Guest An Sionnach Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 I think this issue is a collective thing and not about individuals. We have two proven experienced strikers including one of the best in the business. Perez has been slow in adapting which has left most of the responsibility on the great man. However as tough as he is, he is human and sooner or later we are going to have to manage without him. Our young strikers Gray, Iheanacho,Barnes are yet to show the ruthlessness you need and Hirst, Eppiah and Muskwe are unproven at the top level.I think we need a veteran striker with a proven record. He will not be an impediment to the young players progress and could help them find the missing goalscoring knack that they need.
Countryfox Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 There are a few that would fit the bill in the championship and also in prem teams in the bottom part of the table ... surely we can nick one in January who would jump at the chance of coming here ... hopefully he would hit the ground running and give us a boost right now. I know we normally do things differently but this is a unique season.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 Just now, Countryfox said: There are a few that would fit the bill in the championship and also in prem teams in the bottom part of the table ... surely we can nick one in January who would jump at the chance of coming here ... hopefully he would hit the ground running and give us a boost right now. I know we normally do things differently but this is a unique season. The one I am thinking of is Deeney , would Pearson let him go though is a problem as he makes Watford a better team. His intelligence and strength could be very useful to us in the short term and his advice to the young players would help them I'm sure.
Countryfox Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 Hmmmmm ... not really sure about that one .... think we could do better.
StanSP Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 Gray and Barnes haven't really been played as strikers. More wingers/inside forwards. The point stands though that we need more goals across the team (I think it's been better this season with goals from midfield). I'd sy Rodgers isn't blind to this fact either and I believe, just before the Saints 9-0 game, that he said something in the media about Perez/wingers needing to score more and they delivered for that game and a few after that. The reliance on Vardy has always been spoken about though as he hit 30 but this season shows he's still up to it and potentially a couple more seasons. We've needed to sign a supporting striker for a while. I'd say though that signing another veteran probably isn't the best way to go as we'd just end up needing to replace him at the same time as Vardy. Finding another Vardy is probably out of the question as in we're unlikely to find someone from lower-leagues that will be as explosive and dynamic, at this level, as he is. We have to be quite shrewd and sensible in finding someone who can step up to the plate - Iheanacho's recent form gives some faint hope he can fill the boots to some extent but we'd still need support for him if he becomes the only proper striker at the club. I'd rather not rely on Perez or Gray as strikers. Signing a top-level striker may come at a premium but if we make Europe, signing a striker has to be number one priority in the summer.
st albans fox Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 Thinking back to jan16 and we all thought that without another striker, we couldn’t possibly see it though .......
jayfox26 Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 8 hours ago, An Sionnach said: The one I am thinking of is Deeney , would Pearson let him go though is a problem as he makes Watford a better team. His intelligence and strength could be very useful to us in the short term and his advice to the young players would help them I'm sure. Nah I wouldn't want Deeney. His goalscoring record is appalling. Always seems like a bit of a **** as well but then again, opposition fans say that about Vardy. Watford wouldn't let Deeney go cheap and I honestly don't think he'd improve us. We either get players that are an upgrade on what we have or don't bother. We already have enough average players.
foxfanazer Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 That Maupay guy would've been a decent signing imo
HighPeakFox Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: That Maupay guy would've been a decent signing imo He wouldn't improve Wolves though...
Guest An Sionnach Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 5 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: Nah I wouldn't want Deeney. His goalscoring record is appalling. Always seems like a bit of a **** as well but then again, opposition fans say that about Vardy. Watford wouldn't let Deeney go cheap and I honestly don't think he'd improve us. We either get players that are an upgrade on what we have or don't bother. We already have enough average players. I was thinking more of a player who can help our young strikers. We are not in a position to pay huge amounts of money for a 20 goal a season player. Vardy is a one off, he can't teach his instinctive genius to our young strikers but Deeney is an old school striker and his knowledge might be what they need.
worthosoriginals Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 8 hours ago, An Sionnach said: The one I am thinking of is Deeney , would Pearson let him go though is a problem as he makes Watford a better team. His intelligence and strength could be very useful to us in the short term and his advice to the young players would help them I'm sure. Deeney? Zero goals this season, sign him up.
