The VAR thread

[Tielemans63]

1 minute ago, Buzzard said:

It wasn't a red. Come off it.

It really was. Nowhere near the ball, studs up, right on the knee. 

[FrankieADZ]

20 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

It wasn't a red. Come off it.

please explain why then?

 

come on, weve had a number of them now against us this season where players should have been sent off but nothing, its a farce

[Super_horns]

Liverpool asking a few questions of the officials after Saturday.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65677560

Wonder if they asked why Jota wasn’t sent off the other week v Spurs before scoring the winner ?

 

Will be even more frustrating for them now after Newcastle dropped points tonight .

Edited 22 May 2023 by Super_horns

[FrankieADZ]

even with that Liverpool Spurs game, I thought Skipp was lucky to still be on the pitch too for his foul on Diaz

[CosbehFox]

Three red card challenges on us this season unpunished. The reaction of all three offenders suggested they thought there was a good chance they were going to be sent off. 

Edited 22 May 2023 by CosbehFox

[nick6666]

Var doesnt work because you have to have capable officials in the first place to make the correct calls on video playback.. It's solved nothing it ruins the flow of games and I for one wouldn't be against it being scrapped

[nick6666]

I hate having to wait to celebrate a goal ... It ruins the moment

[Manwell Pablo]

There isn’t enough force in it to be a red.

 

Well, I’ll put it this way, there’s nowhere near enough force for it to be over ruled by VAR if it’s not given on the field so VAR certainly isn’t to blame.
 

Gone for the ball ended up going in studs up very high, one of those that could of gone either way but for me, as everyone favourite outspoken Mancunian said, he’s got it right, just. But VAR isn’t going to overrule that no matter what card gets pulled out.

 

 

[iancognito]

I'm tempted to say it was a red but if one of our players was sent off for that I'd have been fuming. I also think it's one of those where if someone like Xhaka, Shelvey or Casemiro does it, it's probably red.

 

That said Bruno has spent the season leaving a mark on players. For all his talent he's a dirty little fecker too.

[The Doctor]

7 hours ago, Buzzard said:

It wasn't a red. Come off it.

eh? it was over the ball, studs into his knee. the sort of challenge that, if Soumares foot sticks in the ground, is a shattered kneecap and career ender. it's as blatant a red as you'll ever see

[LCFCJohn]

7 hours ago, Super_horns said:

Liverpool asking a few questions of the officials after Saturday.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65677560

Wonder if they asked why Jota wasn’t sent off the other week v Spurs before scoring the winner ?

 

Will be even more frustrating for them now after Newcastle dropped points tonight .

 they are pathetic. It’s like a self fulfilling prophecy. They go into every game looking for something to blame on the officials and surprise surprise, every game they find something!

[Tommy Fresh]

6 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

There isn’t enough force in it to be a red.

 

Well, I’ll put it this way, there’s nowhere near enough force for it to be over ruled by VAR if it’s not given on the field so VAR certainly isn’t to blame.
 

Gone for the ball ended up going in studs up very high, one of those that could of gone either way but for me, as everyone favourite outspoken Mancunian said, he’s got it right, just. But VAR isn’t going to overrule that no matter what card gets pulled out.

 

 

Straight leg, of which he seems to push through on Soumare for longer than he needed to having missed the ball. It's a red, force shouldn't relevant, it's reckless and parts of the follow through seem intentional. 

[FrankieADZ]

think the thing here is, if a Leicester player did that, more than likely we'd be down to 10 men

[Manwell Pablo]

15 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Straight leg, of which he seems to push through on Soumare for longer than he needed to having missed the ball. It's a red, force shouldn't relevant, it's reckless and parts of the follow through seem intentional. 

Force is relevant. 
 

it’s literally in the laws of the game. Which is what officials have to adhere to, and it’s not a red for me. 

