Referees lacking conviction

[Craig]

1 hour ago, martyn said:

Don't think the ref was too bad today overall.

 

Generally however, there needs to be a massive rethink about how to deal with time wasting. Either through actually having some balls to book a player early in the game (and not wait until the 90th minute) or by actually playing the amount of time lost to it. 6 minutes today was a joke 

 

I don't even blame Burnley. Rules are there to be stretched, I just wish there was a way to stop it as it makes the game far less of a spectacle

 

I genuinely don't think they understand time wasting.

 

Last weekend was a prime example - booked a player for time wasting in stoppage time, but played no extra on top 

[phoneticerror]

9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It was a lot tighter than that …..

You’re right, I’ve just watched the highlights and at the point of pass it was probably about 30-40cm offside. By the time he received it and took the shot he was massively forward, and that was what I remembered from being in the stands.

[st albans fox]

7 minutes ago, Craig said:

I genuinely don't think they understand time wasting.

 

Last weekend was a prime example - booked a player for time wasting in stoppage time, but played no extra on top 

I don’t think they’re really bothered.  Just want the game finished. 
 

at one point in the second half he took ages to book their player which took away our momentum ……….just needed to wave his card and get on with the game 

 

cornet coming back onto the pitch to get treatment should, have got a yellow immediately.  

 

Burnley pushed the time wasting envelope big time but they were clever about it ….. never quite stretched it too far on any single goal kick, free kick or throw ……probably took a good six to eight minutes extra out of the game. 

[Dorkingfox]

Did anyone see the Villa goal v Manure, how can that goal stand and our two against Brighton be disallowed, unreal, some poor officials in the prem.

 

[leicesterseddon]

The standard is poor and there are too many weak referees that get bullied.
 

VAR lacks independence because they all know each other. 
 

There is a base level of tolerance for diving/timewasting/shirt-pulling, etc that has been left unchecked for years and is now growing again and spoiling games. 
 

What is needed is a much tougher line on all of the above, with yellow and if necessary red cards.
 

It would be chaos for a few weeks, but players and managers would get the picture eventually and the game that emerged the other side would be a better one. 

[iancognito]

5 hours ago, Matt said:

Not seen much critcism levelled at officials for a while, amazing how we play crap and there are a few debates on officiating. Take a look closer to home first people.

No matter how we're playing the standard of refereeing has been diabolical. Take out our performances and no-one can deny we've had at least 3 shockers already.

[Dan]

We're soft as shit with refs as well. After that absolute scandal last week we've just allowed another ref to come here and take the piss out of us.

[FrankieADZ]

the standards of officials etc has been shocking this season, yesterday, last week at brighton, the UEL game, 

no bias at all buy bloody hell theyve been honking so far, and yesterday the officials didnt even have a word at the burnley players for time wasting at all of 17mins

 

some account ability for their performances and decisions would be nice, but it dont feel like it

[Guest worth_the_wait]

The ref was just about doing ok, but it was the carry-on with the injured Burnley player that showed he lost his bottle.

 

The Burnley player kicked the ball out, walked off the pitch, walked back onto the pitch and sat down a couple of yards inside the line.

 

It looked like the ref was going to make him go off the pitch ,,, I was willing him to make him.    He stood his ground for a few seconds anyway ... but then he just lost his nerve, and let the player stay on the pitch.

 

ok, he booked him for his troubles.   But you could see he had lost his nerve, and didn't dare carry it through.

[Bert]

14 hours ago, Matt said:

Not seen much critcism levelled at officials for a while, amazing how we play crap and there are a few debates on officiating. Take a look closer to home first people.

It’s not a crime for people to criticise officials you know…. 

[Le Renard]

We all don't want to go back to last season's VAR interference and the game being stopped for too long and too often.  The games are better spectacle this season, but at the detriment to the rules of the game, too many tackles going unpunished and ref's allowing the game to flow, and not punishing certain cynical fouls.....like Rudiger yesterday against Citeh, he should have been sent off twice!  Against Burnley there was a foul on Castagne in the box and it was a 100% pen, VAR should have flagged that up toute de suite, but it seems to be the blind leading the blind at the moment.  VAR is only as good as the people who use it, and they are boardering on the incompetent, it seems they looked at the euros and thought.....we'll do that!  This has been the problem the refs are following and copying and not inovating. 

There was a time when us fans from the UK use to overly proud of the officiating and we couldn't trust foreign refs, but now we look at our refs and think, overweight, too old and too inconsistant.  I watch some Bundesliga now and again, and yes they get some decisions wrong, but the refereeing (imo)standard is higher....... they don't have a John Moss running in quicksand!

 

[Corky]

2 hours ago, worth_the_wait said:

The ref was just about doing ok, but it was the carry-on with the injured Burnley player that showed he lost his bottle.

 

The Burnley player kicked the ball out, walked off the pitch, walked back onto the pitch and sat down a couple of yards inside the line.

 

It looked like the ref was going to make him go off the pitch ,,, I was willing him to make him.    He stood his ground for a few seconds anyway ... but then he just lost his nerve, and let the player stay on the pitch.

 

ok, he booked him for his troubles.   But you could see he had lost his nerve, and didn't dare carry it through.

It was ridiculous. They had a sub ready to come on- he had no need to come back on to the pitch. The sub could've been made and he would've had treatment on the perimeter track and everyone gets on with the game. Glad he was booked.

[dsr-burnley]

5 hours ago, Corky said:

It was ridiculous. They had a sub ready to come on- he had no need to come back on to the pitch. The sub could've been made and he would've had treatment on the perimeter track and everyone gets on with the game. Glad he was booked.

Burnley didn't have a sub ready to come on.  He went off holding his hamstring, sat down, stood up again, and hobbled back on as Leicester were taking the throw-in.  He sat down and received treatment after the ball went out of play again.  The sub wasn't ready in the 10 seconds or so it took him to get back onto the field.

 

The ref showed no sign of booking him even then, until Schmeichel came over and told him in no uncertain terms that he had to.  Which is certainly one of the incidents to bear in mind in (correctly, I dare say) believing the ref to be weak.

[Fox1970]

Another point showing the inherent weakness of the ref, was that he seemed to intially have no intention of getting Pope to hurry things up; it was only when he could hear the discontent from the supporters building that he started doing those stupid "hurry up" arm gestures.  Still, he should have booked Pope early to stop his serial time-wasting. 

[Dan]

It's possible for both Leicester and the officials to be shit. This has happened in our last two games.

[FLAN]

8 hours ago, worth_the_wait said:

The ref was just about doing ok, but it was the carry-on with the injured Burnley player that showed he lost his bottle.

 

The Burnley player kicked the ball out, walked off the pitch, walked back onto the pitch and sat down a couple of yards inside the line.

 

It looked like the ref was going to make him go off the pitch ,,, I was willing him to make him.    He stood his ground for a few seconds anyway ... but then he just lost his nerve, and let the player stay on the pitch.

 

ok, he booked him for his troubles.   But you could see he had lost his nerve, and didn't dare carry it through.

This totally undermined what little credibility he had on the pitch. He made himself look really stupid there