Forest Away

[The Year Of The Fox]

Just now, Raj said:

Ca ching! Passed it to you, back of the net!

Assist bonus incoming 

[Osavo]

41 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I am afraid you do have to “lie back” and accept their decisions as they are well within their rights to do as they please when it comes to selling tickets, or anything else commercially or within the framework of the law. Is it fair that a loyal punter of Tesco’s misses out on reduced food item ahead of someone who just walked into the shop for the first time and picked said yellow ticket item off the shelf, no. 
 

You are comparing tickets for an away match with throwing a brick through my window. I think if you don’t understand the difference between the two then there is no hope. Jeez 

Obviously I was exaggerating to make a point.

 

I actually agree with you re box holders - they deserve perks and away tickets should be one of them if they wish, they put enough money in. What I don't agree with is the lack of transparency on the club's part and the handing out of 2 tickets each to staff for the highest demand fixture of the season. 

 

@KrefelderFox666 got it spot on. Allocate certain amounts to certain groups, be clear about what you're doing and communicate that when stating the allocation. Then everyone knows where they stand. 

[grobyfox1990]

Just sent this email to: [email protected]

 

If you are interested in contacting any other LCFC staff members who are important, go here and google to find their details: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04593477/officers

 

I'd be interested in any feedback/anything i've missed on the below?

 

As you can tell, it's been one of those days at work stuck on non-value add zoom meetings for hours!!

 

Dear Susan

Hope you are well and enjoying the new year, I am writing as a match-going fan of the club.

As I am sure you are aware, the upcoming away FA Cup fixture against Notts Forest has stoked plenty of interest amongst fans! Tickets appear to be flying through sales, and the process does not appear transparent.

Currently, tickets are sold to those with the most priority points on a sliding scale, with points being banded, based on rewarding the most loyal fans, I am sure all will agree that loyalty should be duly rewarded. However this process appears to be mired in opacity.

Tickets for stellar fixtures such as Notts Forest appear to sell much quicker than the usual ‘run-of-the mill’ matches, why is this? I fully understand as a commercial organisation you must offer tickets to sponsors, commercial and strategic partners, broadcasters, executives and other investors. Likewise, staff, players and box holders at the club should expect tickets as a perk. But it would be useful to know the number of such tickets that you must offer to ‘third parties’ (sorry for the crude term) – to that end I propose a number of easy initiatives to boost transparency:

• Make clear the number of tickets made available to third parties for each away fixture;

• Explain attempts and actions to mitigate the transfer of these tickets from third parties to others, and the severe repercussions for engaging in this illegal behaviour;

• Make clear how many fans are in each priority band;
  • E.g - 500 fans at 510+ points, 500 fans at 500+ points etc…

  • This will aid fans in knowing how many tickets are expected to sell before their release date, i.e. where they are in the queue.

I am sure you will agree that this is a very easy starting point to boost transparency with your loyal fans, as all the data will be available to you. The goodwill generated will be commensurate to the effort in publishing. I also note multiple Premier League clubs as well as the national team offer this to their fans.

I am happy to engage further on this topic and/or clarify my points if needed.

 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

A fact or very likely? Which one. 
 

What is the clubs policy on away tickets for box holders? You seem to know the ins and outs.
 

Or is it just hear say and whinge whinge which is all our fan base seems to do these days. It’s a merry go round of ticket allocations, tifo’s, safe standing, results, Brendan, injuries etc etc. pick your day and someone will be wittering about something 

I've offered a reasonable, sensible option if the club want to reward box holders. There's been a poster who in the last week reply to me on here that he got tickets for the European games via a box holder. The box holders get a little form sent out to them, they fill it out and the club lets them know how many they've got dependent on the demand. 

 

I'll whinge and whinge because I passionately love the club and it's one of my favourite things in the entire world. It matters to me. Ironically despite our recent success there's some pretty big barriers which stop us being the best in the country or Europe but that doesn't stop us being the best in other areas such as ticketing, atmosphere etc. I care about our fans and their support; particularly at the pockets who feel themselves alienated at times. I care about supporters getting what they deserve. If people didn't care back in 2002, we'd have been totally fcuked when the buckets came out. There's always a chance something like that might happen again as well. So I'll happily whinge. 