 

Arguing about the laws of the game is different to arguing about if they have been implemented correctly or not. Blaming VAR is certainly a waste of time as it’s not what we would define as a clear and obvious error.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Manwell Pablo]

18 hours ago, The Doctor said:

eh? it was over the ball, studs into his knee. the sort of challenge that, if Soumares foot sticks in the ground, is a shattered kneecap and career ender. it's as blatant a red as you'll ever see

He really hasn’t hit him with anywhere the amount of velocity to cause any kind of damage.

 

Never mind “shatter” his knee cap. It really takes some going to shatter someone’s knee cap.

 

Ask Roy Keane he had a pretty good go at it and failed. 

 

 

 

 

[Royston.]

20 hours ago, The Doctor said:

eh? it was over the ball, studs into his knee. the sort of challenge that, if Soumares foot sticks in the ground, is a shattered kneecap and career ender. it's as blatant a red as you'll ever see

We never get any luck

[Royston.]

20 hours ago, The Doctor said:

eh? it was over the ball, studs into his knee. the sort of challenge that, if Soumares foot sticks in the ground, is a shattered kneecap and career ender. it's as blatant a red as you'll ever see

We never get any luck

[Royston.]

20 hours ago, The Doctor said:

eh? it was over the ball, studs into his knee. the sort of challenge that, if Soumares foot sticks in the ground, is a shattered kneecap and career ender. it's as blatant a red as you'll ever see

We never get any luck

[Royston.]

20 hours ago, The Doctor said:

eh? it was over the ball, studs into his knee. the sort of challenge that, if Soumares foot sticks in the ground, is a shattered kneecap and career ender. it's as blatant a red as you'll ever see

We never get any luck

[Tommy Fresh]

7 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Force is relevant. 
 

it’s literally in the laws of the game. Which is what officials have to adhere to, and it’s not a red for me. 

 

Arguing about the laws of the game is different to arguing about if they have been implemented correctly or not. Blaming VAR is certainly a waste of time as it’s not what we would define as a clear and obvious error.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I said force shouldn't be relevant, not that it isn't. Amazed you don't think that's a red

[weller54]

5 hours ago, Royston. said:

We never get any luck

Third time lucky 😂

[Manwell Pablo]

On 23/05/2023 at 08:17, Tommy Fresh said:

Straight leg, of which he seems to push through on Soumare for longer than he needed to having missed the ball. It's a red, force shouldn't relevant, it's reckless and parts of the follow through seem intentional. 

Well it is relevant and something that needs to be taken into account by all officials concerned so take it up with the people who write the rules 😂 

 

 

[Manwell Pablo]

7 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

I said force shouldn't be relevant, not that it isn't. Amazed you don't think that's a red

Oh it’s a tight one, far too high and nowhere near the ball. 
 

My opinion is irrelevant at the end of the day, I’m merely posting as this is the VAR thread and we no doubt have people blaming VAR for not over turning it I’m just saying it’s not a decision VAR is ever going to over turn as it’s not clear and obvious.

Edited 24 May 2023 by Manwell Pablo

[Tommy Fresh]

4 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Oh it’s a tight one, far too high and nowhere near the ball. 
 

My opinion is irrelevant at the end of the day, I’m merely posting as this is the VAR thread and we no doubt have people blaming VAR for not over turning it I’m just saying it’s not a decision VAR is ever going to over turn as it’s not clear and obvious.

I think you're confusing violent conduct with serious foul play though, serious foul play doesn't require excessive force according to the FA. 

SERIOUS FOUL PLAY:
A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
 

Edited 24 May 2023 by Tommy Fresh

[Manwell Pablo]

Just now, Tommy Fresh said:

I think you're confusing violent conduct with serious foul play though, serious foul play doesn't require excessive force according to the FA. 

SERIOUS FOUL PLAY:
A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
 

Nah violent conduct is head butting punching etc.

 

I mark level four referrers mate I know the difference. The tackle certainly doesn’t use excessive force or brutality. Does it endanger Soumare, highly debatable as there’s a good argument he’s not hit him hard enough to do any damage.