jayfox26 Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 24 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: I was thinking more of a player who can help our young strikers. We are not in a position to pay huge amounts of money for a 20 goal a season player. Vardy is a one off, he can't teach his instinctive genius to our young strikers but Deeney is an old school striker and his knowledge might be what they need. I'm not sure Deeney could teach our strikers anything that Vardy couldn't teach them. The youngsters out of the academy would be better suited getting loaned out before we chuck them in our 1st team. We have Vardy and Kelechi but another decent young striker wouldn't be a bad option. Just difficult to develop them when they don't get much game time as Vardy will play most games and we wont play 2 up top very often. Ideally a striker that can also play on the wing is what we need.
foxfanazer Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 30 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: He wouldn't improve Wolves though... Not many would
Guest An Sionnach Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 30 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said: Deeney? Zero goals this season, sign him up. Only just comeback from injury in fact.Watford will improve now I'm sure.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 1 hour ago, jayfox26 said: Nah I wouldn't want Deeney. His goalscoring record is appalling. Always seems like a bit of a **** as well but then again, opposition fans say that about Vardy. Got to know him a bit through my job and I would say quite the opposite. Should've signed him 2-3 years back. 32 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said: Deeney? Zero goals this season, sign him up. Been out injured for most of it.
ALC Fox Posted 15 December 2019 Posted 15 December 2019 I think Vardy's successor needs to be at the club before Vardy starts his decline, a bit like how Man City are currently managing Jesus and Aguero. Either that or we spend the big bucks on a man in his absolute prime. Bringing in a veteran would be a completely different dynamic and would only really be a 6-12 month solution, I think. Not everyone is as superhuman as Vards.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 22 December 2019 Posted 22 December 2019 I watched Liverpool yesterday and couldn't help noticing how Origi's strength and hold up play gives Klopp another option. We definitely lack that and none of our squad players have that quality. We could benefit from a big, strong forward even he is a veteran and only lasts a couple of seasons.
deep blue Posted 22 December 2019 Posted 22 December 2019 5 hours ago, An Sionnach said: I watched Liverpool yesterday and couldn't help noticing how Origi's strength and hold up play gives Klopp another option. We definitely lack that and none of our squad players have that quality. We could benefit from a big, strong forward even he is a veteran and only lasts a couple of seasons. Go back a few years and Sunderland scored lots of goals from Niall Quinn nodding on for Philips to burst through. It seems to me that if we had a similar player like Quinn to bring on then Vardy's pace to benefit from nod-ons could result in a lot of goals. In a match like yesterday, when we were getting into so much trouble trying to work the ball out of defence, an option for the quick clearance which could also present a possibility of a goal would be an excellent weapon to have at our disposal. Just a thought.
Nicolo Barella Posted 22 December 2019 Posted 22 December 2019 7 hours ago, An Sionnach said: I watched Liverpool yesterday and couldn't help noticing how Origi's strength and hold up play gives Klopp another option. We definitely lack that and none of our squad players have that quality. We could benefit from a big, strong forward even he is a veteran and only lasts a couple of seasons. Liverpool only have options like Origi on the bench because they're the biggest club in England at this moment in time. Obviously our squad is relatively threadbare but even having three starting level strikers (Vardy, Nacho, Perez), is a lot. If we get CL, then maybe we can talk.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 22 December 2019 Posted 22 December 2019 11 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said: Liverpool only have options like Origi on the bench because they're the biggest club in England at this moment in time. Obviously our squad is relatively threadbare but even having three starting level strikers (Vardy, Nacho, Perez), is a lot. If we get CL, then maybe we can talk. No we can't do much about it right now, and because we have Vardy and excellent back up from Maddison, it hasn't been a problem. However Perez may be Brendan's signature signing but its not working and he has to face up to that. I think Iheanacho will have to be brought in to play Perez's role. He is a stronger player and at long last he might just start scoring consistently.
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