Referees lacking conviction

[majaco]

Today, when Westwood earned his second yellow card taking out Barnes, the ref pretended there hadn't been a foul .

 

When he played advantage following a yellow card offence o. Maddison and Maddison was taken out by a second yellow card offence, he only gave one yellow.

 

When Barnes got him back, it was a possible red card offence.

 

Last week, the ref didn't look at the screen.   

[foxes_rule1978]

The refs are just garbage, it is the same for everyone though 

[UHDrive]

They are being told to let the play go. Too many players falling over.

 

The drawback is if something definitive has been overlooked and the opposition score from via a second phase of play.

[Tielemans63]

Refs lacking refereeing skills is more of an issue

[Matt]

Not seen much critcism levelled at officials for a while, amazing how we play crap and there are a few debates on officiating. Take a look closer to home first people.

[Dahnsouff]

As a great man once said “You do it yourself, that’s what really hurts”. Far to naive at times.  

[Unabomber]

3 minutes ago, Matt said:

Not seen much critcism levelled at officials for a while, amazing how we play crap and there are a few debates on officiating. Take a look closer to home first people.

Were you there today? The ref was horrific regardless of our inability to beat that pumped up Sunday league prem team. 

[Matt]

4 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Were you there today? The ref was horrific regardless of our inability to beat that pumped up Sunday league prem team. 

I was, unfortunately. He was, as was last week but they're not the reason we didn't win last week or this. Coincidence we'd rather blame officials than our own inabilities and poor, turgid performances?

 

Edited 25 September 2021 by Matt

[Jimmy]

bigger question why does it seem like every time we play a team from the North West the ref is from there too?

[floz]

If the 2 goals were disallowed last week how was the Villa goal allowed to stand today. The Villa player was in an offside position wrestling and then standing in front of De Gea. The standard and consistency of refs in the PL is dire. 

Edited 25 September 2021 by floz

[Unabomber]

4 minutes ago, Matt said:

I was, unfortunately. He was, as was last week but they're not the reason we didn't win last week or this. Coincidence we'd rather blame officials than our own inabilities and poor, turgid performances?

 

Nah I’m not blaming the ref just pointing out how bad they were. If we had won 3-2 the point would still stand 

[Osavo]

4 minutes ago, Matt said:

I was, unfortunately. He was, as was last week but they're not the reason we didn't win last week or this. Coincidence we'd rather blame officials than our own inabilities and poor, turgid performances?

 

I don't think anyone is placing the blame for that result entirely on the ref are they? There is plenty of criticism levelled on here at our own players and management. It's still relevant to point out that the ref failed miserably to control the game today, allowing Burnley to persistently foul and time waste with no consequence. 

[Matt]

4 minutes ago, Osavo said:

I don't think anyone is placing the blame for that result entirely on the ref are they? There is plenty of criticism levelled on here at our own players and management. It's still relevant to point out that the ref failed miserably to control the game today, allowing Burnley to persistently foul and time waste with no consequence. 

Two threads and more than several comments in other threads I’d beg to differ.

 

Time wasting? People seem to lap our time wasting up aka sideways and backwards football.

[Osavo]

12 minutes ago, Matt said:

Two threads and more than several comments in other threads I’d beg to differ.

 

Time wasting? People seem to lap our time wasting up aka sideways and backwards football.

Not gonna disagree with this  Vestergaard and Soyuncu must be top of all the passing metrics in the league atm.

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

I was, unfortunately. He was, as was last week but they're not the reason we didn't win last week or this. Coincidence we'd rather blame officials than our own inabilities and poor, turgid performances?

 

You could argue they were the reason we didn't win last week. The penalty and the 2nd offside disallowed goal were honking decisions and had a huge bearing on the result. But agreed, our first half performances today and last week were just not good enough. 

[Cincinnati Fox]

It evens its self up. They are all shite.

no surprise with Mike Riley in charge. It was painful watching a game with him as ref.

[st albans fox]

I thought he was ok today 

 

for him that was a good showing - I was expecting much worse ….

[martyn]

Don't think the ref was too bad today overall.

 

Generally however, there needs to be a massive rethink about how to deal with time wasting. Either through actually having some balls to book a player early in the game (and not wait until the 90th minute) or by actually playing the amount of time lost to it. 6 minutes today was a joke 

 

I don't even blame Burnley. Rules are there to be stretched, I just wish there was a way to stop it as it makes the game far less of a spectacle

 

[Super_horns]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

Two threads and more than several comments in other threads I’d beg to differ.

 

Time wasting? People seem to lap our time wasting up aka sideways and backwards football.

I guess we all time waste .

But hate it when against us.

 

Having just seen the goal - not many Man U players weren’t complaining at the time tbf.

[Wymsey]

It's equally an issue at the top of the hierarchy, alongside who they recruit for such high-pressured roles.

[phoneticerror]

Completely agree.

 

Ref last week let the linesman make the call instead of using his own brain objectively. Today, the linesman didn’t even raise the flag for the offside goal, and Burnley were offside by over a metre by the looks of it! VAR saved the f-ing day today.

Edited 25 September 2021 by phoneticerror

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

I don’t get all this nonsense about trends in refereeing - like that they’re told to focus on this in x season. Like again today I saw VAR look at a decision because a player was near the goalkeeper (like last weekend).
 

If you’re a referee, surely all this messing around clouds and messes with your judgement. For any referees reading - just referee the football match in a fair way, and stop being a twat.

[Dan]

Another total disgrace of a refereeing performance. Are they told to not clamp down on timewasting or what? It wasn't even slightly discrete.

[dsr-burnley]

Solution to time wasting: give the decision the other way.  If Burnley waste time at a throw-in, give the throw-in to Leicester.  (Or vice versa of course.)  If it's a goal kick, give a corner.  If it's a free kick, give it the other way.  It would stop the most obvious examples instantly, and even the subtler efforts could be put in check by a sort of "team warning" if the ref feels they are getting too near the line.  (Rugby League even has a referee's signal, a big cricle like cricket's power play, so the crowd can tell that one team is on a warning and there will be no tolerance for that team's time wasting.)

[st albans fox]

53 minutes ago, phoneticerror said:

Completely agree.

 

Ref last week let the linesman make the call instead of using his own brain objectively. Today, the linesman didn’t even raise the flag for the offside goal, and Burnley were offside by over a metre by the looks of it! VAR saved the f-ing day today.

It was a lot tighter than that …..