi should have been able to deal with Willian.

 

Blaming Iheanacho because his pass went slightly behind Mahrez is madness.

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Just now, Beechey said:

I never solely blamed any player, I just pointed out that more than Iheanacho were at fault. Equally, Simpson and Morgan should have had Morata covered, but they didn't. Chilwell and Ndidi should have been able to deal with Willian.

 

Blaming Iheanacho because his pass went slightly behind Mahrez is madness.

Can't rep you.

 

I agree with you.

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1 minute ago, ZeGuy said:

Can't rep you.

 

I agree with you.

I actually just rewatched the goal, and it's Simpson that runs from Morata's right side to a narrower position gives him the space for the through ball. I can't work out why he starts to run narrower though.

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17 minutes ago, Beechey said:

I actually just rewatched the goal, and it's Simpson that runs from Morata's right side to a narrower position gives him the space for the through ball. I can't work out why he starts to run narrower though.

Both him and Morgan had a brain fart. Willian's pass was great though.

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11 hours ago, inckley fox said:

None of this means I'm trying to destroy Chilwell. He's got plenty of potential but is too often a weak link, and I think both of our full backs were weak links today. Simpson in the attacking sense, Chilwell with respect to both his attacking and defensive functions. I want him to do well as much as you do, but he will either improve quickly or, rightly, be subject to an upgrade in the summer.

This pretty much nails it imo. Though strong when defending, Simpson is frankly poor going forward and can neither beat a man nor deliver a quality cross. Chilwell regularly demonstrates his weakness in defence - and is also unable to cross a ball more than 10% of times - no matter how well he’s set up.

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9 hours ago, bpfox said:

we gave away two soft, soft goals. again puels selections let us down. i have said all along simpson is useless offers little or nothing in attack. iheanacho is one of the worst preimer league players i have seen he has no ball control at all and his passing is shit he cost us the 1st goal when we should have been on the attack.and add to that he is lazy. and chilwell is not up to 1st grade standard in defense.

Amartey is injured so who would you want to put as RB? The tea lady?

 

You didn't see that much of PL games then. Granted he was shit yesterday, he had a great game against WBA and perfectly deserved a start yesterday.

 

Thank fck you're not the manager. Fuchs legs are gone and he isn't a starter anymore. Puel invests in the youth and Chilwell can only learn if he plays.

 

 

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Schmeichel - 5 - would have been a 7, but for ......

Simpson - 6 - tried hard, but his contribution is hit and miss now (especially with those crosses !)

Morgan - 7 - he IS past it, but he always puts in a shift

Maguire - 8 - justified his place as an England first choice centre back - even if he does have rushes of blood to the head !

Chilwell - 5 - not only did he look out of his depth in defence (which he always does), he looked out of his depth as an attacking wing back yesterday

Mahrez - 7 - CLASS, if only his work rate matched his ability, but you (WE !) can't have everything.  He did at least look far more interested than Hazard !

Ndidi - 7 - everywhere in midfield and in front of the defence, but (as usual) his attacking skills are only shown when he has a hoof at goal and he does need to learn how to tackle cleanly.  I'm sure Klopp will improve the former ability - though not the latter !

Iborra - 7 - like Ndidi, but at a slower pace !

Albrighton - 8 (MotM) - I would have given him a 9, if he played the whole game like he did in the second half

Iheanacho - 4 - I thought he deserved a chance after his performance as a sub against West Brom.  He didn't justify my (or more importantly, Puel's) faith.  It confirms the view that he WAS a waste of money.

Vardy - 6 - quiet for Jamie; he even pulled out a few challenges with defenders and races with Caballero.  Still our only threat though.

 

Okazaki - 6 - worked hard in trying to get the ball (but generally, unsuccessfully) and a very subdued Shinji overall.  Is he properly fit ?

Silva - 7 - showed a few flashes of what we saw when we bought him.  Good passing and some desire to battle.  If he could sustain it in a full game, he could still justify his price

Diabate - 7 - he COULD be a new Mahrez (or even a better one !).  He genuinely showed ability, pace, and (unlike Riyad) some passion.  I doubt he can sustain it for 90 minutes though - yet !

 

Puel - 6 - generally good selections.  He had to try Nacho - but it didn't work.  I think Fuchs still offers more than Chilwell.  The Subs should have been sooner - though he did make the right choices.

 

Chelsea - 6 - very average.  They were there for the taking yesterday, but we didn't try hard enough, especially in the first half.    

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