 

For your info, I personally don't have too much of a problem with Brendan, results or injuries. Just one of those seasons. Actually think we've been playing well for a long spell (when we do play) 

[Guest David Oldfields Gate]

I wonder if the FA have a view (doubt it) on clubs playing silly buggars with tickets. It is afterall a supporter allocation, not employee allocation. 

For what it's worth I have no problem with club staff getting all manner of perks including home tickets but if they are passing off hundreds of away tickets for a local derby, the thing that us peasants live for, I do take umbridge at that.

Not that my umbridge means anything. 

 

[The_77]

1 hour ago, goody2028 said:

Surely it doesn’t matter is it’s 1,500 or 10. The principle is still the same they are reserving tickets just based on people working at the club and not people who spend their hard earned money watching the team away from home

Come on. This is standard at so many clubs. A majority of staff are underpaid LCFC fans and a good number can’t watch home games because they’re working. And the staff often have to pay for away tickets. 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

24 minutes ago, The_77 said:

Come on. This is standard at so many clubs. A majority of staff are underpaid LCFC fans and a good number can’t watch home games because they’re working. And the staff often have to pay for away tickets. 

Don't come on here with your common sense.

[The_77]

15 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Don't come on here with your common sense.

Send Filbert Fox to the back of the line!

[Guest Lako42]

1 hour ago, The_77 said:

Come on. This is standard at so many clubs. A majority of staff are underpaid LCFC fans and a good number can’t watch home games because they’re working. And the staff often have to pay for away tickets. 

That is the choice of the individual. 

 

I find it absurd that people think its okay for away tickets to see a team should go to anyone other than the supporters who have earnt them. 

 

My company doesn't give me first dibs because I work there and I wouldn't expect it. 

[Guest Lako42]

37 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Don't come on here with your common sense.

It isnt common sense, it's  just towing the line. 

[Hollism]

I’m genuinely struggling to come up with an answer, but for all those complaining about lack of transparency, would you really be any less pissed off if the club announce that 1,200 were going to a special allocation of fans (employees and box holders), with 2,800 going on sale via the away priority system?

 

I don’t see how that would calm anyone.

 

These 20 or so VIPs will be putting in six figures each to the business* (*🤢), so obviously it’s in everyone’s interest to keep them happy… us fans included.
 

Should there be an agreement for all PL clubs to have some corporate seats or boxes reserved for away-supporting VIPS?

 

[The_77]

14 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

That is the choice of the individual. 

 

I find it absurd that people think its okay for away tickets to see a team should go to anyone other than the supporters who have earnt them. 

 

My company doesn't give me first dibs because I work there and I wouldn't expect it. 

Every employer should be just like yours. 

[Guest Lako42]

1 hour ago, The_77 said:

Every employer should be just like yours. 

When a product you make has demand that severely outstrips supply you don't give 1st dibs to anyone other than loyal and regular business. 

 

It's utterly ridiculous 

[Guest Lako42]

1 hour ago, Hollism said:

I’m genuinely struggling to come up with an answer, but for all those complaining about lack of transparency, would you really be any less pissed off if the club announce that 1,200 were going to a special allocation of fans (employees and box holders), with 2,800 going on sale via the away priority system?

 

I don’t see how that would calm anyone.

 

These 20 or so VIPs will be putting in six figures each to the business* (*🤢), so obviously it’s in everyone’s interest to keep them happy… us fans included.
 

Should there be an agreement for all PL clubs to have some corporate seats or boxes reserved for away-supporting VIPS?

 

People aren't really talking about box holders here. 

 

Although they should receive them in a structured and fair way. 

 

 

Guess who this club and any other would rely on if we found ourselves in L1 again? 

[The_77]

1 hour ago, Lako42 said:

When a product you make has demand that severely outstrips supply you don't give 1st dibs to anyone other than loyal and regular business. 

 

It's utterly ridiculous 

It’s not. Every club in the world does this.
 

But you’re right, January signings shouldn’t get tickets because they missed the membership deadline. 

 

And how dare Top keep an empty seat next to him???

 

Get real. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

21 minutes ago, The_77 said:

It’s not. Every club in the world does this.
 

But you’re right, January signings shouldn’t get tickets because they missed the membership deadline. 

 

And how dare Top keep an empty seat next to him???

 

Get real. 

I don't mind corporates getting a few seats, nor those in the ticket office (1 each or for the lesser games), but when you're literally giving about 30% of a total allocation out before it's even gone on sale, that isn't right. And I also don't think it happens at every club in the world on this scale. We go mad when the FA gives out 33% of tickets to corporates for games at Wembley (FA Cup Semi/Final), so rightfully we're doing the same now when it's our own club.

[The_77]

5 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

I don't mind corporates getting a few seats, nor those in the ticket office (1 each or for the lesser games), but when you're literally giving about 30% of a total allocation out before it's even gone on sale, that isn't right. And I also don't think it happens at every club in the world on this scale. We go mad when the FA gives out 33% of tickets to corporates for games at Wembley (FA Cup Semi/Final), so rightfully we're doing the same now when it's our own club.

Do we really know that 1500 tickets were hoarded? Obviously that’s a disgusting percentage of tickets and inexcusable. 
 

My posts were more in reference to those who think no amount of staff should get any kind of priority access.  

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

5 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I've offered a reasonable, sensible option if the club want to reward box holders. There's been a poster who in the last week reply to me on here that he got tickets for the European games via a box holder. The box holders get a little form sent out to them, they fill it out and the club lets them know how many they've got dependent on the demand. 

 

I'll whinge and whinge because I passionately love the club and it's one of my favourite things in the entire world. It matters to me. Ironically despite our recent success there's some pretty big barriers which stop us being the best in the country or Europe but that doesn't stop us being the best in other areas such as ticketing, atmosphere etc. I care about our fans and their support; particularly at the pockets who feel themselves alienated at times. I care about supporters getting what they deserve. If people didn't care back in 2002, we'd have been totally fcuked when the buckets came out. There's always a chance something like that might happen again as well. So I'll happily whinge. 

 

For your info, I personally don't have too much of a problem with Brendan, results or injuries. Just one of those seasons. Actually think we've been playing well for a long spell (when we do play) 

Can box owners not passionately love the club either?

[CosbehFox]

Just now, Chocolate Teapot said:

Can box owners not passionately love the club either?

Haven’t said that and if you read back I’m perfectly fine with box holders getting a dib at an appropriate time. 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

Haven’t said that and if you read back I’m perfectly fine with box holders getting a dib at an appropriate time. 

What's an appropriate time? After you I presume....

[CosbehFox]

3 hours ago, Hollism said:

I’m genuinely struggling to come up with an answer, but for all those complaining about lack of transparency, would you really be any less pissed off if the club announce that 1,200 were going to a special allocation of fans (employees and box holders), with 2,800 going on sale via the away priority system?

 

I don’t see how that would calm anyone.

 

These 20 or so VIPs will be putting in six figures each to the business* (*🤢), so obviously it’s in everyone’s interest to keep them happy… us fans included.
 

Should there be an agreement for all PL clubs to have some corporate seats or boxes reserved for away-supporting VIPS?

 

I think people adjust their expectations accordingly. It’s like Cup Finals etc - when you know it’s reduced, you accept that. Especially when you factor in things like travel etc what need booking upfront. 
 

For example the upcoming Randers game, there’s suggestions it could be 500 or it could be 800 away end. If its that lower amount and I miss out. I take it on the chin.

[CosbehFox]

4 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

What's an appropriate time? After you I presume....

Why not read back?
 

I suggested Box Holders should get something like 60 to 70 priority points per season. Log on exactly like everyone else ticketing website and do it there. 
 

FYI I’m not nowhere near the top priority and if it’s 500 for Randers, the only way I’ll get a ticket is if a significant number don’t want to go 

Edited 19 January 2022 by Cardiff_Fox

[K1FOX]

How many left then for the morning? 

[kingkisnorbo]

I count just over 300.

[Bayfox]

30 minutes ago, K1FOX said:

How many left then for the morning?